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DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

What about illegal substances?

Read the thread. I already stated my opinion on that. I'm sure you could probably guess it.

Indulge me, this thread is full of other unrealated discussions.

I don't think they should be illegal.

For reasons of personal freedom or to end the criminal control of the trade?
 

CKDragon

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I know his health status far outweighs this, but it just occurred to me that he seemed to be in a TON of TV advertisements.

I'm sure he'll spend a lot of time in the plastic surgery chair before filming anything new for Nike...

CK
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: CKDragon
I know his health status far outweighs this, but it just occurred to me that he seemed to be in a TON of TV advertisements.

I'm sure he'll spend a lot of time in the plastic surgery chair before filming anything new for Nike...

CK

He was actually set to begin shooting his "Campbell's Chunky" soup commercials with his mom tomorrow. :\
 

DougK62

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Mar 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

What about illegal substances?

Read the thread. I already stated my opinion on that. I'm sure you could probably guess it.

Indulge me, this thread is full of other unrealated discussions.

I don't think they should be illegal.

For reasons of personal freedom or to end the criminal control of the trade?

For the former. I think the latter is a good argument for it, though.

 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: CKDragon
I know his health status far outweighs this, but it just occurred to me that he seemed to be in a TON of TV advertisements.

I'm sure he'll spend a lot of time in the plastic surgery chair before filming anything new for Nike...

CK

He was actually set to begin shooting his "Campbell's Chunky" soup commercials with his mom tomorrow. :\

I think he could still do the commercial:

"Thunky Thicken Thoup... thrink it through a sthraw!"

 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: CKDragon
I know his health status far outweighs this, but it just occurred to me that he seemed to be in a TON of TV advertisements.

I'm sure he'll spend a lot of time in the plastic surgery chair before filming anything new for Nike...

CK

He was actually set to begin shooting his "Campbell's Chunky" soup commercials with his mom tomorrow. :\

I think he could still do the commercial:

"Thunky Thicken Thoup... thrink it through a sthraw!"

And I still think your comments in this thread make you look like an asshat. IMO of course!
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

What about illegal substances?

Read the thread. I already stated my opinion on that. I'm sure you could probably guess it.

Indulge me, this thread is full of other unrealated discussions.

I don't think they should be illegal.

For reasons of personal freedom or to end the criminal control of the trade?

This is apples and oranges. Helmet laws only have fines attached to them. Drug laws = jail time. The drug war is far worse for our rights as citizens than helmet laws. I support helmet laws, but not the drug war. Helmet laws DO NOT infringe upon your rights because they are not a serious nuissance. It's just a freaking helmet.
 

TheNinja

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As a former street bike rider I feel bad for the guy. Doesn't seem like it was his fault. And I can say that I didn't always wear my helmet in town going slow but always did on the highway. However that was when I was a 18-20, not a grown man who makes a living having a healthy body.

Say what you want, but wearing a helmet could have prevented the facial injuries like lacerations and broken facial bones. His knees might be messed up yet but then again, if you ride bike a lot you really NEED to have the full leather/knee/elbow/etc protective gear on.
 

toekramp

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Jun 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

What about illegal substances?

Read the thread. I already stated my opinion on that. I'm sure you could probably guess it.

Indulge me, this thread is full of other unrealated discussions.

I don't think they should be illegal.

For reasons of personal freedom or to end the criminal control of the trade?

This is apples and oranges. Helmet laws only have fines attached to them. Drug laws = jail time. The drug war is far worse for our rights as citizens than helmet laws. I support helmet laws, but not the drug war. Helmet laws DO NOT infringe upon your rights because they are not a serious nuissance. It's just a freaking helmet.

only things that are serious nuissances can infringe on my rights?
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Yes, all pro-athletes should live in padded containers in a near-catatonic state during the off-seasons, so as to not jeopardize their team's chances by engaging in silly things such as "having a life" or "enjoying themselves." What, do they think they're supposed to enjoy those $$$ millions they've earned?

:roll:

he wasn't wearing a helmet. go troll somewhere else. he is an idiot.
Trolling? :confused: Take your hyper-sensitivity and holier-than-thou ego and shove them up your ass, Nancy-boy. :lips:

When the original thread was posted, there was no mention of him not wearing helmet. The OP simply refered to him as a 'retard' for driving a motorcycle and having an accident, causing him to "blow the season." His outrage was entirely based on him not liking the idea that a pro-athlete was engaging in potentially hazardous activities off the field.

My point still stands. He an individual. Driving a cycle without a helmet may be patently stupid, but it's his call, not yours. Just because you see him on TV doesn't mean the man owes you people anything, especially his own personally safety; and the OP and others who think differently are just as retarded as him.

You people need to get over you childish hero-worshipping, or at least transfer your adoration to someone worthwhile, rather than a dumb-as-a-brick football star. Either that, or lower you expectations a few notches. :roll:
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

What about illegal substances?

Read the thread. I already stated my opinion on that. I'm sure you could probably guess it.

Indulge me, this thread is full of other unrealated discussions.

I don't think they should be illegal.

For reasons of personal freedom or to end the criminal control of the trade?

This is apples and oranges. Helmet laws only have fines attached to them. Drug laws = jail time. The drug war is far worse for our rights as citizens than helmet laws. I support helmet laws, but not the drug war. Helmet laws DO NOT infringe upon your rights because they are not a serious nuissance. It's just a freaking helmet.

only things that are serious nuissances can infringe on my rights?

Dude, he runs around on grass with a helmet on, but on a motorbike it is too much for him to handle?!
 

jagec

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Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: CKDragon
Originally posted by: r6ashih
no one noticed the chicken strips on the rear wheel?? they're 4 inches are each side.

Heh, I had to wikipedia "chicken strips" to know what you were talking about, so obviously I don't have any knowledge to add to that topic.

I'd like to know what conclusions others draw from that bit of information. Is it possible that it was just a brand new bike (considering his $$$, not inconceivable) or is the middle part of the tread too worn down for that? Does it show that, other than the incredibly stupid no helmet idiocy, he actually was a safe rider?

CK

Brand new bike is a possibility. However, wide chicken strips don't necessarily indicate a safe rider...just an unconfident one.

Unlike cars, people who ride bikes usually do it for the love of it, which means that the more experience you get, the more you learn to lean. Wide strips could mean a new bike, a new rider, or an unconfident rider, but I certainly wouldn't correlate them with safety, anymore than I would a car with very little brake wear.
 

zainali

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was this the final year of his contract? if the injuries are serious how much will he lose? about $30 million guaranteed (compared to vick and manning). he did win the superbowl for one reason or another.
 

CrazyDe1

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
I can't believe people favor helmet (and seatbelt) laws. I guess you don't mind the government jumping into your personal life where they don't belong, but a lot of people do. Just think of all of the useful things our police officers could be doing instead of enforcing these silly laws...

Grow up.

Nice job on that intelligent reply. You must be in favor of the Patriot Act, too. These things are about as un-American as you can get. But I guess I need to "grow up" and not value my rights :roll:

Your rights? Did you just equate helmet laws to the patriot act? Are you really that stupid?

Here's a scenario: you get in an accident with no helmet, so do several of your idiot buddies. You all have the same health insurance as me. You each have million dollar insurance bills because of those accidents. My premiums go up. Your stupidity is costing ME money.

Thus, not only do these laws save lives, they prevent me from paying for your stupidity.

Simple logic boy.

More cops enforcing stupid seat belt laws means more tax dollars for you and more money. This stupid raises insurance premiums argument is ridiculous.

You probably complain about SUV drivers who use more gas and increase demand for gas and therefore raise gas prices too huh? Thus, SUVs should be outlawed and the government should be able to tell people they can't drive what they want to drive.

It's amazing that people are willing to give up personal freedoms and allow the government to regulate and enforce things that they should stay out of.
 

PoPPeR

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Oct 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Complete chat transcript.

thanks for this, reading it now, so far doesn't sound as serious as some of the rumors but you never know I guess.

Here's to hoping he'll just end up with an ugly (uglier?) mug to match (or surpass) Jack Lambert ;)
the fact that within the first 5 questions or so, the reporter says the bike was a harley davidson and ben's knees weren't involved kinda makes you stop reading
 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Yes, all pro-athletes should live in padded containers in a near-catatonic state during the off-seasons, so as to not jeopardize their team's chances by engaging in silly things such as "having a life" or "enjoying themselves." What, do they think they're supposed to enjoy those $$$ millions they've earned?

:roll:

he wasn't wearing a helmet. go troll somewhere else. he is an idiot.

Wearing a helmet in PA is not a law, it is completely optional.

It is also completely fvcking stupid.


 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

What about illegal substances?

Read the thread. I already stated my opinion on that. I'm sure you could probably guess it.

Indulge me, this thread is full of other unrealated discussions.

I don't think they should be illegal.

For reasons of personal freedom or to end the criminal control of the trade?

This is apples and oranges. Helmet laws only have fines attached to them. Drug laws = jail time. The drug war is far worse for our rights as citizens than helmet laws. I support helmet laws, but not the drug war. Helmet laws DO NOT infringe upon your rights because they are not a serious nuissance. It's just a freaking helmet.

only things that are serious nuissances can infringe on my rights?

The state must balance individuals' rights and freedoms with public safety and order. Requiring that bikers wear helmets does not seriously infringe upon their rights, while it saves lives. Last I looked, there is no "right to ride around on a motorcycle without a helmet like a total freaking idiot." The right to privacy doesn't even cover it. There are absolutely NO problems associated with motorcycle helmet laws, while there are serious side effects associated with the drug war.
 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: MrBond
Originally posted by: Deeko
I like how he has publicly said to reporters that he rides his bike often & doesn't wear a helmet. He said that after the whole Kellen Winslow fiasco. Looks like he ain't the only one...
This is a slightly different case - Kellen Winslow was (most likely) a brand new rider and was trying to pop wheelies on his brand new bike. Rothlisberger has been riding a while it sounds like and the accident may not have been his fault. I'm sure this will get tons of media coverage, so we'll surely find out.

Regardless, not wearing a helmet is not wearing a helmet. If it wasn't his fault, this is a PERFECT example of that - no matter how experienced you are, you could still end up face-first in a windshield, or worse.

Eh...I'm torn on this. Its not like putting a helmet on makes you invincible on the motorcycle. Lets face it, motorcycles are dangerous...more dangerous then other vehicles. And thats their appeal. All wearing a helmet does is slightly reduce the incidence of death after an accident. The helmet isn't going to stop him from destroying his leg, or shoulder or hands...which could all potentially end his career just as quickly as the old watermelon meets pavement routine.

Slightly reduce the chance of death?

Are you that fvcking dense? :roll: