Just how bad is the Pentium D?

[orangat]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
Read the reviews.......it's good for some things and pretty awful for othes.

imo.

Is there anything the X2 is bad at?

Price

Agreed.
If you are planning to spend more than $300 for just the cpu, then get an X2. There really is no downside since its faster in every way and runs cooler.

There might be some problems in games so you'll have to temporarily disable one core using a utility. The newest Nvidia drivers seem to use the extra capacity of the 2nd core.

But if you don't want to spend that much then get a single core AMD.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: orangat

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
Read the reviews.......it's good for some things and pretty awful for othes.

imo.

Is there anything the X2 is bad at?

Price

Agreed.
If you are planning to spend more than $300 for just the cpu, then get an X2. There really is no downside since its faster in every way and runs cooler.

There might be some problems in games so you'll have to temporarily disable one core using a utility. The newest Nvidia drivers seem to use the extra capacity of the 2nd core.

But if you don't want to spend that much then get a single core AMD.

Dude. Don't talk about crap you don't know. Just as long as you patch your system, ALL GAMES WILL WORK FINE! I don't know how many times that has to be said...

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: VivienM
Okay, I'll admit it... I'm a hardcore Intel fan.

You've got some guts coming in here announcing that :laugh:

How bad is the D? Well, it could be worse. But that's not saying much.

 

[orangat]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: orangat

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
Read the reviews.......it's good for some things and pretty awful for othes.

imo.

Is there anything the X2 is bad at?

Price

Agreed.
If you are planning to spend more than $300 for just the cpu, then get an X2. There really is no downside since its faster in every way and runs cooler.

There might be some problems in games so you'll have to temporarily disable one core using a utility. The newest Nvidia drivers seem to use the extra capacity of the 2nd core.
But if you don't want to spend that much then get a single core AMD.

Dude. Don't talk about crap you don't know. Just as long as you patch your system, ALL GAMES WILL WORK FINE! I don't know how many times that has to be said...

You call all the problems people are having even after patching crap then?
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=27&threadid=1662743&enterthread=y

 

[H0witzer]

I have a P4 D 830 and here is what I can tell you. It runs hot... really hot. I have water cooling and still am modifying my system to cool it more. But that again... I want it to run cool.

As for how it perfoms. General multitasking and business ops, it's great, it's so fast it would make your head spin, just none of the normal lag when multitasking.

As for gaming, AMD has Intel whopped, I don't think there is much question there, but this processor does still make for very playable games. My framerates are not insane but they are good. Once you have a good video card and frame rates are high enough, I don't know if you can really see the difference. So far I have had no lag or anything like that at all.

 

[Leper Messiah]

What problems? Its some thread thats two frickin' months old. Microsoft has released a hot fix that has solved all the problems.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
What problems? Its some thread thats two frickin' months old. Microsoft has released a hot fix that has solved all the problems.

QFT...those problems with the Intel and AMD dualcores are completely fixed now...

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
What problems? Its some thread thats two frickin' months old. Microsoft has released a hot fix that has solved all the problems.

QFT...those problems with the Intel and AMD dualcores are completely fixed now...

The only problem left is the trolls who keep bring it up as a problem !

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: orangat
You call all the problems people are having even after patching crap then?
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=27&threadid=1662743&enterthread=y

Are those issues applicable to all dual-core chips, though, which is what it sounds like (except there are no P-D users around to confirm it), or just AMDs?

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Just how bad is the Pentium D?

It killed my Mother! It killed my Father! It took my father's sword!

P-D is not bad its just that the X2 are better.
Heat is its main reason

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Cooler

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Just how bad is the Pentium D?

It killed my Mother! It killed my Father! It took my father's sword!

P-D is not bad its just that the X2 are better.
Heat is its main reason

And performance compared to the X2 is dismal.

 

[fatty4ksu]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: orangat

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
Read the reviews.......it's good for some things and pretty awful for othes.

imo.

Is there anything the X2 is bad at?

Price

Agreed.
If you are planning to spend more than $300 for just the cpu, then get an X2. There really is no downside since its faster in every way and runs cooler.

There might be some problems in games so you'll have to temporarily disable one core using a utility. The newest Nvidia drivers seem to use the extra capacity of the 2nd core.

But if you don't want to spend that much then get a single core AMD.

Dude. Don't talk about crap you don't know. Just as long as you patch your system, ALL GAMES WILL WORK FINE! I don't know how many times that has to be said...

Not true at all. It's a serious issue w/the X2 chips. Changining affinity for games is annoying.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: orangat

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
Read the reviews.......it's good for some things and pretty awful for othes.

imo.

Is there anything the X2 is bad at?

Price

Agreed.
If you are planning to spend more than $300 for just the cpu, then get an X2. There really is no downside since its faster in every way and runs cooler.

There might be some problems in games so you'll have to temporarily disable one core using a utility. The newest Nvidia drivers seem to use the extra capacity of the 2nd core.

But if you don't want to spend that much then get a single core AMD.

Dude. Don't talk about crap you don't know. Just as long as you patch your system, ALL GAMES WILL WORK FINE! I don't know how many times that has to be said...

Not true at all. It's a serious issue w/the X2 chips. Changining affinity for games is annoying.

BS. The hotfix and the X2 driver fixed for anybody that knows how to install software correctly on a computer. Shut up fatty !

 

[Aenslead]

Ignorance is a hobby for you, eh?

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: slash196
I don't think you're going to be able to go 3 weeks without rebooting. Just give up the dream, man.

Nonsense. My X2 system with Windows XP Pro has made it a month without rebooting, until I had to reboot to install something. As much as people talk about them, I have yet to encounter any of these supposed "AMD stability issues."

Thus, it goes without saying that I am quite satisfied with my decision to purchase an Athlon X2 4400+. I'm sure that for what you'll be doing, you could be satisfied with the P4 830D as well, because the slower speed and higher heat output should really have a noticeable effect on the everyday operation of the system. Nonetheless, the only thing better than an X2 in the workstation PC world today would be dual dual core Opterons, and for me personally - and dare I say, most members here - the only purpose for such a beast, could I afford one, would be for bragging rights.

 

[Duvie]

Mine was on for 5 weeks straight until wife moved PC tower and the keyboard plug came undone and started beeping at her....She shut it down thinking she F'd something up, but I got hiome restarted it and now 2 more weeks non sto[p...


Between Fatty and others, I would say likely 70% of the ppl in here talk at their arse....

Fatty most issues have been resolved...

Challenge number 2 for your big mouth in the last 3 days (we know how the last one ended)...

Give me list of games with issues right now and links to thread where we can identify X2 driver was installed, fresh OS install, All game patches installed, full bios support for mobo, MS hotfix...

Which for anyone with half a brain the MS hotfix and its success around the net should have concluded this is an issue with the OS and software...Again anyone with half a brain....I have now played about 7 games with no issues....

NFS underground 2
MOTOGP 3
Nascar Thunder
Lego Star wars
Sim City 4
NBA live 2004
Flat out

all work fine and all have been ran with F@H running in the backrground 24/7...

 

[Markfw]

Thanks Duvie. I was going to try and run WC3 on my 820d sysem, I installed it, but it says can;t initialize directx. Could be that POS Diamond S3 virge 2 meg video card. I really don;t want to tear apart 2 computers to put my X300SE in it, but I may later today if I get bored. The X2 works perfectly in W2K or XP on WC3. in W2K, you have to set affinity, since there is no X2 patch or hotfix.

aneslead, who were you referring to in your ignorance comment ?

 

[fatty4ksu]

LOL...a fresh windows install is the way to solve this embarrassing problem?

LOL

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
LOL...a fresh windows install is the way to solve this embarrassing problem?

LOL

Its part of many things that have worked in conjunction...BUT...Like usual you have not paid attention for months on this issue....I know your computer expertise is extremely limited so I will give you a break....However take my challenge and try to once again prove your rlentless FUD!!!!

It is almost getting embarassing for you...I however think you do it on purpose and may not be this dumb...MAYBE!!!

 

[Markfw]

Just learned one more thing. My Fortron 450 is not enough power for this beast ! When I tried to install an ATI X300SE (the slowest and cheapest PCI express card I could find) instead of the PCI 2 meg card I had in it, I had to reduce my OC to get it to boot. It worked fine in my X2 3800@2550 on an Antec 380 true power, but in here I need more power !!!! So with a 7800 or 6800GT I would imagine you would need a 600 watt PSU minimum !!!!! Thats pathetic IMO.

 

[carlosd]

Don't listen fatty he said that a P4 1.8GHz was faster in encoding than an A64, he's a TROLL.

 

[Garster]

I'm still running a couple P4 HT Northwood systems, they still serve my purpose. But if i was upgrading I would not even think of an Intel system at this time. AMD's offering right now are superior in just about every way, the X2 is the way to go.

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: Garster
I'm still running a couple P4 HT Northwood systems, they still serve my purpose. But if i was upgrading I would not even think of an Intel system at this time. AMD's offering right now are superior in just about every way, the X2 is the way to go.

Okay, I think I've been almost convinced at this point... The fact that the nF4 boards have two PATA channels (as opposed to the i9xx's silly one) is a nice bonus, since it means recycling some of the many PATA drives I have all over the place .

That being said, I'm hoping that the price on the X2 will fall a bit, because right now it's looking like a 3800+ X2, a gig or two of DDR 400 (is there a good reason for buying the dual channel kits?), a decent case/PS, a decently roomy SATA HD, an X-Fi Platinum or so, and a 7800GT is a tad outside my budget.

Also, I should probably start a thread in the mobo forum, but any suggestions on a good, solid, relatively inexpensive board (ideally Abit, DFI, MSI, Asus, or Gigabyte, as other brands seem to be harder to find up here)? Don't want SLI, overclockability, or good onboard audio, but do want stability and reliability... so thinking about nF4 Ultra boards, but not sure which?

 

[Viditor]

any suggestions on a good, solid, relatively inexpensive board (ideally Abit, DFI, MSI, Asus, or Gigabyte, as other brands seem to be harder to find up here)? Don't want SLI, overclockability, or good onboard audio, but do want stability and reliability

Asus A8N-E

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Just how bad is the Pentium D?

It killed my Mother! It killed my Father! It took my father's sword!

Did it have 6 fingers?