Kamala vs the Orange Felon - Presidential Race 2024 - Polls, News, Etc...

[jdubs03]

Kamala is just not pulling ahead enough.

The more it's tied or close, the worse off she really is.

Seems our fates may be sealed.

Too defeatist. The Democrats have a great ground game. There is plenty of time. In actuality her policies share broad support. In the poll aggregator/projections she’s still technically ahead.

But I do understand the pessimism. I am too. I am frustrated how almost half of the people of voting age can buy into pretty much a giant lie (with the multitude of child lies) and the empty promises which themselves are lies.
It’s like they memory holed all the bad things of the Trump administration (ahem 2 impeachments, mishandling Covid, separating parents and children at the border, setting the conditions for overturning Roe… plus more corruption bs), but somehow they remember that prices-gas being lower (particularly with Covid), as if that was/is a credit to him as a manager of the nation. Or it’s that they accept the above bad stuff and chaos and like the misogyny, racism, and dehumanization; just so they can get their little piddly tax cut thinking “oh great Trump’s tax cut gave me a few hundred $ a year for a couple years”, while the real benefactors are the wealthy/rich donors who gets tens of thousands+ $… just like 2017 (another really bad thing, fiscal conservatism my ass). Shit, they probably believe that broad-based tariffs this fool is proposing aren’t actually going to be inflationary. And don’t get me started with Ukraine, or the proposed deportations, this that and the other. It’s fucking crazy.

But I get it. In the end, if he wins, we deserve the outcome. It will have occurred because of the dumb, dumb of the lower middle class in conjunction with the nefarious rich old white guys more or less.

So it's either I'm out of the loop and there's something about him I don't know. Or MAGAs will use anything, but I've seen 4 of them on different posts bring up her dating Montel Williams in the past as if it's some big red flag. As far as I know he never did anything, the 1 thing I remember hearing about him was a rumor that he kept records of all the busty females who were on his show. I guess MAGAs believe pointing out all the men she's had sex with makes her a bad person or something.Trump can rape chicks it's nothing, but Kamala apparently slept her way to the tops in politics.

I will say if that was her goal, sleeping with Montel Williams sure was a terrible choice. Willie Brown? MAYBE, Montel Williams though? LOL

I fail to see how the fact she dated him ages ago is relevant to bring up now.

It’s deflecting, racist, misogynistic, and dumb. They’re bottom of the barrel scoundrels.

 

[manly]

So it's either I'm out of the loop and there's something about him I don't know. Or MAGAs will use anything, but I've seen 4 of them on different posts bring up her dating Montel Williams in the past as if it's some big red flag. As far as I know he never did anything, the 1 thing I remember hearing about him was a rumor that he kept records of all the busty females who were on his show. I guess MAGAs believe pointing out all the men she's had sex with makes her a bad person or something.Trump can rape chicks it's nothing, but Kamala apparently slept her way to the tops in politics.

I will say if that was her goal, sleeping with Montel Williams sure was a terrible choice. Willie Brown? MAYBE, Montel Williams though? LOL

I fail to see how the fact she dated him ages ago is relevant to bring up now.

It's completely irrelevant, but the moron's wife tells us that it's a yuge problem for Kamala Harris. 🤣

Anyway, as referenced earlier in this thread, what happened is some MAGAt altered the old photo of Harris and Montel Williams, putting P. Diddy's head onto the body. Implying Harris once had a sexual relationship with Diddy. It's the type of crap MAGAts will believe, but there's zero reason for us to be propagating it here...

 

[Indus]

It's completely irrelevant, but the moron's wife tells us that it's a yuge problem for Kamala Harris. 🤣

Anyway, as referenced earlier in this thread, what happened is some MAGAt altered the old photo of Harris and Montel Williams, putting P. Diddy's head onto the body. Implying Harris once had a sexual relationship with Diddy. It's the type of crap MAGAts will believe, but there's zero reason for us to be propagating it here...

Unmanly can only type shit online because she's a chicken shit wussy without any balls to show up and say that to my face!

Go suck on some diddy dick and maybe you'll learn how to be a man fucking piece of shit

Personal attack language that goes too far.

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[Indus]

Why do you think Trump is more popular now than in 2016??

https://twitter.com/x/status/1838734146752926052

https://twitter.com/x/status/1838757230763442295

Trump's gunning for young males HARD!

 

[esquared]

What do you expect from OAN?
The dude's a correspondent for that network.

May as well quote the faux news

 

[Indus]

What do you expect from OAN?
The dude's a correspondent for that network.

May as well quote the faux news

Sadly his son Barron is putting him on every podcast that young males listen to. That's basically erasing the debate performance and resetting the narrative because Americans seem to focus on 1 thing and have amnesia about the rest.

It's like that post where some guy said he knows he's a criminal but he wants $2 gas again.. I honestly don't think we've had $2 gas since Bush 1st term in 2001 or so.

Speaking of amnesia you'd think Jan 6 would be a bigger deal but..

September 2024 Swing State Polls: Trump and Harris Locked in Tight Presidential Race - Emerson Polling

Democratic Statewide Candidates Outperforming GOP Candidates New Emerson College Polling/The Hill surveys of likely voters…Full Release & Results

emersoncollegepolling.com

I don't know how Kam fixes this.. except to maybe go after the UNLIKELY voter and bring them on her side.

2018/2020 dems won on healthcare.

2022 was economy and they had a bad cycle made up by abortion.

If 2024 is like 2022 it'll be bad.

 

[Jaskalas]

Why do you think Trump is more popular now than in 2016??

It's not a hard sell to blame Democrats, Biden/Harris for inflation. Despite it being the pandemic. Despite it being global.
Republican propaganda has laid the foundations of this for decades, now they get to reap the harvest of scaring people.
It is a dangerous vulnerability and I have not seen an effective speaker / speech on the campaign that has addressed it.

 

[Indus]

It's not a hard sell to blame Democrats, Biden/Harris for inflation. Despite it being the pandemic. Despite it being global.
Republican propaganda has laid the foundations of this for decades, now they get to reap the harvest of scaring people.
It is a dangerous vulnerability and I have not seen an effective speaker / speech on the campaign that has addressed it.

Yeah me either.. maybe start attacking concepts of a plan of healthcare and make it an issue and beat that drum non stop!

Not just abortion.. healthcare costs!

 

[jdubs03]

But it’s also not a hard sell to explain the sources of the inflation. Me and others have previous posts that have done so. What is frustrating especially with these younger voters, is a lot of them don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about and just think about things surface level. Real educated students would think deeper and see through that lies being spewed, and thus never vote for Trump. For instance tariffs.

I honestly wished that I kept a running tally of all the dumbass shit Trump has said; just his own words.

For Harris, one thing that I saw as a “flip-flop” in the traditional sense was when she said that she didn’t propose banning fracking. Like there is an easy way to respond to that line of questioning for why she changed her “hardline” position (note that as we transition to a clean energy economy, natural gas will play a role in the short to medium term), but she didn’t take advantage of that. I don’t really recall other examples of a “flip-flop” though. She is hobbled by the immigration argument as well and I’m not sure she’s had a good answer for that. But she does the right thing and deflect to Trump torching the bipartisan Senate deal negotiated by Lankford, who is one of the most conservative members of the Senate.

There are ways to make a compelling arguments to neutralize the disinformation. But it’s tough when there is a firehouse of it and you’re playing whack-a-mole. Particularly with social media and the bots too.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Funny thing is, there's nothing wrong with the economy. It's booming big time, going gangbusters. New market records being set weekly, sometimes daily (S&P set new highs three days this week), prices falling, wages up, hiring up, unemployment at low record levels, GDP stable or increasing.

 

[esquared]

They need to put it out that the syphilitic orange menace is the first president since Herbert Hoover to leave his term with less jobs than he started with.

That takes a special kind of talent to be that incompetent.

 

[trenchfoot]

Bottom line here is for the Dems to try to stay ahead of the flood of lies, misinformation and disinformation that the Republicans are spreading at a rate that makes a wind driven wildfire look like a damp match being struck in the dark.

The Republicans are also exploiting our young one's lack of knowledge and experience at discerning what are facts and what are lies in the body politic. They are preying on the innocence and ignorance of these emerging adults of just how disingenuous and conniving the GOP apparatchiks are in their efforts to turn our youth into Trump bots, infected with the mind fucking they are put through with the hopes that these kids in grown up bodies will spread that infection far and wide in the campuses they study in.

 

[Roger Wilco]

About those Rasmussen polls…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1839419522555515023

 

[MrSquished]

The campaign Kamala and her team are running, when they had to start this operation out of nowhere, is just so so impressive. This is an impressive campaign if they had more time to prepare.

 

[Jaskalas]

They need to put it out that the syphilitic orange menace is the first president since Herbert Hoover to leave his term with less jobs than he started with.

That takes a special kind of talent to be that incompetent.

That's a nice one-two boxing punch for Inflation.
To get them to admit the pandemic existed, and harmed things. It lays the foundation to quickly pivot to inflation and knock it out of the ball park with the truth of the matter.

The debate was such a wasted opportunity to reach a satisfying conclusion there.

 

[QueBert]

Funny thing is, there's nothing wrong with the economy. It's booming big time, going gangbusters. New market records being set weekly, sometimes daily (S&P set new highs three days this week), prices falling, wages up, hiring up, unemployment at low record levels, GDP stable or increasing.

And every single day I see posts on YT from MAGAs who are claiming their cost of living is up 400% under Biden. And they have to work 2 jobs just to survive.

I'll say if your cost of living went up 400% and all you had to do was get 1 extra job to make it, you're doing extremely well. If my cost of living went up 100% I'd be homeless in 3 months. I don't know where MAGAs get their numbers but I see 300-400% a lot, which tells me they are unable to comprehend pretty damn basic math. But they believe it and think Diaper Don can bring that number down to zero his 1st 6 months in office.

They are certain the day he gets elected everything will already start to change, they speak about how great things were under his 4 years and can't wait for that to return. I don't remember 4 great years, I don't even remember any period where it was great lol. $2 a gallon in So Cal was nice to see, but the fact 95% of the state was shut down and we were told to not go anywhere unless absolutely necessary kinda killed my buzz on the cheap gas.

 

[Pens1566]

About those Rasmussen polls…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1839419522555515023

Scavino is a fucking filthy dirty asshole, and I'm not sure how he's skated thus far. He's come a long way from just being a caddy.

 

[K1052]

About those Rasmussen polls…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1839419522555515023

Rasmussen is best understood as an emotional support blanky for Trump.

 

[Dave_5k]

I like this Washington Post forecast model, as it should be accurate up through November (other than ignoring the split votes in Maine and Nebraska

 

[trenchfoot]

Yeah pisses me off that people are that dumb but if the polls are correct apparently all people can think of is:

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They want him back but when they're asked why, all we get back are silly nonsensical word salads that are purposed to provide cover for his ineptitude, his criminality and his obvious unfitness for office.

FFS, the guy is a convicted felon with a growing rap sheet that's been put on pause by his legion of lawyers and a very kissy kissy friendly SCOTUS personally picked by himself, yet there he is, still being in the running despite how he is telling the whole world he intends to shred the Constitution and make a flaming pyre out of the scrap heap in order to install himself as our nation's first Dictator-In-Chief.

That this disastrous nation-transforming fact is being ignored by his supporters can only be attributed to their longing for this to happen. They want a Trump led autocracy supported by a very well integrated cabal of oligarch plutocrats with Elon Musk up front leading the assault. All this in order for them to chalk up the coveted win, no matter the consequences of their blatant disregard for the stable underpinnings that democracy has provided the nation and the main reason why the USA is a standard bearer for the other democracies of the world to emulate and be partners with.

The world has gotten another tyrant to deal with in the guise of an orange tinted felon that's conned millions of Americans into believing he is the answer to the very prayers they were mind fucked into believing in by Trump's right wing predecessors fer cry'in out loud.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

And every single day I see posts on YT from MAGAs who are claiming their cost of living is up 400% under Biden. And they have to work 2 jobs just to survive.

I'll say if your cost of living went up 400% and all you had to do was get 1 extra job to make it, you're doing extremely well. If my cost of living went up 100% I'd be homeless in 3 months. I don't know where MAGAs get their numbers but I see 300-400% a lot, which tells me they are unable to comprehend pretty damn basic math. But they believe it and think Diaper Don can bring that number down to zero his 1st 6 months in office.

They are certain the day he gets elected everything will already start to change, they speak about how great things were under his 4 years and can't wait for that to return. I don't remember 4 great years, I don't even remember any period where it was great lol. $2 a gallon in So Cal was nice to see, but the fact 95% of the state was shut down and we were told to not go anywhere unless absolutely necessary kinda killed my buzz on the cheap gas.

Overall, my costs haven't really changed much. Gas is back down from temporary highs. LP and diesel are back down.. Some food is up, but I change to others that aren't. Electric is up a bit, but not terrible.

I can still put roughly half of my monthly income into high yield savings accounts and my account balances are up considerably from January.

 

[Moonbeam]

Ovearll, my costs haven't really changed much. Gas is back down from temporary highs. LP and diesel are back down.. Some food is up, but I change to others that aren't. Electric is up a bit, but not terrible.

I can still put roughly half of my monthly income into high yield savings accounts and my account balances are up considerably from January.

I like to say that the sun that warmed the face of Jesus as a child on some long ago winter day does the same thing for me today. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

A whipped dog will jump at the sight of a stick but we humans beat ourselves to death with a stick we create in our heads.

Of course that only applies to you. My fears are real.

 

[Moonbeam]

I've spent the last ten minutes trying to picture a marriage in which a husband hasn't realized on a deep level and become completely resigned to the truth after being told millions times that he is definitely a moron. Ah yes, marriage is an institution and love is blind. Marriage is an institution for the blind.

 

[manly]

But I get it. In the end, if he wins, we deserve the outcome. It will have occurred because of the dumb, dumb of the lower middle class in conjunction with the nefarious rich old white guys more or less.

In the Electoral College setup, this is simply not true.
The majority doesn't deserve the outcome just because 48% of voters want the much shittier guy.
If it was easy to educate and convince dumb people, Dems would have done it already. In reality, tribalism explains a lot of people's behaviors, including voting. This is not to absolve people of bad choices, but to explain why much of the electoral cake is already baked.

So the best you can do is try to get your folks to go out and vote, and to convince the tiny slice of people in just the right places to do the right thing. It's anything but easy to win a national election, and it's incredibly expensive in the 21th Century.

 

[Moonbeam]

In the Electoral College setup, this is simply not true.
The majority doesn't deserve the outcome just because 48% of voters want the much shittier guy.
If it was easy to educate and convince dumb people, Dems would have done it already. In reality, tribalism explains a lot of people's behaviors, including voting. This is not to absolve people of bad choices, but to explain why much of the electoral cake is already baked.

So the best you can do is try to get your folks to go out and vote, and to convince the tiny slice of people in just the right places to do the right thing. It's anything but easy to win a national election, and it's incredibly expensive in the 21th Century.

Why not just stop trying to convince people they are voting against their own best interests and tell them why they do it, that they are so frightened of life they run to the first con man who offers them protection and because of that they are unreachable and hopelessly incapable of defending themselves, that the safety of a cult is superior to facing reality because they can't handle the truth.