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ChiPCGuy

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Actually, dieting and exercise are both perfectly effective alone, though better in combination, but it is long-term lifestyle changes that lead to long-term weight-loss.

Every diet on the planet will let you lose 20 pounds in the blink of an eye, but to keep the weight off, you have to change your lifestyle permanently.

Unfortunately, it does take some personal responsibility *gasp!* and not a copout of "I cant" "I wont" "Supersize Bigmac please" "mental illness".


With each post you keep revealing your ignorance. I am shocked by how little thought you put into what you are saying.

I never said people should shirk personal responsibility. I took full control and full responsibility for what I did. So stop trying to hang your hat on that one. It is not a personal responsibility thing.

And give me a break--just how does someone get to 700lbs? Mental illness. Duh. I am not talking about an extra 20lbs. I am talking about MORBID OBESITY. OBESITY THAT WILL LEAD TO DEATH IN SHORT ORDER. Lack of self-control is only the symptom of the mental illness I am describing.
 

ChiPCGuy

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: alchemize
So make it about cents, and maybe couch potatoes will get some sense. The only thing that comes between a man and his fried cheese curds is his wallet.

I think sense is more important then cents. If you want to single out groups then fine, let's start the insanity. Anybody who gets AIDS is on their own damit, anybody who fries their liver is own their own. If you've got bad genes in your family why should I have to pay for your aleriges/ailments/heart transplant/bypasses?? It's not my problem.

I could go on and on and on.

We single out younger/ticketed/risky/male drivers for car insurance. What's the problem?


Younger, ticketed, risky male drivers are not suffering from a fundamental mental health issue.

Some people have naturally slower reflexes/less coordination than others.


That does not equate to a fundamental health issue. Try again.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: alchemize
So make it about cents, and maybe couch potatoes will get some sense. The only thing that comes between a man and his fried cheese curds is his wallet.

I think sense is more important then cents. If you want to single out groups then fine, let's start the insanity. Anybody who gets AIDS is on their own damit, anybody who fries their liver is own their own. If you've got bad genes in your family why should I have to pay for your aleriges/ailments/heart transplant/bypasses?? It's not my problem.

I could go on and on and on.

We single out younger/ticketed/risky/male drivers for car insurance. What's the problem?

Quite frankly, YOU and others like you.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
I notice that Zendari is not bothering to reply to the one person in this thread who has been to "hell and back" on this issue and brings true insight into what is going on. Perhaps because I am gay? Hmmmmm.

Ignorance prefers to remain status-quo: ignorant. No matter the subject. Anything else requires critical thinking and challenging your own assumptions.

I wish Zentroll would answer you also.

Thanks for sharing your story. I have a brother who has always been heavy, currently over 400 pounds. About 2 years ago I got up to 285 pounds myself. He and I went on a diet together and lost 50 pounds each in a year, but then he just couldn't do it anymore. I held my weight off, but gained back 5 to 10 pounds over this winter, but he has gained almost all of his weight back.

He wants to get the gastric bypass operation, but his insurance company refuses to pay for it, they call it "cosmetic". He's a machinist and on his feet all day long on cement and they call it "cosmetic"?? Right. Since his employer is "self-insured" they are basically saying they would rather he has to quit or dies of a heart attack rather then pay for an operation. Isn't that a nice way to treat an employee of 28 years.

The point is that I know from close personal experience that everything you've spoken of in here is true.
 

ChiPCGuy

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Actually, dieting and exercise are both perfectly effective alone, though better in combination, but it is long-term lifestyle changes that lead to long-term weight-loss.

Every diet on the planet will let you lose 20 pounds in the blink of an eye, but to keep the weight off, you have to change your lifestyle permanently.


QFT. I will forever be fat in my mind. It is a life-long change and BATTLE that will NEVER stop.

I still have not fully gotten over the "disconnect" between what I look like and what I think I look like. It might be hard to understand, so let me give two examples:

1. When I go to restaurants I still ask for a table instead of a booth. I never would fit into a booth when I was 425lbs. I will now, obviously, but I still automatically ask. I got into this habit to avoid the embarrassment of finding that I would not fit into a booth at a restaurant while everyone was watching and wondering if I would (I could feel the eyes on my back as I walked by).
2. I still look in the mirror and feel that I am still fat even though I am 153 lbs with a 32" waist. I ask friends if I look fat in something, often.
 

ChiPCGuy

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
I notice that Zendari is not bothering to reply to the one person in this thread who has been to "hell and back" on this issue and brings true insight into what is going on. Perhaps because I am gay? Hmmmmm.

Ignorance prefers to remain status-quo: ignorant. No matter the subject. Anything else requires critical thinking and challenging your own assumptions.

I wish Zentroll would answer you also.

Thanks for sharing your story. I have a brother who has always been heavy, currently over 400 pounds. About 2 years ago I got up to 285 pounds myself. He and I went on a diet together and lost 50 pounds each in a year, but then he just couldn't do it anymore. I held my weight off, but gained back 5 to 10 pounds over this winter, but he has gained almost all of his weight back.

He wants to get the gastric bypass operation, but his insurance company refuses to pay for it, they call it "cosmetic". He's a machinist and on his feet all day long on cement and they call it "cosmetic"?? Right. Since his employer is "self-insured" they are basically saying they would rather he has to quit or dies of a heart attack rather then pay for an operation. Isn't that a nice way to treat an employee of 28 years.

The point is that I know from close personal experience that everything you've spoken of in here is true.


Hey. I am sorry to hear about your brother's predicament. For the seriously obese, this may be the only option. Many insurance companies are now catching on that the operation will cost them less than dealing with a myriad of health issues and the associated costs down the line. I hope your brother's insurance company gets some common sense!

Congratulations on your success! Hard, isn't it? The maintaining is the most challenging. You will forever battle it (yourself). I know. One of the keys I have found also is to totally change your activity pattern. I do not mean to start exercising like a fiend every day--you might set yourself up for failure. I mean adopt these items:

1. Never take an elevator or escalator unless you have a heavy box you are carrying.
2. If you can walk somewhere reasonably, and not drive, then walk.
3. Make a point of taking the "hard way" to get physical things done.

These things helped me a great deal--I moved to Chicago from the suburbs and I am forced into a situation where if I move my car, I will lose my parking spot. So, I walk everywhere, including the grocery store, even in the dead of winter. I live in a 4th floor apartment with no elevators. I always use stairs, unless it is 10 floors or more.

These things helped ME, but you might get different mileage or have something that works for you even better.
 

1EZduzit

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I started walking over 2 months ago just for the exercise. Every other day for 40 to 45 minutes, I suppose it's easily over 2 miles? I quit gaining weight, but haven't lost any yet. I originally started my diet because my blood pressure was too high and I had to start taking pills. The weight loss helped, but I'm still taking 50mg of atenolol every day. I'm hoping to be able to get my blood pressure under control without medication.

Winter is hard because my wife loves to bake in the winter. Yesterday she made homemade buns and today she has already baked 4 dozen chocholate chip cookies and is thinking of making some pies. She makes homemade bread, banana bread, pumpkin bread, zuchinni bread, homemade pies from home grown apples, pumpkin, cherrys, ruhbarb, cakes, etc. and the list goes on and on!! LOL, I'm making myself hungry talking about it.

Farming season starts shortly and I will be out of the house and away from the food which makes things way easier. I'm going to start a new diet and shoot for 35 pounds this summer (by pheasant hunting season in October). If I can do it, that will get me back to what I weighed when I graduated high school and hopefully off of the atenolol. :)
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Luckyboy1
Sorry, I'm a paragraph challenged person, so I'm sorry for the results, but will try harder as the pay increases around here! ;)

The problem isn't this or that diet or exercize program. Most can add up kilocalories eaten and kolicalories burned.

The problem is sticking with it when you can't sleep, can't think of anything else but eating, your guts crawl and turn and make noises you can hear across the room and it is very painfull. Do this for 5 years straight!... it simply won't happen in any statistically significant way.

35 pounds? If you are an average U.S. male at 5' 10" tall, 35 pounds means you are at best borderline clinically obese. I'm not talking about those people, but dieting has been shown over and over gain to turn those people into truly clinically obese people.

Think anyone isn't aware they weigh like 300, 400 or more pounds? Trust me, they might not be the brightest kid on the block, but nobody needs to fork over a quarter to buy 'em a clue!

Ewe, he's so fat and disgusting! :disgust:

Hey Sherlock, what was your first clue?

And these children
That you spit on
As they try and change their world

Are immune
To your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're going through!

Changes by David Bowie!


I still pray for forgiveness for giving a childhood classmate, a young lady of 4 foot nothing and 300 pounds a hard time! I still pray and wonder if the sin can ever be washed away!

At 6' 4", 35 lbs distributes well so I wasn't clinically obese :) But I had a gut and was working on a double chin...

5 years? It should be 55 years. People have to change their diet, not go on a diet. People have to change their exercise habits, not go on an exercise plan. There's a fundamental difference.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I started walking over 2 months ago just for the exercise. Every other day for 40 to 45 minutes, I suppose it's easily over 2 miles? I quit gaining weight, but haven't lost any yet. I originally started my diet because my blood pressure was too high and I had to start taking pills. The weight loss helped, but I'm still taking 50mg of atenolol every day. I'm hoping to be able to get my blood pressure under control without medication.

Winter is hard because my wife loves to bake in the winter. Yesterday she made homemade buns and today she has already baked 4 dozen chocholate chip cookies and is thinking of making some pies. She makes homemade bread, banana bread, pumpkin bread, zuchinni bread, homemade pies from home grown apples, pumpkin, cherrys, ruhbarb, cakes, etc. and the list goes on and on!! LOL, I'm making myself hungry talking about it.

Farming season starts shortly and I will be out of the house and away from the food which makes things way easier. I'm going to start a new diet and shoot for 35 pounds this summer (by pheasant hunting season in October). If I can do it, that will get me back to what I weighed when I graduated high school and hopefully off of the atenolol. :)

Good luck to you. If you knew you could save say $50 a month in insurance, wouldn't you try harder? ;)
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I started walking over 2 months ago just for the exercise. Every other day for 40 to 45 minutes, I suppose it's easily over 2 miles? I quit gaining weight, but haven't lost any yet. I originally started my diet because my blood pressure was too high and I had to start taking pills. The weight loss helped, but I'm still taking 50mg of atenolol every day. I'm hoping to be able to get my blood pressure under control without medication.

Winter is hard because my wife loves to bake in the winter. Yesterday she made homemade buns and today she has already baked 4 dozen chocholate chip cookies and is thinking of making some pies. She makes homemade bread, banana bread, pumpkin bread, zuchinni bread, homemade pies from home grown apples, pumpkin, cherrys, ruhbarb, cakes, etc. and the list goes on and on!! LOL, I'm making myself hungry talking about it.

Farming season starts shortly and I will be out of the house and away from the food which makes things way easier. I'm going to start a new diet and shoot for 35 pounds this summer (by pheasant hunting season in October). If I can do it, that will get me back to what I weighed when I graduated high school and hopefully off of the atenolol. :)

Good luck to you. If you knew you could save say $50 a month in insurance, wouldn't you try harder? ;)

Thanks! I know I can drop most of that, but getting down to my high school weight of 210 is going to be tough. The lowest my weight has ever been as an adult is 205 so.....

$50/month? phfftt, not even a consideration as far as I'm concerned, I have way more important things to worry about then that. That's not even a night out on the town or a motel room for a night.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: zendari
I guess its no wonder hospital costs are increasing now that everything has to be supersized. It's unfortunate that our society is catering to the fatties and their lives of gluttony.
You certainly are a hateful little troll. Get help.

The fact that he is attacking Bush's base is a hoot as well.

I think it's funnier that a looney leftie like you thinks that fat people constitute Bush's Base! How much more elitist can you get?
 

will889

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: zendari
I guess its no wonder hospital costs are increasing now that everything has to be supersized. It's unfortunate that our society is catering to the fatties and their lives of gluttony.
You certainly are a hateful little troll. Get help.

The fact that he is attacking Bush's base is a hoot as well.

I think it's funnier that a looney leftie like you thinks that fat people constitute Bush's Base! How much more elitist can you get?

Did he strike a nerve?

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: will889
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: zendari
I guess its no wonder hospital costs are increasing now that everything has to be supersized. It's unfortunate that our society is catering to the fatties and their lives of gluttony.
You certainly are a hateful little troll. Get help.

The fact that he is attacking Bush's base is a hoot as well.

I think it's funnier that a looney leftie like you thinks that fat people constitute Bush's Base! How much more elitist can you get?

Did he strike a nerve?

No. Does that dissapoint you? I'm 6'4" 205, hardly considered fat.
 

will889

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I have known loon lefties and loon righties that are fat (EG Rush). Not party attributable IMO. Nor loon status attributable. Fat is just fat.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: will889
I have known loon lefties and loon righties that are fat (EG Rush). Not party attributable IMO. Nor loon status attributable. Fat is just fat.

Of course it is. But I just read Freakonomics - it would be interesting to study to see the correlation. I would suspect the heaviest sub-group correlation would actually be in the Democrat base, since african americans overwhelmingly vote democratic, and also are more obese as a population. Then you could move onto poor, middle class, etc.

That's why arsebanned's post was either a) a troll, b) proof of his irrationality or c) proof of his elitist leftist attitude.

I lean towards some combination of all 3.

 

zendari

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I started walking over 2 months ago just for the exercise. Every other day for 40 to 45 minutes, I suppose it's easily over 2 miles? I quit gaining weight, but haven't lost any yet. I originally started my diet because my blood pressure was too high and I had to start taking pills. The weight loss helped, but I'm still taking 50mg of atenolol every day. I'm hoping to be able to get my blood pressure under control without medication.

Winter is hard because my wife loves to bake in the winter. Yesterday she made homemade buns and today she has already baked 4 dozen chocholate chip cookies and is thinking of making some pies. She makes homemade bread, banana bread, pumpkin bread, zuchinni bread, homemade pies from home grown apples, pumpkin, cherrys, ruhbarb, cakes, etc. and the list goes on and on!! LOL, I'm making myself hungry talking about it.

Farming season starts shortly and I will be out of the house and away from the food which makes things way easier. I'm going to start a new diet and shoot for 35 pounds this summer (by pheasant hunting season in October). If I can do it, that will get me back to what I weighed when I graduated high school and hopefully off of the atenolol. :)

Good luck to you. If you knew you could save say $50 a month in insurance, wouldn't you try harder? ;)

Thanks! I know I can drop most of that, but getting down to my high school weight of 210 is going to be tough. The lowest my weight has ever been as an adult is 205 so.....

$50/month? phfftt, not even a consideration as far as I'm concerned, I have way more important things to worry about then that. That's not even a night out on the town or a motel room for a night.

How about $500 a month?

I know I saved a considerable amount of money on my car insurance when I turned 19 after 2 years of ticketfree driving, and my rates (though still high, thnx to NJ car insurance prices) are lower than most of my friends.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
Originally posted by: zendari
We single out younger/ticketed/risky/male drivers for car insurance. What's the problem?


Younger, ticketed, risky male drivers are not suffering from a fundamental mental health issue.

Some people have naturally slower reflexes/less coordination than others.


That does not equate to a fundamental health issue. Try again.
If you say so. It still increases your insurance rates.
 

Strk

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Insurance rates are based on statistics, not on some inherent desire to discriminate.

 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I started walking over 2 months ago just for the exercise. Every other day for 40 to 45 minutes, I suppose it's easily over 2 miles? I quit gaining weight, but haven't lost any yet. I originally started my diet because my blood pressure was too high and I had to start taking pills. The weight loss helped, but I'm still taking 50mg of atenolol every day. I'm hoping to be able to get my blood pressure under control without medication.

Winter is hard because my wife loves to bake in the winter. Yesterday she made homemade buns and today she has already baked 4 dozen chocholate chip cookies and is thinking of making some pies. She makes homemade bread, banana bread, pumpkin bread, zuchinni bread, homemade pies from home grown apples, pumpkin, cherrys, ruhbarb, cakes, etc. and the list goes on and on!! LOL, I'm making myself hungry talking about it.

Farming season starts shortly and I will be out of the house and away from the food which makes things way easier. I'm going to start a new diet and shoot for 35 pounds this summer (by pheasant hunting season in October). If I can do it, that will get me back to what I weighed when I graduated high school and hopefully off of the atenolol. :)

Good luck to you. If you knew you could save say $50 a month in insurance, wouldn't you try harder? ;)

Thanks! I know I can drop most of that, but getting down to my high school weight of 210 is going to be tough. The lowest my weight has ever been as an adult is 205 so.....

$50/month? phfftt, not even a consideration as far as I'm concerned, I have way more important things to worry about then that. That's not even a night out on the town or a motel room for a night.

How about $500 a month?

I know I saved a considerable amount of money on my car insurance when I turned 19 after 2 years of ticketfree driving, and my rates (though still high, thnx to NJ car insurance prices) are lower than most of my friends.

My brother has been heavy all his life and my Dad used to try to bribe him to lose weight. He always took the bribe but was never able to lose the weight, which in turn just made him feel worse.

Staying healthy should be a good enough incentive. If it's not then I don't think anything short of being able to afford a personal trainer/dietician (like Oprah did) will be enough.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
I can speak from experience on this one. I used to weigh 425lbs. I now weight 153 (as of this morning). It took me four years to lose it through calorie control and exercise and SHEER FORCE OF WILL alone. I have been maintaining at a steady 150-153lbs for nearly two years now.

(snip extra)

Obesity is a mental health issue, in my opinion.
Ding-ding-ding, we have a(nother?) winner. This is why a diet and exercise, simply as behaviors, are pointless.
HOWEVER, I don't want to over-simplify the issue here. My situation is unique. My focus and will are unique. I have mild OCD that I was able to leverage against my weight. I used one mental health issue to control another. I turned it on itself. I was taking Paxil for the OCD, and intentionally ceased taking it in order to use the OCD to become neurotic about weight loss.

(snip extra)
Most folks' situation is 'unique'. But genuinely making the decision and being willing to take risks and get necessary help are what it takes to make any major change. Your method might not work for someone else. Your reasons might not be the same. But setting your will on becoming a different person is going to be common to every single success story. It's not easy--I've got changes to make that I'm having trouble with, completely unrelated to weight, that shouldn't be so hard--but that's what it takes, plain and simple.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
How about $500 a month?

I know I saved a considerable amount of money on my car insurance when I turned 19 after 2 years of ticketfree driving, and my rates (though still high, thnx to NJ car insurance prices) are lower than most of my friends.

My brother has been heavy all his life and my Dad used to try to bribe him to lose weight. He always took the bribe but was never able to lose the weight, which in turn just made him feel worse.

Staying healthy should be a good enough incentive. If it's not then I don't think anything short of being able to afford a personal trainer/dietician (like Oprah did) will be enough.

It's hardly a bribe if you are getting it regardless of performance.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
How about $500 a month?

I know I saved a considerable amount of money on my car insurance when I turned 19 after 2 years of ticketfree driving, and my rates (though still high, thnx to NJ car insurance prices) are lower than most of my friends.

My brother has been heavy all his life and my Dad used to try to bribe him to lose weight. He always took the bribe but was never able to lose the weight, which in turn just made him feel worse.

Staying healthy should be a good enough incentive. If it's not then I don't think anything short of being able to afford a personal trainer/dietician (like Oprah did) will be enough.

It's hardly a bribe if you are getting it regardless of performance.

It was half up front and half after he lost the weight. Irregardless, it didn't work.
 

zendari

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More Children and Men Getting Fat

ATLANTA - Could the obesity epidemic be peaking?

According to the government's most accurate recent check of the nation's girth, U.S. men and children are increasingly tipping the scales. But the obesity rate among women ? who at 33 percent are heavier as a group ? held steady.

The study didn't examine why men and children are getting fatter and women aren't. But some experts think the leveling off in women could signal a turning point in the nation's obesity epidemic.

"Women have always been more responsible about health than the general population," said Dr. William Dietz, of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which reported the new data.

"I'd like to think this shows women are leading the way in recognizing obesity as a health threat," said Dietz, director of the
CDC's Division of Nutrition and Physical Activity.

Another piece of research also suggests a turn. The NPD Group, a New York-based market research firm, found the percentage of overweight adults has held steady from 2002 to 2005.

"I would say it has leveled off. The bad news is we haven't found a way to lose weight," said Harry Balzer, vice president of NPD, which each year tracks what thousands of people eat and their self-reported height and weight.

The CDC report is being published in this week's
Journal of the American Medical Association.

The findings come from the CDC's National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, which collects data on a sample of about 5,000 people each year. The researchers clustered years together, presenting calculations for 1999-2000, 2001-2002 and 2003-2004.

The survey is considered the gold standard for obesity data ? it's done through in-person examinations that include actual height and weight measurements.

That beats telephone surveys, in which men tend to overstate their height and heavy people underestimate weight, throwing off obesity calculations, said Cynthia Ogden, the study's lead author.

The study found the percentage of men who are overweight rose to 71 percent in 2003-2004, from 67 percent in 1999-2000. The obese percentage rose to 31 percent, from 27.5 percent.

For women, both the overweight and obese percentages held steady, at about 62 percent and 33 percent, respectively.

Why women held steady is not clear, but Balzer said it may have to do with a leveling of employment rates for women since the late 1990s. He also noted a leveling of the percentage of Americans who eat meals at home ? home portions are considered healthier than what is eaten in restaurants.

For children, the percentage of boys, ages 2 to 19, who were seriously overweight, or obese, rose to more than 18 percent in 2003-2004, from 14 percent four years earlier. For girls, the percentage rose to 16 percent, from about 14 percent.

The CDC study also offered data on the percentage of kids who were heavier than 85 percent of children the same age and sex, as recorded in an earlier growth chart benchmark. Those children are customarily referred to as overweight, though the CDC does not use that term.

The percentage of kids in that category shot up to almost 34 percent in 2003-2004, compared to 28 percent in 1999-2000.

"I think the bad news about children far outweighs the good news about women," said Kelly Brownell, director of Yale University's Center for Eating and Weight Disorders.



Not suprising given the previous news. How many more Americans in Massachusetts will increase their gluttonous lifestyle of consumption when they don't even have to pay for the negative health effects?
 

Genx87

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I find this topic of obesity kind of interesting. All I hear is the doom and gloom about how we as a nation are heading to 3rd world status and people are starving because they cant afford food.

Then you come across the fact that complications from obesity has or will become the nations number one killer. No, it isnt starvation, famine, disease, but a preventable problem of people eating more than they need to and becoming fat to the point of killing themselves.

Truely amazing imo.
 
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Originally posted by: zendari
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More Children and Men Getting Fat

ATLANTA - Could the obesity epidemic be peaking?

According to the government's most accurate recent check of the nation's girth, U.S. men and children are increasingly tipping the scales. But the obesity rate among women ? who at 33 percent are heavier as a group ? held steady.

The study didn't examine why men and children are getting fatter and women aren't. But some experts think the leveling off in women could signal a turning point in the nation's obesity epidemic.

"Women have always been more responsible about health than the general population," said Dr. William Dietz, of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which reported the new data.

"I'd like to think this shows women are leading the way in recognizing obesity as a health threat," said Dietz, director of the
CDC's Division of Nutrition and Physical Activity.

Another piece of research also suggests a turn. The NPD Group, a New York-based market research firm, found the percentage of overweight adults has held steady from 2002 to 2005.

"I would say it has leveled off. The bad news is we haven't found a way to lose weight," said Harry Balzer, vice president of NPD, which each year tracks what thousands of people eat and their self-reported height and weight.

The CDC report is being published in this week's
Journal of the American Medical Association.

The findings come from the CDC's National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, which collects data on a sample of about 5,000 people each year. The researchers clustered years together, presenting calculations for 1999-2000, 2001-2002 and 2003-2004.

The survey is considered the gold standard for obesity data ? it's done through in-person examinations that include actual height and weight measurements.

That beats telephone surveys, in which men tend to overstate their height and heavy people underestimate weight, throwing off obesity calculations, said Cynthia Ogden, the study's lead author.

The study found the percentage of men who are overweight rose to 71 percent in 2003-2004, from 67 percent in 1999-2000. The obese percentage rose to 31 percent, from 27.5 percent.

For women, both the overweight and obese percentages held steady, at about 62 percent and 33 percent, respectively.

Why women held steady is not clear, but Balzer said it may have to do with a leveling of employment rates for women since the late 1990s. He also noted a leveling of the percentage of Americans who eat meals at home ? home portions are considered healthier than what is eaten in restaurants.

For children, the percentage of boys, ages 2 to 19, who were seriously overweight, or obese, rose to more than 18 percent in 2003-2004, from 14 percent four years earlier. For girls, the percentage rose to 16 percent, from about 14 percent.

The CDC study also offered data on the percentage of kids who were heavier than 85 percent of children the same age and sex, as recorded in an earlier growth chart benchmark. Those children are customarily referred to as overweight, though the CDC does not use that term.

The percentage of kids in that category shot up to almost 34 percent in 2003-2004, compared to 28 percent in 1999-2000.

"I think the bad news about children far outweighs the good news about women," said Kelly Brownell, director of Yale University's Center for Eating and Weight Disorders.



Not suprising given the previous news. How many more Americans in Massachusetts will increase their gluttonous lifestyle of consumption when they don't even have to pay for the negative health effects?

Why are you such a hateful little troll? I live in MA and I am in great shape. Check to see which state has the highest rate of obesity before you open your pie hole. Just a sad little troll. How's that hammer treating you, waiting in line to see him speak as majority leader? Bring a blankie, it's gonna be a long wait