Just upgraded to an iPhone 4s from a Droid Incredible

[OneOfTheseDays]

There is simply no comparison. This phone is in another class altogether.

I am a self-admitted Mac hater too. But I'm completely convinced Apple got it right when it comes to smart phones. Their completely walled off, tightly integrated eco-system works PERFECTLY in the mobile arena. This is exactly what people want, even power users like myself. I just want a phone that works right out the gate, I don't want to spend hours configuring my phone. I'm willing to do that for my desktop, but NOT for my phone.

I truly feel sad for anyone who thinks Android can even compare with this experience. Forget the benchmarks you dolts, it's all about usability and the ecosystem. Outside of MS, no other company is capable of pulling off what Apple has done with iOS and their iPhones.



I have some regrets that I didn't lock this thread yesterday. OneOfTheseDays, the way you wrote in the first two posts you made in this thread - calling people dolts, etc. - is pretty close to flamebait, and your second post... where you say that Android will never match iOS pretty much reads like trolling. You can critique the two platforms as you wish, but it's good to have threads that are productive and not yet another iOS vs. Android bash thread, and starting it off by expressing your pity for Android users is not a good way to start a productive discussion. Don't start another thread like this again, please, and consider yourself warned. Send me a private message if you wish to discuss this with me.

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[JuanJeremy]

can you be specific about what is so great about your new pet? i dont know anyone who spends hours configuring their droid. i have iphone 3gs and droidx and i definitely prefer android. there are other reasons to prefer android, like faster cpu's, much larger screens and lte

 

[s44]

So a phone released two weeks ago is better than a phone released a year and a half ago. Stop the presses.

Btw, sales figures show that being treated like a child is *not* exactly what people want.

 

[gsaldivar]

I truly feel sad for anyone who thinks Android can even compare with this experience. Forget the benchmarks you dolts, it's all about usability and the ecosystem.

600,000 people a day activate an Android device. Do you really think the majority of those are "dolts" comparing benchmarks?

 

[jpeyton]

So a phone released two weeks ago is better than a phone released a year and a half ago. Stop the presses.

Especially with how fast mobile tech hardware/software is advancing, a 17 month old phone is ancient.

A Droid Razr or Galaxy S II would be a fairer comparison.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

You still don't get it.

Android is fragmented. I had to fucking root my phone and put Cyanogen on it to get it to run at an acceptable level. There is no consistent UI experience with Android because Google didn't, and still doesn't, know how to emulate what MS and Apple have done for years.

Too much configurability is not a good thing on a mobile device. Some nerds may like it, but the vast majority of users don't have the time or patience. Having my apps force close on me is NOT ACCEPTABLE on a mobile device. This has never happened on my iPhone once.

Android CANNOT, DOES NOT, and WILL NEVER compare to the iOS experience. It's buggy, crashy, herky jerky, and not anywhere close to as integrated and polished as iOS is. You cannot debate this. This is fact.

 

[J-Money]

600,000 people a day activate an Android device. Do you really think the majority of those are "dolts" comparing benchmarks?

I bet of this 600,000 like 550,000 got Android because it was one of:

A) Free with contract
B) Cheap
C) Big Screen!
D) Apple Hate

The other 50,000 actually know how and want to customize a phone (me included).

Don't give too much credit to the general public on actually knowing any real differences between an IPhone and an Android phone. I bet 597,000 of them will never root it or even know what rooting is.

And for someone who doesn't want or care that much about customization an IPhone is generally a better choice, it's just easier.

Just an example, I'm on Rogers in Canada. If one is looking for a new smart phone and wants something recent, here is the choices and costs on a contract:

1. HTC EVO 3D - $0.01
2. LG Optimus 3D - $0.01
3. Galaxy S Infuse 4G - $0.01
4. Xperia Arc - $0.01
5. HTC Raider - $149.99

or

6. IPhone 4 - $99 / $199
7. IPhone 4S - $159 / $269 / $369

Want to guess how many choose one of the $0.01 phones as opposed to paying for an IPhone unless they specifically want an IPhone?

Don't like contracts?

Straight buy prices:

1. HTC EVO 3D - $549
2. LG Optimus 3D - $479
3. Galaxy S Infuse 4G - $549
4. Xperia Arc - $549
5. HTC Raider - $575


or


6. IPhone 4 - $549 / $549
7. IPhone 4S - $649 / $749/ $849

So the likely truth is - if you want an IPhone you get an IPhone, if you want an Android you get an Android, if you don't care and want something cheap you get an Android. Also if you are on a pre-paid service, many (up here at least) do not even offer the IPhone. So you get an Android.

EDIT: Make no mistake, if prices were equal I still think Android would be strong, and still probably have a slight edge, just not as strong as it is right now and more would tend to the IPhone than currently.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

So a phone released two weeks ago is better than a phone released a year and a half ago. Stop the presses.

Btw, sales figures show that being treated like a child is *not* exactly what people want.

this,

LOL

btw, my i7 920 is WAAAAY better than my Athlon, geez! How could anyone be so naive

 

[hans007]

i don't even get the whole "consistant" look and feel thing. if you take say an htc phone and just think of them as "an htc phone" they are all pretty consistant.

they all run apps from "an app store". hell at the rate its going phones from samsung will have as much market share as apple sometime next year. so would you be able to say all the "samsung phones" have a consistant look and feel? sure.

i mean if the complaint is that htc sense isn't consistant with samsung touch flo or stock android, well no shit really. but why does that even matter. ios isn't consistant with other phones either, but none of these interfaces is very hard to use, so its not like them not being consistant should be a big deal.

now if you actually like the particular implementation of a phone UI that apple has then ok that is a legitimate reason. but fragmentation of android UIs really doesn't matter if you are just using YOUR OWN phone. it still runs apps, its still runs things.

i prefer android greatly. mostly because i do not like apple. and this isnt just some blind hate, i've had several ipods and had a mac mini. in fact i was an apple mobile developer at my last job (which made me hate apple even more actaully). but if you like that ios has one button and a fairly childlike looking interface that anyone can use that is your prerogative. but don't make up a bunch of crap about i dont like android because its inconsistant. you did use your incredible for 18 months didn't you? and you rooted it and probably rom'd it, so that what the apps on it would look consistant?

and the "its a cheap phone on cheap carriers" argument is getting tired. android has several $300 on contract phones these days and more coming. and people are buying them. the cheaper carriers like virgin mobile / boost / cricket / metro pcs / tmobile don't have iphone. and uh how is that androids fault? isn't that apple's fault that they are willingly giving up market share? and how would apple having more market share make their phone better? do you only use things because everyone else uses them?

 

[RockinZ28]

There is simply no comparison. This phone is in another class altogether.

Could say I felt the same way moving from an Incredible to a Thundrbolt.

Everything ran faster, from web page scrolling to 3d gaming. LTE is infinitely better than 3g on Verizon. 4.3" screen is so much easier on the eyes.

Mac OS just doesn't click with me. Android felt natural from day one.

 

[her209]

People can just use their Android-based phone without configuring their desktops too.

 

[foghorn67]

You still don't get it.

Android is fragmented. I had to fucking root my phone and put Cyanogen on it to get it to run at an acceptable level. There is no consistent UI experience with Android because Google didn't, and still doesn't, know how to emulate what MS and Apple have done for years.

Too much configurability is not a good thing on a mobile device. Some nerds may like it, but the vast majority of users don't have the time or patience. Having my apps force close on me is NOT ACCEPTABLE on a mobile device. This has never happened on my iPhone once.

Android CANNOT, DOES NOT, and WILL NEVER compare to the iOS experience. It's buggy, crashy, herky jerky, and not anywhere close to as integrated and polished as iOS is. You cannot debate this. This is fact.

Load up some apps like I did, it WILL CHUG. IT WILL REQUIRE REBOOTS.
512MB of RAM is low these days, and it shows.
I have an iPhone, and was on Android.
I cannot wait to switch back. It feels like smartphone purgatory.
-can't change keyboards
-can't assign default programs for different files and actions
-grid o' icons like it's 1992.
-google navigation rocks

You obviously never tried the SGSII, that thing flies.
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[_Aurel_]

Thanks do letting us know how you feel. Since you became an internet expert on what mobile OS's people should use, can you recommend me the best position to sleep at night?

 

[Puddle Jumper]

You still don't get it.

Android is fragmented. I had to fucking root my phone and put Cyanogen on it to get it to run at an acceptable level. There is no consistent UI experience with Android because Google didn't, and still doesn't, know how to emulate what MS and Apple have done for years.

Too much configurability is not a good thing on a mobile device. Some nerds may like it, but the vast majority of users don't have the time or patience. Having my apps force close on me is NOT ACCEPTABLE on a mobile device. This has never happened on my iPhone once.

Android CANNOT, DOES NOT, and WILL NEVER compare to the iOS experience. It's buggy, crashy, herky jerky, and not anywhere close to as integrated and polished as iOS is. You cannot debate this. This is fact.

Guess what, HTC phones don't look like my Samsung phone and it doesn't affect me at all. Complaining about fragmentation is the easiest way to get me to dismiss your viewpoint outright as it isn't something has has any effect on the average user.

So you haven't had a force close in the two whole days you have had an iPhone? I haven't had one in the last 3 months of using my Captivate so therefore using your logic it is more stable than an iPhone.

Can you select a picture in your iPhone's gallery and pick whether to share it using Google+, Gmail, Dropbox, Bluetooth, MMS, Photobucket or Facebook all from a single menu without ever having to leave the Gallery app? How about select a contacts address from within the contact menu and have it automatically open in the navigation app or your choice? That is real integration and is something the iPhone will never have.

 

[Sind]

So called power user spending hours configuring a phone? Explain what exactly takes you hours? Enjoy the iPhone, seems like a perfect fit if your easily confused.

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[theeedude]

What the hell are you guys doing to your Android phones configuring them for hours? I got my Optumus V and the only thing I did is add a calendar widget on one of the screens and a quick settings app for WiFi tethering.

 

[zerocool84]

Millions of people all over the world seem to be using Android fine. Also, the top selling Android phones are always the most expensive ones. If you're happier then more power to you.

 

[homercles337]

I love how people claim to be power users, but want computers/devices to "just work." Hint: these things are in diametrical opposition.

 

[Mopetar]

What the hell are you guys doing to your Android phones configuring them for hours?

I have a friend who probably spends a few hours each week configuring his phone, but he likes to download the latest nightly release builds and toy around with different ROMs all the time. As strange as it may sound, some people like to toy around with the technology a lot, just like some people like to spend a lot of time working on old cars.

You don't need to spend hours configuring an Android phone, but you certainly can, and some people actually enjoy that kind of thing.

 

[theeedude]

I have a friend who probably spends a few hours each week configuring his phone, but he likes to download the latest nightly release builds and toy around with different ROMs all the time. As strange as it may sound, some people like to toy around with the technology a lot, just like some people like to spend a lot of time working on old cars.

You don't need to spend hours configuring an Android phone, but you certainly can, and some people actually enjoy that kind of thing.

Right, but I am assuming those people aren't going around whining that they are spending hours playing with their toys.

 

[uOpt]

Outside of MS, no other company is capable of pulling off what Apple has done with iOS and their iPhones.

Woah.

Seriously?

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Enjoy not being able to email attachments. How any iPhone user in the professional world finds this acceptable is beyond me.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I just went from an EVO to a 4S and agree it's night and day. I also understand my EVO was pretty old. To be honest I'm just happy to try something new which also happens to be something that has a pretty damn good user experience going for it.

 

[goog40]

So a phone released two weeks ago is better than a phone released a year and a half ago. Stop the presses.

Btw, sales figures show that being treated like a child is *not* exactly what people want.

Wait a minute, wasn't everyone complaining that the 4S is the same as the iPhone 4 which was released a year and a half ago?

Dual-core versus single-core CPU probably isn't a huge difference in most usage since iOS runs so smoothly to begin with, though I'm sure the GPU improvements are huge for games that take advantage of it.

 

[Dulanic]

Enjoy not being able to email attachments. How any iPhone user in the professional world finds this acceptable is beyond me.

I've used a iphone but not on a consistent basis.... Can you seriously not attach files to email? I just can't believe that can be true....