Kabini 5350 a good option for basic usage?

[Black96ws6]

I am using a 5350 running Linux Mint as a HTPC using the built-in integrated graphics. It's been great. Sips power, and after you install the AMD Linux drivers, no issues watching HD programming on YouTube or Netflix.

Page load times are a little longer compared to my 5820k in Chrome, but hey, what do you expect? Look at the price difference.

It's really good bang for the buck. And the mini case is tiny, looks like a small DVD player lol.

I had some parts such as an older SSD laying around, kb, mouse, and some older memory sticks from a prior PC I no longer use, so total cost was under $150 a few months ago:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IOMFAQ0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA4KP8S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DU6RVK8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

 

[cbn]

Go buy this from Dell and add a hard drive, OS, and external optical:

http://slickdeals.net/f/8385655-del...l-core-139-free-shipping?v=1&src=SiteSearchV2

Pretty nice. (Takes ECC RAM. E3 Xeon available. 4 x 3.5" drive bays. Has two PCIe x 16 slots. 290W PSU has non standard connectors so it can't be swapped though) http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/p...59c9a6a655514aa780000&ven3=262003147257831711

Can't wait till the Skylake version comes out though (re: VT-d and AES-NI available on the Pentium)

 

[PG]

The Dell can take a standard power supply if you use an adapter like this:
http://www.moddiy.com/products/Dell...24%2dPin-to-8%2dPin-Adapter-Cable-(30cm).html

 

[cbn]

The Dell can take a standard power supply if you use an adapter like this:
http://www.moddiy.com/products/Dell...24%2dPin-to-8%2dPin-Adapter-Cable-(30cm).html

Thanks. I will definitely keep that in mind should I buy this server.

P.S. Looking at this Amazon Listing (as a reference) for the PSU, it does look like a pretty stout unit though (14amps on 12V1 and 16 amps on 12V2)

No 6 pin PCIe connector, but for what I intend to do with it will be fine.

 

[Engineer]

Still can't see the point of AM1 when a Celeron would slaughter it real world. And I doubt there is a country on this planet that jacks up Celeron prices. They are always cheap. $50 or so would get you it.

If you can get the cheap AM1 combos from Fry's combined with the 5350 chip having AES-NI, I can see where it would make a really good pfsense CHEAP, low powered router (with faster encryption because of the AES-NI - at least until all Intel chips start shipping with AES-NI and QuickAssist).

Example of $34 5350 chip/board combo.

http://slickdeals.net/f/8074578-amd...therboard-bundle-34ar-frys?v=1&src=SiteSearch

 

[VirtualLarry]

MC has $40 off compatible mobo (AM1), with purchased of a $29.99 AM1 AMD Sempron 3850 quad-core. My local MC (Cambridge, MA), is sold out of the mobos, and it looks like they only carry the ASRock AM1B-ITX (the one with the four SATA ports, and OC support) for $34.99. So conceivably you would get the mobo for free.

 

[littleg]

It is. :thumbsup:

http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/806/bench/Gaming_04.png
http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/806/bench/Gaming_03.png

The G3220 beats it in those benchmarks you posted though. Assuming the previous prices quoted were correct then the Intel for an extra $8 would not only be a better buy for the present but would also allow him to drop in a better CPU (i3 / i5 / i7) in the future if it became needed (or a good deal popped up).

 

[skipsneeky2]

Does it have the PSU on top, relying on it to exhaust air? For instance, many Athlon X2 and Core 2 systems were built with such cases, and those CPUs had TDPs in the 45-65W range. The Haswell Celeron has a 53W TDP, and the benefit of more advanced power management, so it's right in the tested and proven range for that kind of setup.

The case is one of those older ones with the slide out tray,the psu is up top above where the cpu would be and its sideways.So i guess in theory it should exhaust the hot air directly from the cpu and the rest of the build.

A $40-$45 psu with active cooling should certainly help with exhausting any of the rigs hot air.

Wife is getting into WOT suddenly on my rig,hope the G1820 can deliver but will only know when i test out some games how well off the G1820 will work with my gtx 660.

 

[monstercameron]

The case is one of those older ones with the slide out tray,the psu is up top above where the cpu would be and its sideways.So i guess in theory it should exhaust the hot air directly from the cpu and the rest of the build.

A $40-$45 psu with active cooling should certainly help with exhausting any of the rigs hot air.

Wife is getting into WOT suddenly on my rig,hope the G1820 can deliver but will only know when i test out some games how well off the G1820 will work with my gtx 660.

get the cheap kaveri apu the a6-7400k, that'll be much better.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Wife is getting into WOT suddenly on my rig,hope the G1820 can deliver but will only know when i test out some games how well off the G1820 will work with my gtx 660.

If you also got a GTX660, then the Celeron becomes an even more obvious choice.

 

[skipsneeky2]

get the cheap kaveri apu the a6-7400k, that'll be much better.

If i could afford a $65 chip,i would certainly aim for the G3258 and the cheapest motherboard that could overclock it.

My wifes sudden interest in WOT,pretty much deciding to go Intel here for that alone now.

 

[AtenRa]

get the cheap kaveri apu the a6-7400k, that'll be much better.

yeap, the 7400K is more than enough even for 1080p Low.

 

[AtenRa]

If i could afford a $65 chip,i would certainly aim for the G3258 and the cheapest motherboard that could overclock it.

My wifes sudden interest in WOT,pretty much deciding to go Intel here for that alone now.

see my post above, 7400K is more than enough for WOT

 

[Sweepr]

The G3220 beats it in those benchmarks you posted though. Assuming the previous prices quoted were correct then the Intel for an extra $8 would not only be a better buy for the present but would also allow him to drop in a better CPU (i3 / i5 / i7) in the future if it became needed (or a good deal popped up).

Sure, but let's not forget he wants to spend as little as possible so every $ counts.

Wife is getting into WOT suddenly on my rig,hope the G1820 can deliver but will only know when i test out some games how well off the G1820 will work with my gtx 660.

Haswell Celeron is more than enough (check tests with dGPUs here). Also allows you to upgrade to some discounted/used Haswell Core i5/i7 chips in the future, much faster than any AMD FM2+ CPU. Have fun.

 

[AtenRa]

Haswell Celeron is more than enough (check tests with dGPUs here). Also allows you to upgrade to some discounted/used Haswell Core i5/i7 chips in the future, much faster than any AMD FM2+ CPU. Have fun. :thumbsup:

You neglected to mention that he will have to spend more for the G1820 + dGPU in order to be able to game WOT at 1080p. When with just the A6-7400K (currently at only $65 at newegg) can game at 1080p with its iGPU alone.

 

[cbn]

If you can get the cheap AM1 combos from Fry's combined with the 5350 chip having AES-NI, I can see where it would make a really good pfsense CHEAP, low powered router (with faster encryption because of the AES-NI - at least until all Intel chips start shipping with AES-NI and QuickAssist).

Example of $34 5350 chip/board combo.

http://slickdeals.net/f/8074578-amd...therboard-bundle-34ar-frys?v=1&src=SiteSearch

A little off topic (sorry), but do you think a Athlon 5350 would make a better Pfsense router than Sempron 3850, Sempron 2650, or E1-2100?

P.S. To the OP, I do own a Athlon 5350 and it is decent enough for web browsing.

 

[Sweepr]

You neglected to mention that he will have to spend more for the G1820 + dGPU in order to be able to game WOT at 1080p. When with just the A6-7400K (currently at only $65 at newegg) can game at 1080p with its iGPU alone.

Geforce GTX660 is much better than this single-module APU trash (he already owns one). Also Haswell Celeron is the better CPU and provides the best upgrade path for someone on a budget. Do not listen to AMD resellers OP, you made the right choice.

 

[AtenRa]

ehm I dont thing he will use his GTX660 in to the wife's PC. I believe he mentioned it to see how the Celeron will work on the games with a dGPU, because his asking if the Celeron iGPU is enough for WOT gaming in the VC&G section.

 

[ShintaiDK]

He will get a GTX 750 TI later according to the thread in VCG.

AMD is not an option.

 

[AtenRa]

He will get a GTX 750 TI later according to the thread in VCG.

AMD is not an option.

And until then (which we dont know when that will be, could be 3-6 or more months) Celeron GT1 graphics is ???

 

[ShintaiDK]

And until then (which we dont know when that will be, could be 3-6 or more months) Celeron GT1 graphics is ???

Did you forget CPU performance and platform potential again?

Talking about WoT, even with a GTX750TI he would end up CPU limited by the slowpoke AMD CPU.

 

[TheELF]

Wife is getting into WOT suddenly on my rig,hope the G1820 can deliver but will only know when i test out some games how well off the G1820 will work with my gtx 660.

Real life scenario with other stuff running in the background instead of a sterile benchmark.(oh yeah and with more then one tank or one tree visible at any time)
I also have a lot of other game videos if you want to check them out.

G1820, GTX650, 8Gb mem in dual channel, WoT 9.13 (latest) running in medium shown at the end of the clip,resolution is irrelevant for the cpu and only impacts the GPU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHcppGHODi4

 

[AtenRa]

Did you forget CPU performance and platform potential again?

Talking about WoT, even with a GTX750TI he would end up CPU limited by the slowpoke AMD CPU.

Did you forget he wants to spend a low budget for this ??? the A6-7400K with only the iGPU will let his wife play WOT even at 1080p.

Unless his budget is at $150 for the CPU + dGPU, i dont see why he has to spend more for this.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Did you forget he wants to spend a low budget for this ??? the A6-7400K with only the iGPU will let his wife play WOT even at 1080p.

Unless his budget is at $150 for the CPU + dGPU, i dont see why he has to spend more for this.

Why dont you read what he posts instead of blindly trying to sell AMD at every single opportunity. I feel sorry for your own customers.

Eventually will be dropping in a respectable gpu like a 750 ti but was wondering where the G1820 would land with its IGP in the mean time.

Wife is getting into WOT suddenly on my rig,hope the G1820 can deliver but will only know when i test out some games how well off the G1820 will work with my gtx 660.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Real life scenario with other stuff running in the background instead of a sterile benchmark.(oh yeah and with more then one tank or one tree visible at any time)
I also have a lot of other game videos if you want to check them out.

G1820, GTX650, 8Gb mem in dual channel, WoT 9.13 (latest) running in medium shown at the end of the clip,resolution is irrelevant for the cpu and only impacts the GPU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHcppGHODi4

Beautiful video,i kept looking up videos and its mostly russians maxing out settings at 1080p on their APU and G1820 and getting 15-35fps which is completely unacceptable to me.

Looks like the gtx650 is held back by the G1820 but i do know pumping up some of those settings easily will put the 650 right back to being the bottleneck.Having had a 650 before,i know what it could do.

I run the Maximum standard preset graphics with 4x AA,i pump out over 100 fps usually with my 660 and i5 2500 and its vastly overkill for 1280x800.

I am guessing you posted that video,if so thanks bud.:thumbsup: If it wouldn't bother you much,could you do the Maximum standard preset+4xAA settings and see how that runs?Would be awesome.