Jordan Neely killed on the subway by marine veteran. Hero or killer?

[ch33zw1z]

"Neely, a former Michael Jackson impersonator, ranted about being hungry and thirsty and said that he wanted to return to jail and didn’t care if he lived or died",
He got what he wanted. Death by cop is the same thing.
He wanted to die and did exactly the thing that would end his life.
You are such butt hurt negro that lashes out at the white man any time you can.

Not caring if you live or die isn’t quite the same as killing yourself. There’s a big difference there.

 

[MrSquished]

"Neely, a former Michael Jackson impersonator, ranted about being hungry and thirsty and said that he wanted to return to jail and didn’t care if he lived or died",
He got what he wanted. Death by cop is the same thing.
He wanted to die and did exactly the thing that would end his life.
You are such butt hurt negro that lashes out at the white man any time you can.

And there it is. The disgusting people are proud of their nastiness and they simply say it all out loud.

You are a gross being.

 

[jdubs03]

What crime is Neely presumed guilty of?

You could argue disturbing the peace up to menacing.

 

[fskimospy]

"Neely, a former Michael Jackson impersonator, ranted about being hungry and thirsty and said that he wanted to return to jail and didn’t care if he lived or died",
He got what he wanted. Death by cop is the same thing.
He wanted to die and did exactly the thing that would end his life.
You are such butt hurt negro that lashes out at the white man any time you can.

Gross, dude.

Seriously gross.

 

[Drach]

Yes it is.
It's as gross as he is.
He gets what he gives.
I am exhausted with his but hurt white man bullshit

 

[outriding]

You could argue disturbing the peace up to menacing.

Sorry. I am not sure what you think about the situation

But I kind of think that doesn’t carry a death sentence

 

[outriding]

Yes it is.
It's as gross as he is.
He gets what he gives.
I am exhausted with his but hurt white man bullshit

I have been an asshole in public to complete strangers.

Should I be killed?

 

[Drach]

I have been an asshole in public to complete strangers.

Should I be killed?

No.
This guy wanted to die.

 

[Indus]

And there it is. The disgusting people are proud of their nastiness and they simply say it all out loud.

You are a gross being.

Where the fuck was your position when I posted this earlier??

Asian student stabbed by alleged bully at New York high school

An Asian student was stabbed by a classmate at Proctor High School in Utica, New York, on Monday.

nextshark.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695909518163788261

Thankfully the kid survived.

You call people racist but you're fucking racist as fuck squishy!


LOW LIVES SHOULD NOT MATTER!

 

[Indus]

The attacker was given the white glove treatment where as the Asian kid was stabbed, manhandled, thrown to the ground and automatically assumed as the attacker!

What happened to equality? Doesn't fucking exist but Squishy will always defend the black guy no matter what.

Progressive my ass.. all it is is RACISM plain for everyone to see!

 

[jdubs03]

Sorry. I am not sure what you think about the situation

But I kind of think that doesn’t carry a death sentence

I answered your question. Based on the evidence presented and Neely’s behavior, he at a minimum would’ve been charged with disturbing the peace. At maximum he would have been charged with menacing. I think he would’ve been charged with menacing. The crux is to what degree.

I at no point said anything about the result of the situation, nor my opinion of it.

My opinion is that excessive force was used during restraint and that the guy didn’t need to die, but the act of subduing him wasn’t the wrong choice.

 

[Indus]

I answered your question. Based on the evidence presented and Neely’s behavior, he at a minimum would’ve been charged with disturbing the peace. At maximum he would have been charged with menacing. I think he would’ve been charged with menacing. The crux is to what degree.

I at no point said anything about the result of the situation, nor my opinion of it.

My opinion is that excessive force was used during restraint and that the guy didn’t need to die, but the act of subduing him wasn’t the wrong choice.

Careful you're gonna get accused of being a blood thirsty racist loser by Squishy soon..

better put on a bullet proof vest!

 

[outriding]

No.
This guy wanted to die.

Did he say he wanted to die?


There is already been precedent where if someone assists some to die has been convicted of murder

Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[outriding]

I answered your question. Based on the evidence presented and Neely’s behavior, he at a minimum would’ve been charged with disturbing the peace. At maximum he would have been charged with menacing. I think he would’ve been charged with menacing. The crux is to what degree.

I at no point said anything about the result of the situation, nor my opinion of it.

My opinion is that excessive force was used during restraint and that the guy didn’t need to die, but the act of subduing him wasn’t the wrong choice.

Again just general discussion. Not direct at you but in general

But the lightest of the menacing charges is in the 3rd

Max of 3 months in jail


But I don’t think it meets the criteria for it..


3rd Degree Menacing: A person is guilty of 3rd degree menacing when he or she intentionally places or attempts to place another person in fear of death or imminent physical injury.

 

[jdubs03]

Careful you're gonna get accused of being a blood thirsty racist loser by Squishy soon..

better put on a bullet proof vest!

Ah I’ve been quite diplomatic about it. If the race dynamic was reversed I’d still be of the same opinion.

Again just general discussion. Not direct at you but in general

But the lightest of the menacing charges is in the 3rd

Max of 3 months in jail


But I don’t think it meets the criteria for it..


3rd Degree Menacing: A person is guilty of 3rd degree menacing when he or she intentionally places or attempts to place another person in fear of death or imminent physical injury.

I’m sure a lawyer could argue for fear of imminent physical injury. The counter argument would place emphasis on intentionality. but if it’s not menacing, then what is it? Disturbing the piece seems too light. Multiple people said they were worried about being in danger.

 

[Indus]

Ah I’ve been quite diplomatic about it. If the race dynamic was reversed I’d still be of the same opinion.

I’m sure a lawyer could argue for fear of imminent physical injury. The counter argument would place emphasis on intentionality. but if it’s not menacing, then what is it? Disturbing the piece seems too light. Multiple people said they were worried about being in danger.

Yeah same for me.. the thing that turned me off immediately was he was threatening others.

I'm just glad there were no more casualties except the instigator himself.

Sadly in America that's usually not the case and we have a shit ton of shootings.

 

[Paratus]

"Neely, a former Michael Jackson impersonator, ranted about being hungry and thirsty and said that he wanted to return to jail and didn’t care if he lived or died",
He got what he wanted. Death by cop is the same thing.
He wanted to die and did exactly the thing that would end his life.
You are such butt hurt negro that lashes out at the white man any time you can.

So did you come by your racist beliefs naturally or were you taught them by family or clergy?

 

[mindless1]

I can state unequivocally you are NOT for equal rights. I want POC to have the same rights as and you don't.

What kind of projection nonsense is that? I have never stated anything that aligns with that.

It seems very much like you want to stereotype people who merely disagree with you, without even knowing what race they are.

POC do have the same rights as Penny. This was an outlier because first, he was a veteran and second because people are fed up with loons of any ethnicity (which includes white if that isn't obvious), taking it out on innocent civilians. You just don't intimidate people trapped in an enclosed area where they can't leave.

If you had paid attention to what I wrote, I stated that I think Penny is guilty of manslaughter. I don't want "heros" who use force without consequences, roaming around free in society. That's the thing about "heros", we applaud their sacrifice, putting themselves at risk, and this is one of those risks, that if they go too far, they should face the consequences.

Either way, this is a diversion from your tit for tat argument that society should start getting rabid and use excuses to attack each other, which could never turn out well.

You don't want the same rights. You want retribution against innocent people based on what someone else did, if they happened to be the same skin color, just like many other racists.

You are a racist, just trying to play the flip side and keep the hate alive like a true scumbag. This is not just a counter argument to your participation in this topic, you've displayed this racist rabid mentality for quite a while now.

Seek professional help, instead of being a coward that hopes someone else does your dirty deeds for you.

 

[outriding]

Ah I’ve been quite diplomatic about it. If the race dynamic was reversed I’d still be of the same opinion.

I’m sure a lawyer could argue for fear of imminent physical injury. The counter argument would place emphasis on intentionality. but if it’s not menacing, then what is it? Disturbing the piece seems too light. Multiple people said they were worried about being in danger.

anybody can argue complete nonsense…

Just like the woman who called the cops on people bbq in a park.

To get to the serious charges of menacing he would need a weapon. Without one it would be a very hard to go past 3rd degree and I did not hear he had one

 

[Drach]

So did you come by your racist beliefs naturally or were you taught them by family or clergy?

Certainly not by clergy.. At 57 this is what I believe.
I have zero issues with someone being black.
My son in law is black and a leo .My two grandchildren are biracial.
I just hate race baiting assholes.

 

[jdubs03]

anybody can argue complete nonsense…

Just like the woman who called the cops on people bbq in a park.

To get to the serious charges of menacing he would need a weapon. Without one it would be a very hard to go past 3rd degree and I did not hear he had one

How is it nonsense to argue that people weren’t worried about their safety? Dude was going off. Put yourself in a persons shoes who’s sitting or standing where this guy was screaming. You’d be uncomfortable.

 

[brycejones]

No.
This guy wanted to die.

Doesn’t make it the fucking job of some random stranger to appoint himself to see it done.

 

[brycejones]

Where the fuck was your position when I posted this earlier??

Asian student stabbed by alleged bully at New York high school

An Asian student was stabbed by a classmate at Proctor High School in Utica, New York, on Monday.

nextshark.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695909518163788261

Thankfully the kid survived.

You call people racist but you're fucking racist as fuck squishy!


LOW LIVES SHOULD NOT MATTER!

Yes the people committing the assault need to be appropriately punished.

But this has fuck all to do with the case this thread is about.

 

[brycejones]

How is it nonsense to argue that people weren’t worried about their safety? Dude was going off. Put yourself in a persons shoes who’s sitting or standing where this guy was screaming. You’d be uncomfortable.

Uncomfortable doesn’t mean it’s ok to grab a person and choke them to death though.

 

[jdubs03]

Uncomfortable doesn’t mean it’s ok to grab a person and choke them to death though.

Come on man. There were women right near the guy, including a woman with a child. If an adult man is uncomfortable (I’m being very generous with this word), a woman is going to feel considerably worse.

The guy was behaving in a highly erratic manner and can easily be interpreted by someone as threatening. You don’t know if he’s a got a knife that he could spring out on someone, or if his mental state could lead to further escalation.

From my perspective it seems pretty reasonable that someone who is physically capable would interject to subdue the potential/real threat. Just in case.

I’ve already made my opinion clear in previous posts. The 6 minute hold and the subsequent fatality is the regrettable part of this.