Just heard on the radio: Ben Roethlisberger crashed his bike on 10th street bridge

[Kalvin00]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
, motorcycles are dangerous...more dangerous then other vehicles. And thats their appeal.

umm...no, not even close.

Originally posted by: PingSpike
All wearing a helmet does is slightly reduce the incidence of death after an accident.

Pretty sure I remember reading a helmet is something like 60% effective at reducing or eliminating severe head injuries in crashes..

Originally posted by: PingSpike
The helmet isn't going to stop him from destroying his leg, or shoulder or hands...

No, but any good leather jacket/gloves/etc would.

 

[Kalvin00]

Originally posted by: r6ashih
no one noticed the chicken strips on the rear wheel?? they're 4 inches are each side.

The dude started on a Busa (or I assume. I didn't notice past riding experience posted in the article)...what do you expect? A newb would be so afraid they wouldn't dare lean over..

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
More cops enforcing stupid seat belt laws means more tax dollars for you and more money. This stupid raises insurance premiums argument is ridiculous.

You probably complain about SUV drivers who use more gas and increase demand for gas and therefore raise gas prices too huh? Thus, SUVs should be outlawed and the government should be able to tell people they can't drive what they want to drive.

It's amazing that people are willing to give up personal freedoms and allow the government to regulate and enforce things that they should stay out of.

Last I checked, seatbelt tickets MADE money.

And how do you THINK insurance premiums are determined/adjusted?:roll:

 

[herbiehancock]

Geez.......riding a Suzuki Hayabusa without a helmet. Winner!!

Steelers' next season.....losing and no Super Bowl repeat.

 

[Alprazolam]

Just another way to let the cops in our car...

 

[CrazyDe1]

Originally posted by: r6ashih
no one noticed the chicken strips on the rear wheel?? they're 4 inches are each side.

I actually did...but I judge how good a rider is by how his tires look...

 

[dethman]

hey i used to work at that hospital.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: CrazyDe1

More cops enforcing stupid seat belt laws means more tax dollars for you and more money. This stupid raises insurance premiums argument is ridiculous.

You probably complain about SUV drivers who use more gas and increase demand for gas and therefore raise gas prices too huh? Thus, SUVs should be outlawed and the government should be able to tell people they can't drive what they want to drive.

It's amazing that people are willing to give up personal freedoms and allow the government to regulate and enforce things that they should stay out of.

Fine, drive without a seatbelt or ride without a helmet. When you die, I'll try to be at your funeral to say I told you so. All the other stuff aside, WHO CARES if it "infringes on your rights" to make you do it? There's no reasonable excuse not to anyway, so what's the big deal?

PS - yea, SUV analogy, grea thinkin, really applies to nothing in this thread. It was an admirable try though.

 

[eits]

Roethlisberger's 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa, which is named after a Japanese bird of prey, was totaled.

dan brown? is that you?

 

[eits]

Eyewitnesses tell KDKA that Roethlisberger had a green light and was headed eastbound on Second Avenue when a car turned into his path near the 10th Street Bridge around 11:30am.

that dude is either going to be left homeless after ben takes all the money he's ever had or he's gonna be killed by steelers fans once his name gets out.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: eits

Eyewitnesses tell KDKA that Roethlisberger had a green light and was headed eastbound on Second Avenue when a car turned into his path near the 10th Street Bridge around 11:30am.

that dude is either going to be left homeless after ben takes all the money he's ever had or he's gonna be killed by steelers fans once his name gets out.

That dude was a 63 y/o woman

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: eits

Eyewitnesses tell KDKA that Roethlisberger had a green light and was headed eastbound on Second Avenue when a car turned into his path near the 10th Street Bridge around 11:30am.

that dude is either going to be left homeless after ben takes all the money he's ever had or he's gonna be killed by steelers fans once his name gets out.

That dude was a 63 y/o woman

how motherfvcking typical... a geezer who doesn't know how to drive.

go go anti-geezer driving laws!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
After I moved to Ohio I found it odd that there were so many people riding around on their motorcycles without a helmet. I grew up in Michigan where there was law requiring people to wear a helmet when riding. That law should apply for the whole nation.

WTF difference does it make to you?

compassion for fellow human beings maybe?

Restricting someone's rights, even under the excuse that you're doing it "for their protection", is never the right thing to do.

It's stupid not to wear a helmet, but people have free will. It's also stupid to eat red meat and Cinnabon all day, but it's your right to do so, and some people do eat themselves to death. Do we really need laws to protect people from themselves? That's just ridiculous. Let natural selection runs its course.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
After I moved to Ohio I found it odd that there were so many people riding around on their motorcycles without a helmet. I grew up in Michigan where there was law requiring people to wear a helmet when riding. That law should apply for the whole nation.

WTF difference does it make to you?

compassion for fellow human beings maybe?

Restricting someone's rights, even under the excuse that you're doing it "for their protection", is never the right thing to do.

It's stupid not to wear a helmet, but people have free will. It's also stupid to eat red meat and Cinnabon all day, but it's your right to do so, and some people do eat themselves to death. Do we really need laws to protect people from themselves? That's just ridiculous. Let natural selection runs its course.

If some idiot biker crashes into my hood, I'd prefer that he live so I don't have to live with accidentally killing someone.

Plus it might save the taxpayer quite a bit. The average motorcycle accident costs $100,000 in medical fees.. The required insurance if you're not wearing a helmet in Texas is $10,000.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
After I moved to Ohio I found it odd that there were so many people riding around on their motorcycles without a helmet. I grew up in Michigan where there was law requiring people to wear a helmet when riding. That law should apply for the whole nation.

WTF difference does it make to you?

compassion for fellow human beings maybe?

Restricting someone's rights, even under the excuse that you're doing it "for their protection", is never the right thing to do.

It's stupid not to wear a helmet, but people have free will. It's also stupid to eat red meat and Cinnabon all day, but it's your right to do so, and some people do eat themselves to death. Do we really need laws to protect people from themselves? That's just ridiculous. Let natural selection runs its course.

If some idiot biker crashes into my hood, I'd prefer that he live so I don't have to live with accidentally killing someone.

Plus it might save the taxpayer quite a bit. The average motorcycle accident costs $100,000 in medical fees.. The required insurance if you're not wearing a helmet in Texas is $10,000.

Nice copout

 

[TheSlamma]

In todays day and age I don't see why anyone would drive without full armor on a bike let alone a helmit. It's already scary enough to be in a car with all these cell phone psychos all over the place in their SUV's as it is, then you add these old people who can't see over the dash and the rice boys racing around everywhere. All these things are punchlines of how bad the roads are.

Hope he gets better soon though

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe


If some idiot biker crashes into my hood, I'd prefer that he live so I don't have to live with accidentally killing someone.

Plus it might save the taxpayer quite a bit. The average motorcycle accident costs $100,000 in medical fees.. The required insurance if you're not wearing a helmet in Texas is $10,000.

You cannot directly take someone's rights away just because it may indirectly affect you. That's just not a valid way of thinking. If you allowed that to apply, you'd quickly see everyone's rights taken away since someone else is always indirectly affected.

If you apply that kind of logic, you'd agree with militant vegans who say that meat-eating should be banned because it's been proven to cause heart disease.

I agree that it does cause heart disease, but that's my decision to make.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe


If some idiot biker crashes into my hood, I'd prefer that he live so I don't have to live with accidentally killing someone.

Plus it might save the taxpayer quite a bit. The average motorcycle accident costs $100,000 in medical fees.. The required insurance if you're not wearing a helmet in Texas is $10,000.

You cannot directly take someone's rights away just because it may indirectly affect you. That's just not a valid way of thinking. If you allowed that to apply, you'd quickly see everyone's rights taken away since someone else is always indirectly affected.

If you apply that kind of logic, you'd agree with militant vegans who say that meat-eating should be banned because it's been proven to cause heart disease.

I agree that it does cause heart disease, but that's my decision to make.

What right. There is no right to ride a bike so the goverment can put any conditions it wants onto riding a bike including requiring a helmet,

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: smack Down

What right. There is no right to ride a bike so the goverment can put any conditions it wants onto riding a bike including requiring a helmet,

I am talking about a general concept, and not focusing on one particular issue.

My point is that people seem to be very eager to give up someone else's rights, and won't complain until it is they who are being discriminated against. Someone with more foresight would see the longer-term implications and would resist the unnecessary abridgement of one's rights, even if you have no personal interest in them.

I see this crap everyday, even now we have our incredibly dumb president trying to stop gays from ever getting married. I'm not gay, don't really have many gay friends, yet I can still see that giving someone else a right is not harming me, while restricting their rights hurts us all.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe


If some idiot biker crashes into my hood, I'd prefer that he live so I don't have to live with accidentally killing someone.

Plus it might save the taxpayer quite a bit. The average motorcycle accident costs $100,000 in medical fees.. The required insurance if you're not wearing a helmet in Texas is $10,000.

You cannot directly take someone's rights away just because it may indirectly affect you. That's just not a valid way of thinking. If you allowed that to apply, you'd quickly see everyone's rights taken away since someone else is always indirectly affected.

If you apply that kind of logic, you'd agree with militant vegans who say that meat-eating should be banned because it's been proven to cause heart disease.

I agree that it does cause heart disease, but that's my decision to make.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

choosing to wear or not wear a helmet is an essential liberty???

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Number1

choosing to wear or not wear a helmet is an essential liberty???

Narrow minded much? You can't quite see the big picture, can you, kid?

I don't ride a motorcycle, and if I did I'd wear a helmet and pads. But I support citizen's rights, and think the current trend of restricting people's rights unless given out by the government to be disgusting. Even more disgusting is the idiotic people who can't see the big picture. And yes, that means you, Corky.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1

choosing to wear or not wear a helmet is an essential liberty???

Narrow minded much? You can't quite see the big picture, can you, kid?

Stupid much?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
After I moved to Ohio I found it odd that there were so many people riding around on their motorcycles without a helmet. I grew up in Michigan where there was law requiring people to wear a helmet when riding. That law should apply for the whole nation.

WTF difference does it make to you?

compassion for fellow human beings maybe?

Restricting someone's rights, even under the excuse that you're doing it "for their protection", is never the right thing to do.

It's stupid not to wear a helmet, but people have free will. It's also stupid to eat red meat and Cinnabon all day, but it's your right to do so, and some people do eat themselves to death. Do we really need laws to protect people from themselves? That's just ridiculous. Let natural selection runs its course.

If some idiot biker crashes into my hood, I'd prefer that he live so I don't have to live with accidentally killing someone.

Plus it might save the taxpayer quite a bit. The average motorcycle accident costs $100,000 in medical fees.. The required insurance if you're not wearing a helmet in Texas is $10,000.

yup.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1

choosing to wear or not wear a helmet is an essential liberty???

Narrow minded much? You can't quite see the big picture, can you, kid?

Stupid much?

Wow, I haven't heard a comeback as clever as that since Pee Wee Herman said "I know you are but what am I?"

Update: I see you're from Canada. WTF are you doing arguing about US state laws?

 

[m2kewl]

ben is a dumbass! wtf was he thinking not wearing a helmet???

what a tool.