Just upgraded to an iPhone 4s from a Droid Incredible

[s44]

You obviously never tried the SGSII, that thing flies.

Indeed. And if "smooth" is everything, whoops...

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://stam-design-stam.blogspot.com/2011/10/ios-5.html

Y'all have to admit Apple pays attention to details...

 

[abaez]

http://stam-design-stam.blogspot.com/2011/10/ios-5.html

Y'all have to admit Apple pays attention to details...

Do you actually think 99% of all iPhone users even notice this?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Do you actually think 99% of all iPhone users even notice this?

Of course not, but when the whole device is assembled and the software is coded with that kind of attention to detail, it makes a difference in the user experience and the perception of quality.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Do you actually think 99% of all iPhone users even notice this?

Yes. Actually it's noticeable in the text message app and where those highlights make graphics elements sharper.

It gives the "illusion" that texts and stuffs look sharper than they actually are.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

I've used a iphone but not on a consistent basis.... Can you seriously not attach files to email? I just can't believe that can be true....

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1244163

You can, but sounds like it's a pain in the ass.

 

[trmiv]

Honestly the fast current android phones and the iPhone 4s are pretty comparable. Both do pretty much everything most users would want and both are fast and smooth. It really comes down to user preference at this point. Personally I like them both and see no need to put down one to prop up the other.

 

[runawayprisoner]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1244163

You can, but sounds like it's a pain in the ass.

Actually, it's not.

Just go to where the attachment should be, like if it's a document, go to the text editor, or if it's a photo, go to the photo app.

Choose the photo or document to attach, choose "send email", and a new dialog box will open for you to compose the email.

It's just a reverse of what usually happens on a computer, but it's more seamless than copying and pasting stuffs.

 

[Dominato3r]

Of course not, but when the whole device is assembled and the software is coded with that kind of attention to detail, it makes a difference in the user experience and the perception of quality.

....

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Indeed. And if "smooth" is everything, whoops...

I dont get your point in that video?

 

[runawayprisoner]

I dont get your point in that video?

Notice how "smoothly" Netflix scrolls on the Galaxy S II. Then glance over to the iPhone 4S to see how it's doing.

It still baffles me how iOS developers get better SDK optimizations than Android. It's like Google is purposefully letting it be that way.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Notice how "smoothly" Netflix scrolls on the Galaxy S II. Then glance over to the iPhone 4S to see how it's doing.

It still baffles me how iOS developers get better SDK optimizations than Android. It's like Google is purposefully letting it be that way.

Ive used both side by side as well and I wouldnt say one is smoother than the other, I'd say its a different kind of smooth. The iphone is kind of a bouncy smooth while the sgs2 is like a flat smooth.

Honestly though, the one thing that Android needs to match from ios is the keyboard. the iphone keyboard is the best keyboard ive ever used.

 

[quest55720]

Ive used both side by side as well and I wouldnt say one is smoother than the other, I'd say its a different kind of smooth. The iphone is kind of a bouncy smooth while the sgs2 is like a flat smooth.

Honestly though, the one thing that Android needs to match from ios is the keyboard. the iphone keyboard is the best keyboard ive ever used.

IMO the WP7 keyboard is still the best.

 

[Throckmorton]

My only smartphone experiences are with an iPhone 3G a couple years ago (now I just use it as a Touch) and a Motorola Droid 2 that I have for work now. Even the old iPhone 3G is a better phone. The OS is much much more usable, fast, and stable, and the touch screen is better.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Ive used both side by side as well and I wouldnt say one is smoother than the other, I'd say its a different kind of smooth. The iphone is kind of a bouncy smooth while the sgs2 is like a flat smooth.

It's elasticity.

But beyond that, it's not a secret that Android lacks GPU acceleration, so however smooth you are seeing it right now, it could be better.

The iPhone 4S is actually running with a CPU that's supposedly 33% slower than the Galaxy S II in raw performance. Or put another way, if the Galaxy S II was running iOS, it should be 50% faster than the iPhone 4S.

 

[Zivic]

I went from an N1 to a iphone 4. (and promptly back to the N1 after about 2 wks of he11) the iphone is absolute crap as far as I am concerned. IOS sucks. built for 5 yr olds... single dummy button. all maneuvering buttons are on the already too small screen and actually they didn't seem as consistent as I would have expected them to be. Safari sucks... no shortcut to search.

Then there is the whole itunes syncing thing... said politely -> FORGET that BS.

In all fairness the external speaker is awesome, and the screen does look nice, but just so damn small.

If the 4S came with a 3.75+ screen, I would consider it a decent phone, but I think the real "dolts" here are the ones that think the 4s is something special

 

[Dulanic]

Actually, it's not.

Just go to where the attachment should be, like if it's a document, go to the text editor, or if it's a photo, go to the photo app.

Choose the photo or document to attach, choose "send email", and a new dialog box will open for you to compose the email.

It's just a reverse of what usually happens on a computer, but it's more seamless than copying and pasting stuffs.

OK, this is just curiosity now... What if I get a work email... I couldn't reply and attach a file?

If that is the case then the possibility of me ever going iOS went from low to zero.

 

[Zaap]

Honestly though, the one thing that Android needs to match from ios is the keyboard. the iphone keyboard is the best keyboard ive ever used.

I'd rather replace the stock keyboard with my own choice on either platform. Love ThumbKeyboard.

 

[Zaap]

Notice how "smoothly" Netflix scrolls on the Galaxy S II. Then glance over to the iPhone 4S to see how it's doing.

It still baffles me how iOS developers get better SDK optimizations than Android. It's like Google is purposefully letting it be that way.

I don't get this. (Or similar virtually meaningless supposed 'benchmarks' of nothingness).

Why would I care about how "smoothly" Netflix scrolls vs. it opening the movie I want to see faster and playing on a larger/wider screen that I'd rather watch a movie on?

 

[Mr. Lennon]

OK, this is just curiosity now... What if I get a work email... I couldn't reply and attach a file?

If that is the case then the possibility of me ever going iOS went from low to zero.

Yeah I'm curious about this as well. Calling it a "seamless" way to send files is laughable. On android, I create a new email and can attach multiple files from there...that's seamless.

 

[kubani1]

You still don't get it.

Android is fragmented. I had to fucking root my phone and put Cyanogen on it to get it to run at an acceptable level. There is no consistent UI experience with Android because Google didn't, and still doesn't, know how to emulate what MS and Apple have done for years.

Too much configurability is not a good thing on a mobile device. Some nerds may like it, but the vast majority of users don't have the time or patience. Having my apps force close on me is NOT ACCEPTABLE on a mobile device. This has never happened on my iPhone once.

Android CANNOT, DOES NOT, and WILL NEVER compare to the iOS experience. It's buggy, crashy, herky jerky, and not anywhere close to as integrated and polished as iOS is. You cannot debate this. This is fact.

ha, he said herky jerky and expects this to be taken serious.

all fairness aside (and i don't know how it compares to a sgs2), the new iphone 4s is pretty damn smooth, i played with a friends today, and siri was actually, impressively, much better than google voice on my desire s, again, i don't know how this compares to a "new" android phone, but it was impressive and smooth.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Notice how "smoothly" Netflix scrolls on the Galaxy S II. Then glance over to the iPhone 4S to see how it's doing.

It still baffles me how iOS developers get better SDK optimizations than Android. It's like Google is purposefully letting it be that way.

Yeah, after all the whole point of the netflix app is to scroll, who would care how good it is at doing something useless like loading videos. (extreme sarcasm)

Actually, it's not.

Just go to where the attachment should be, like if it's a document, go to the text editor, or if it's a photo, go to the photo app.

Choose the photo or document to attach, choose "send email", and a new dialog box will open for you to compose the email.

It's just a reverse of what usually happens on a computer, but it's more seamless than copying and pasting stuffs.

That's seamless? You have got to be kidding me. That moronic system is enough to ensure I will never purchase anything iOS based.

Yeah I'm curious about this as well. Calling it a "seamless" way to send files is laughable. On android, I create a new email and can attach multiple files from there...that's seamless.

I wonder if it is even possible to attach multiple types of files to a single email using that "seamless" system.

 

[kubani1]

I don't get this. (Or similar virtually meaningless supposed 'benchmarks' of nothingness).

Why would I care about how "smoothly" Netflix scrolls vs. it opening the movie I want to see faster and playing on a larger/wider screen that I'd rather watch a movie on?

aside from the confusing sentence, i think i agree with you.

who cares about being able to watch netflix on a phone, despite how smooth or fast it is, you are still watching a movie on a 3 to 5 inch screen. THAT SUCKS. the only videos i have ever watched on my phone, are the occasional youtube videos when i'm stuck waiting somewhere.

disclaimer: i'm not sure i understood the above post correctly, so i'm just guessing that he meant watching a video on a phone sucks when compared to a tablet, or a computer, or a TV

 

[Zaap]

Yeah I'm curious about this as well. Calling it a "seamless" way to send files is laughable. On android, I create a new email and can attach multiple files from there...that's seamless.

There have been several times I've run into practical limitations on the iPhone that just left me scratching my head.

Perfect example- last week my wife was across town at a meeting, and she calls me needing a certain video to present via a projector. Someone there had their laptop hooked up to the projector, but not the video they needed, and no wifi. My wife wanted me to drive across town just to deliver the video on an SD card, and frankly, I didn't want to bother just for that.

Better idea: the video wasn't that big- about 10MB- I'll simply DropBox it. No wifi for the laptop, but my wife had her iPhone, plus her sync cable. Get the file from Dropbox- connect with the laptop (that thankfully did have iTunes) transfer the video file. I figured this should be simple.

With my Droid, it would have been easy.

She simply couldn't do it with the iPhone. Even when the file finally showed up in Dropbox for her (I uploaded with a desktop, and then purposefully put my Droid X on 3G to gauge how long it would take to see the 10MB file show up- for me it took a few minute, for her much longer, but that's another matter.)

Dropbox on Android: long press the file, dial pops up, option to download the file. Attach to ANY computer anywhere (no software needed) and the file is right on the SD card in the Downloads folder. Transfer. Done.

Dropbox on iPhone: No way in hell she, I, or the person with the laptop could figure out how to get the freakin' file from the iPhone to the computer. No long-press menu options for the file. Clicking it opens it, and then there's a copy link to clipboard option, but no way I know of to then download that link anywhere you need it to transfer the content. (Keep in mind during this I'm not holding the iPhone so I can't just experiment to find a way to make this work.)

So basically, such a simple task never got done, and the weak link was the iPhone.

I'm sure there must be a way to transfer a file from Dropbox on an iPhone to a computer, but in the above case if there is, it sure as hell isn't 'seamless'. All this attention to detail, and yet a practical real world task falls flat on its ass.

 

[Zaap]

disclaimer: i'm not sure i understood the above post correctly, so i'm just guessing that he meant watching a video on a phone sucks when compared to a tablet, or a computer, or a TV

(I do agree that video is better on a tablet or computer) But, no that wasn't my point. I was simply saying that scrolling the netflix app is a pretty meaningless 'benchmark' since that's hardly the point of it- watching movies is, and clearly the SGS2 was blazing fast at that.

I think we've gotten to the point where people will pretend to 'benchmark' the most meaningless bullshit just to claim victory of the benchmark itself, while forgetting that it has nothing what-so-ever to do with actually USING the device for an intended task.