Just upgraded to an iPhone 4s from a Droid Incredible

[runawayprisoner]

OK, this is just curiosity now... What if I get a work email... I couldn't reply and attach a file?

If you reply to an email and you want to attach a file, you can copy and paste the content of the last email over to the reply form in the other app where you get to choose the document to attach.

It sounds complicated, but in reality, it's just a matter of choosing an address, copy, paste, choose the whole email (Select All), copy, and paste.

Alternatively, and this is the way I prefer, reply to the first email and tell them to expect you to send some docs. Condense all of those docs from their respective apps into an archive app by using "Open In...", and then create a zip file, then send that zip file as a follow up email. That means only the address has to be copied, but if it's an address in your contact list, just type the first few letters of the contact's name and it's there.

Unless you absolutely must reply using only 1 email, that is.

The only caveat is that Apple's iWork apps cannot do this since they offer no "Open In..." option. It sucks a lot because Apple's iWork apps actually create pretty decent presentations and PDF files. However, you can still send individual files along.

If you want to condense iWork docs, it's

I don't get this. (Or similar virtually meaningless supposed 'benchmarks' of nothingness).

Why would I care about how "smoothly" Netflix scrolls vs. it opening the movie I want to see faster and playing on a larger/wider screen that I'd rather watch a movie on?

Imagine it's not Netflix but something else where the whole purpose of the app is actually about scrolling.

Like viewing the inventory or BOM of the latest project... and there are 10,000 entries or so.

Not a pretty experience on Android. It's not about Netflix, but about those little graphics elements and forms that might be important elsewhere.

That's seamless? You have got to be kidding me. That moronic system is enough to ensure I will never purchase anything iOS based.

So do you prefer wading through folders after folders in the chooser to find each file you want to send?

I actually had to do this once with my Samsung Captivate. The files I needed were in different folders on the SD card, and some were not saved from their respective apps, so it was a big scramble into different apps to save all of those documents, and then back in the email client, I had to go in different folders to choose each one independently. There was no way to group them all into just one app or one place.

I could have copied or moved them all into the same location and archived them, but that same operation would have taken me just as long.

I wonder if it is even possible to attach multiple types of files to a single email using that "seamless" system.

It is. Like I said, there are archive apps in the App Store that can "read" many files into itself, which can then be put into a single compressed file with a few taps, and then only one file has to be sent.

The only exception, as I noted, was Apple's iWorks.

 

[Zaap]

Imagine it's not Netflix but something else where the whole purpose of the app is actually about scrolling.

Like viewing the inventory or BOM of the latest project... and there are 10,000 entries or so.

Not a pretty experience on Android.

Do you know this for sure? As in, there really is any problem on say, a SGS2, with scrolling through a large inventory file? (I don't use a phone to do anything like that, so I have no idea.)

I ask because I've seen no evidence the SGS2 or similar modern Android phone has any such problem.

 

[Dulanic]

If you reply to an email and you want to attach a file, you can copy and paste the content of the last email over to the reply form in the other app where you get to choose the document to attach.

It sounds complicated, but in reality, it's just a matter of choosing an address, copy, paste, choose the whole email (Select All), copy, and paste.

Alternatively, and this is the way I prefer, reply to the first email and tell them to expect you to send some docs. Condense all of those docs from their respective apps into an archive app by using "Open In...", and then create a zip file, then send that zip file as a follow up email. That means only the address has to be copied, but if it's an address in your contact list, just type the first few letters of the contact's name and it's there.

Unless you absolutely must reply using only 1 email, that is.

The only caveat is that Apple's iWork apps cannot do this since they offer no "Open In..." option. It sucks a lot because Apple's iWork apps actually create pretty decent presentations and PDF files. However, you can still send individual files along.

That is beyond inconvenient IMO and makes no sense why apple would do that.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

So do you prefer wading through folders after folders in the chooser to find each file you want to send?

I actually had to do this once with my Samsung Captivate. The files I needed were in different folders on the SD card, and some were not saved from their respective apps, so it was a big scramble into different apps to save all of those documents, and then back in the email client, I had to go in different folders to choose each one independently. There was no way to group them all into just one app or one place.

Why did you even have to open a single app other than the email one or a file manager to accomplish that?

 

[jpeyton]

Actually, it's not.

Just go to where the attachment should be, like if it's a document, go to the text editor, or if it's a photo, go to the photo app.

Choose the photo or document to attach, choose "send email", and a new dialog box will open for you to compose the email.

It's just a reverse of what usually happens on a computer, but it's more seamless than copying and pasting stuffs.

It's the opposite of seamless; it's a huge PITA, actually. If I'm already involved in an e-mail thread with someone on my Android phone, I just click reply--->menu--->attach and the e-mail thread continues on seamlessly as it does in any desktop/web e-mail application (meaning auto-filled send-to address, auto-filled subject, quoted text from prior e-mail, etc.)

On an iPhone, you have to locate the attachment first, menu--->email, then fill out the send-to address, fill out the subject, fill out the message field because it has no context (no quoted text from prior messages). That's many, many times more keystrokes filling out things that should be auto-filled if you could simply hit reply instead.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

You guys still don't get it. Apple's attention to detail is UNMATCHED in the mobile world. And believe me it's something I noticed RIGHT AWAY when I switched from 2.3.5 Gingerbread.

Google doesn't even come close to matching the spit and polish of iOS. Anyone arguing otherwise has not legitimately used an iPhone.

 

[Pliablemoose]

You guys still don't get it. Apple's attention to detail is UNMATCHED in the mobile world. And believe me it's something I noticed RIGHT AWAY when I switched from 2.3.5 Gingerbread.

Google doesn't even come close to matching the spit and polish of iOS. Anyone arguing otherwise has not legitimately used an iPhone.

Meh, don't worry about it, just enjoy the hell out of your new phone

 

[Puddle Jumper]

You guys still don't get it. Apple's attention to detail is UNMATCHED in the mobile world. And believe me it's something I noticed RIGHT AWAY when I switched from 2.3.5 Gingerbread.

Google doesn't even come close to matching the spit and polish of iOS. Anyone arguing otherwise has not legitimately used an iPhone.

Have you read the last dozen or so posts? having to jump through hoops to perform an essential function like attaching a file to an email shows that apple is oblivious when it comes to the details. Likewise iOS is hardly polished when it has such massive holes in it's capabilities despite being on it's 5th versions, stuff like that is what I would expect from a beta.

So far you have yet to provide a single fact to back up Apple's perfection, surely if it is as good as you claim there should be many.

 

[badb0y]

OP, you just like Apple's ecosystem better but that doesn't mean Android sucks.

I am in the same boat, I prefer Apple but that doesn't mean that I hate Android, I just like Apple better.

 

[dguy6789]

The misinformation and opinions being presented as fact in this thread is simply too numerous for me to bother addressing. Some people really love their delusions I guess.

 

[runawayprisoner]

It's the opposite of seamless; it's a huge PITA, actually. If I'm already involved in an e-mail thread with someone on my Android phone, I just click reply--->menu--->attach and the e-mail thread continues on seamlessly as it does in any desktop/web e-mail application (meaning auto-filled send-to address, auto-filled subject, quoted text from prior e-mail, etc.)

On an iPhone, you have to locate the attachment first, menu--->email, then fill out the send-to address, fill out the subject, fill out the message field because it has no context (no quoted text from prior messages). That's many, many times more keystrokes filling out things that should be auto-filled if you could simply hit reply instead.

There is actually another way to fix it: simply jailbreak the device and install a tweak. That would essentially make the mail app on iOS just like the one on Android.

But I agree, it's the very much opposite of seamless. However, it's not like it's impossible as implicated.

Also it's something that I find myself do only on special occasions. If I have my laptop with me, I'd use it instead of my phone.

 

[NeoV]

I'd like to point out the stupidity of complaining about 'force close' apps on a ..........rooted phone.

Both sides of this discussion have valid points - to say one is definitively better than that other, based on your own personal experience, is pointless

 

[alent1234]

Have you read the last dozen or so posts? having to jump through hoops to perform an essential function like attaching a file to an email shows that apple is oblivious when it comes to the details. Likewise iOS is hardly polished when it has such massive holes in it's capabilities despite being on it's 5th versions, stuff like that is what I would expect from a beta.

So far you have yet to provide a single fact to back up Apple's perfection, surely if it is as good as you claim there should be many.

i hate the mail client on my word droid so much i use my iphone and ipad for work email. HTC was better in usability but it wouldn't push to exchange sub folders

and this is simple stuff iOS has been doing since version 3

 

[pm]

The misinformation and opinions being presented as fact in this thread is simply too numerous for me to bother addressing.

I was out all day and I just logged in now and I missed most of this. I'm leaning along towards dguy6789's way of thinking - there's a fair amount of wild opinions in this thread - and not a lot of concrete facts... although there's a few really good posts in the thread. This discussion about attachments (and runawayprisoners post about them) has been good.

I'm leaning towards locking the thread but I'll let it go a bit longer. At the minimum, please keep your posts factual - if you can cite photos or links to back up your stated opinion that would be helpful.

Thanks
Moderator PM[

 

[Anubis]

i hate the mail client on my word droid so much i use my iphone and ipad for work email. HTC was better in usability but it wouldn't push to exchange sub folders

and this is simple stuff iOS has been doing since version 3

great thing about android is there are a billion other mail clients you can try to find one that is to your liking

 

[luv2liv]

iOS is seamless?? please tell me you are joking. there are times when my apps force close on me. clearly unacceptable! mine isnt even jailbroken

synching files using itunes? this has to be the biggest joke of them all. what takes just seconds with other phones acting as a usb drive takes forever with an iOS device as you sit back and wait for itunes to be installed and watch how everything is wiped out when you try to sync on another machine.

 

[freegeeks]

You still don't get it.

Android is fragmented. I had to fucking root my phone and put Cyanogen on it to get it to run at an acceptable level. There is no consistent UI experience with Android because Google didn't, and still doesn't, know how to emulate what MS and Apple have done for years.

Too much configurability is not a good thing on a mobile device. Some nerds may like it, but the vast majority of users don't have the time or patience. Having my apps force close on me is NOT ACCEPTABLE on a mobile device. This has never happened on my iPhone once.

Android CANNOT, DOES NOT, and WILL NEVER compare to the iOS experience. It's buggy, crashy, herky jerky, and not anywhere close to as integrated and polished as iOS is. You cannot debate this. This is fact.

I went from iphone to android (Nexus one). I prefer much more the android experience

to each his own

 

[Dulanic]

I went from iphone to android (Nexus one). I prefer much more the android experience

to each his own

Unacceptable! No one can have differing opinions! Actually the only thing that usually draws me out is misinformation and/or lies personally more so than anything else. If I am not sure about something in how one system works vs the other, I usually don't speak or I ask like this thread.

 

[mashimaroo]

There is simply no comparison. This phone is in another class altogether.

I am a self-admitted Mac hater too. But I'm completely convinced Apple got it right when it comes to smart phones. Their completely walled off, tightly integrated eco-system works PERFECTLY in the mobile arena. This is exactly what people want, even power users like myself. I just want a phone that works right out the gate, I don't want to spend hours configuring my phone. I'm willing to do that for my desktop, but NOT for my phone.

I truly feel sad for anyone who thinks Android can even compare with this experience. Forget the benchmarks you dolts, it's all about usability and the ecosystem. Outside of MS, no other company is capable of pulling off what Apple has done with iOS and their iPhones.

i love the 4s and the ipad 2.
the faster processors are really amazing and apple added the mirroring feature that lets both of them have video out. its great hope you enjoy!

 

[alent1234]

great thing about android is there are a billion other mail clients you can try to find one that is to your liking

Like I'm really going to pay money for something like touchdown

 

[Dulanic]

Like I'm really going to pay money for something like touchdown

Wow some apple users claim that they actually buy apps... but then if it's on android... you are like OMG I wont pay for that!

FYI there are quite a few free and quite a few pay apps, take your pick. But if someone wants or needs to use Touchdown.... Maybe it is just me but I am much more willing to pay for touchdown for $20 than pay much more for navigation.

However, even that is kind of pointless as most stock email clients work great /w exchange. I know the Samsung one works fantastic.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Wow Apple users claim that they actually buy apps... but then if it's on android... OMG I wont pay for that!

FYI there are quite a few free and quite a few pay apps, take your pick. But if someone wants or needs to use Touchdown.... Maybe it is just me but I am much more willing to pay for touchdown for $20 than pay much more for navigation.

However, even that is kind of pointless as most stock email clients work great /w exchange. I know the Samsung one works fantastic.

There are several free navigation apps for iOS, am using Waze now, it's quite good, and sooner or later Apple will include navigation on it's devices, they've bought 3 mapping/navigation companies in the last year. They just bought a really slick 3D mapping company, C3 Technologies, having already purchased Poly 9 and Placebase. I suspect iOS 6 will have Apple branded navigation in 3D.

 

[Dulanic]

There are several free navigation apps for iOS, am using Waze now, it's quite good, and sooner or later Apple will include navigation on it's devices, they've bought 3 mapping/navigation companies in the last year. They just bought a really slick 3D mapping company, C3 Technologies, having already purchased Poly 9 and Placebase. I suspect iOS 6 will have Apple branded navigation in 3D.

Good to know. I know earlier this year there were huge threads about GPS & Apple and that wasn't the case. However, does anyone expect a Apple nav to come included and not cost monthly at least?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Good to know. I know earlier this year there were huge threads about GPS & Apple and that wasn't the case. However, does anyone expect a Apple nav to come included and not cost monthly at least?

Yes.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Good to know. I know earlier this year there were huge threads about GPS & Apple and that wasn't the case. However, does anyone expect a Apple nav to come included and not cost monthly at least?

I think there will still be a cost of some sort, but it'll likely be low, like iTunes Match for $25 a year.

It's better if it's free, but really, I don't expect it to happen, especially if it's 3D navigation with detailed terrain map and voice-guide, all integrated into Siri.