Kabini 5350 a good option for basic usage?

[Magic Carpet]

skipsneeky2,

Unless you really hate your wife, get her something like this instead (not bad a deal for $116.99). In games, you need per-core performance (especially simpler games like that Wizaaaard), this APU has lousy ST performance, even by AMD standards. But again, I base my opinion on A4-5000 which is 500 Mhz slower. Keep that in mind.

 

[Shivansps]

Yup,this is about it.

The G1820 i could afford with a cheap Asrock mobo,but for light gaming would i even be better off with the 5350 and its IGP or the G1820?

I did mention in the Op my wife does play some Wizard 101,i haven't had much luck finding quality benchmarking of the IGP.Seems the market focuses on the higher end chips these days.

If the IGP in the G1820 is as fast as the 5350 i would pretty much disregard the 5350.I was under the impression that with lower end chips for gaming that the APU was the way to go.

The Haswell Celerons IGP are FASTER than AM1 igp, but only on dual channel, on single channel are about the same or less.

 

[crashtech]

skipsneeky2,

Unless you really hate your wife, get her something like this instead (not bad a deal for $116.99). In games, you need per-core performance (especially simpler games like that Wizaaaard), this APU has lousy ST performance, even by AMD standards. But again, I base my opinion on A4-5000 which is 500 Mhz slower. Keep that in mind.

Or, do far better for only a few dollars more:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WPVcwP

 

[monstercameron]

Or, do far better for only a few dollars more:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WPVcwP

or an even better amd counter:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pFbsxr

tonnes of options op...

 

[Shivansps]

5400K and a A88X? WTH, thats a huge waste.

-G1840+H81 is the best CPU low end performing combo, with a decent IGP if you use dual channel.

-A4-7300+A68 is the best IGP low end performing combo, but you are petty much forced to dual channel to use that advantage, A6-7400K is a better option for a few bucks more.

Both are better than the Athlon 5350 on AM1, AM1 is only good for thermal constrained ITX builds.

 

[AtenRa]

Nice non-sequitor to compare one system with SSD to another without.

People suggesting to spend more for a faster CPU, im suggesting to spend more for the SSD.

In any case your math must be the "new math". Using NewEgg prices, the 5350 is 47.00, and the Pentium (not celeron) G3220 is 55.00. Would you care to link me an SSD that you can buy for 8.00, or even a decent capacity one that is only 8.00 more than a HDD?

In any case, you have to really stretch credulity to argue that someone is so budget constrained that they cannot spend 10 or 20 dollars more for a faster processor.

Edit: after looking at that price for the 5350, I am even more adamantly convinced that it is a terrible choice for a desktop.

If you read my post carefully you will see that im talking about platform cost and not the CPU alone.

So if you want to spend a little more you better get the Athlon + SSD than the faster CPU with HDD.

 

[ShintaiDK]

or an even better amd counter:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pFbsxr

tonnes of options op...

That´s not a better counter. Those 1M CPUs are terrible.

 

[AtenRa]

Well the OP CPU + Mobo is listed at 48 + 35 = $83

It would be better to know the actual available budget and then recommend the best option. But if the budget is sub $100 then the Athlon is the only option.

If you go for the Athlon, i would only change the Motherboard with a micro-iTX for a future use with a SFF case.

 

[ShintaiDK]

People suggesting to spend more for a faster CPU, im suggesting to spend more for the SSD.

Because buying a faster CPU yield a better result when the bar is so low. And its cheaper to replace the storage than it is to replace mobo+cpu. AM1 is a trashy discount desktop. And like its Baytrail cousins its close to a direct travel to the recycling/landfill after purchase. The first complain will be: Why is it so slow?

 

[monstercameron]

5400K and a A88X? WTH, thats a huge waste.

-G1840+H81 is the best CPU low end performing combo, with a decent IGP if you use dual channel.

-A4-7300+A68 is the best IGP low end performing combo, but you are petty much forced to dual channel to use that advantage, A6-7400K is a better option for a few bucks more.

Both are better than the Athlon 5350 on AM1, AM1 is only good for thermal constrained ITX builds.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pFbsxr
this aint bad...

 

[Shivansps]

You guys dont understand what is it to build new pcs every day and having to deal with the AM1 trash, hell! even the A4-7300 feels slow compared to a Celeron G1820!
And the only thing i do on software is: installing drivers!!!! O.S. is image loaded.

AM1 is the worst thing it could have happen to me on my workplace.

 

[Shivansps]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pFbsxr
this aint bad...

yeah, but if you pick the A4-7300 you could have placed 2x4GB on the same price, since you are using DC on a dual slot mb i rather go with 8GB.
Thats the minimum on FM2 to me, with the A6-7400K as a option. Keep in mind that both are about the same on CPU, its the IGP the main difference.

 

[Sweepr]

Well the OP CPU + Mobo is listed at 48 + 35 = $83

It would be better to know the actual available budget and then recommend the best option. But if the budget is sub $100 then the Athlon is the only option.

No it isn't.

$89
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157483
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116974&cm_re=celeron_1150-_-19-116-974-_-Product

People suggesting to spend more for a faster CPU, im suggesting to spend more for the SSD.

Actually the Celeron G1820 CPU itself is cheaper.

 

[frozentundra123456]

That´s not a better counter. Those 1M CPUs are terrible.

Agreed, but it is a hell of a lot better than Kabini, and FM2 can be upgraded later if the OP desires. I cant honestly believe anyone is trying to recommend Kabini for a desktop when there are so many better options both from AMD and Intel.

I am certainly no fan of single module APUs, but a single module Kaveri has similar multithreaded performance as the 5350 and at least twice the single threaded, as well as an upgrade path.

 

[ShintaiDK]

That's true. However in this price range there is only one real option, and that's Core based.

Curse the OEMs that ever got Kabini and Baytrail into the desktops.

 

[escrow4]

I just swapped in a G1850 I had lying around and there is little difference between it and a i3 4170. Some Youtube 60FPS videos drop frames and hammer the CPU, otherwise it is sufficient. I would not drop lower than a Celeron (which is already dirt cheap anyway). I think I'll sell the i3 and see how this goes actually.

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

Agreed, but it is a hell of a lot better than Kabini, and FM2 can be upgraded later if the OP desires. I cant honestly believe anyone is trying to recommend Kabini for a desktop when there are so many better options both from AMD and Intel.

I am certainly no fan of single module APUs, but a single module Kaveri has similar multithreaded performance as the 5350 and at least twice the single threaded, as well as an upgrade path.

Yeah, I might add -- if he lives near a Micro Center store = He can get an A6 7400K for $59 with a free Gigabyte motherboard. Kabini is fun to tinker with..... but I'd much rather run an FM2+ system personally. You'd be surprised at how many games run well on an A6 at 720p.

Here's the link:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

 

[jpiniero]

That's true. However in this price range there is only one real option, and that's Core based.

Curse the OEMs that ever got Kabini and Baytrail into the desktops.

I think you are totally overestimating how much single thread you really need when Chrome has had a lot of work done with multithreading and any media stuff (should) be handled by the GPU. Although admittingly I haven't used Windows at all with anything with a low single thread recently so I don't know how badly things would be there, only really Android or iOS which are much more lightweight.

 

[escrow4]

No point at H81 prices actually compared to original OPs prices:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130731

Decent H81 board with front panel USB 3 for $46

Top shelf baller G1850 Celeron for $55:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116999

Standard G1820 Celeron is $43:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116974

200MHz slower.

$18 more gets you better CPU performance and a better board. $6 difference for the base Celeron.

 

[myocardia]

5400K and a A88X? WTH, thats a huge waste.

Agreed.

-G1840+H81 is the best CPU low end performing combo, with a decent IGP if you use dual channel.

Agreed.

-A4-7300+A68 is the best IGP low end performing combo, but you are petty much forced to dual channel to use that advantage, A6-7400K is a better option for a few bucks more.

Indeed.

Both are better than the Athlon 5350 on AM1, AM1 is only good for thermal constrained ITX builds.

Exactly. It is really the best option for ITX, assuming you are using a case too small to fit a Haswell CPU + dedicated GPU, and can't afford/don't want to spend the money for Skylake. For any non space-/-thermally-constrained use, it makes no sense, at least for desktop.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Ick! Don't force your wife to use a Kabini/Atom class CPU here...

CPU: Celeron G1840 - $47.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117301&cm_re=G1840-_-19-117-301-_-Product)

Mobo: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 - $46 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157483&cm_re=h81-_-13-157-483-_-Product)

 

[JWade]

I have an amd 5350 system hooked to one of our TV's, it does fine for me, does everything the OP listed wanting to do with it.

I also don't see the problem in using an fm1 combo if no plans on upgrading. I just got a 2.8ghz Athlon II 641 quad fm1 chip and mobo for $59 total, and picked up a 2gb NVidia 640 card for $20,

 

[VirtualLarry]

If you passively/aggressively hate your wife, go for it.

P.S. Have you been hanging out too much with Virtual Larry??

Funny, I was going to respond with a resounding NO. Don't get any AM1 CPU, they are painful. (Well, at least the 1.3Ghz quad Sempron 3850 is.)

 

[ShintaiDK]

I think you are totally overestimating how much single thread you really need when Chrome has had a lot of work done with multithreading and any media stuff (should) be handled by the GPU. Although admittingly I haven't used Windows at all with anything with a low single thread recently so I don't know how badly things would be there, only really Android or iOS which are much more lightweight.

Using another OS isnt going to fix it. And Apple with IOS devices is very very ST focused.

Android, Chrome etc is just as big as a turd with a slow CPU as Windows or IOS is.

 

[myocardia]

I have an amd 5350 system hooked to one of our TV's, it does fine for me, does everything the OP listed wanting to do with it.

You're right, it would make quite a decent HTPC setup, since after you browse to what you want to playback from local storage or stream from the internet or your network, the user then no longer needs to interact with it.

I just got a 2.8ghz Athlon II 641 quad fm1 chip and mobo for $59 total, and picked up a 2gb NVidia 640 card for $20,

That is a deal. If the OP had asked about this exact combination, I can assure you that he wouldn't have gotten the responses that he has in this thread. Do either of these deals happen to still be in effect? That would be the perfect setup for the OP's wife, honestly.