Jon Stewart Delivers Blistering Takedown of Obamacare Rollout

[thraashman]

Whereas liberals say reality has a liberal bias.

That originated with a line that Stephen Colbert said when he did the White House Press Correspondence dinner speech. It gets repeated A) because that speech was freaking funny and B) because if you spend enough time interacting with conservatives in P&N you come to realize that they do not live in reality.

 

[shadow9d9]

It's an interesting situation Stewart has put himself in.

Everyone agrees he is a liberal comedian and not a news reporter, who primarily mocks news organizations and conservatives.

But, many, many people, shadow9d9 being example #1, believe he is presenting truth in every joke he tells.

I guess if you press me, it is that some people do become angry and hateful towards other people based on the perception of the world Stewart uses for his jokes, that I dislike the most.


How does that get termed? A shill makes you incorrectly believe he is honest in what he is representing. What is he representing? Humor or truth? Stewart if pressed always says he is a comedian not to be taken seriously, but that just seems to increase some people's belief that he is presenting reality with his comedy.

You aren't the authority on what "everyone" thinks.

I don't watch the show. I see clips when they are posted here...maybe once a month. YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE AND PRESENT THEM AS FACTS!

Not a single person here has provided any proof that any of Stewart's pieces are done unfairly against one group vs another.

 

[shadow9d9]

Its far easier to for stewart to make fun of people he disagrees with. I'd argue its far easier for anyone to find faults with those they disagree with, and stewart doesn't hide his bias

It is much easier to make fun of people who are insane and say insane things. That falls under the Republican category more often than not... Sucks for you. That is why there aren't any viable conservative comedians in the vein of Stewart.

 

[shadow9d9]

The fact that liberals defend him so mindlessly (witness many of the crazed attacks above) proves that indeed he's a Democrat shill and they know it.

Dems always give their game away. It's kind of funny.

You'd have to first prove that posters here are liberal. Disagreeing with you do NOT make someone magically "liberal" or "democrat"(which is not liberal). See, you don't even comprehend the words you say...

Notice also how not one person here has produced a shred of evidence that Stewart has been unfair to anyone? There is a REASON you are not providing any evidence and instead trying to deflect and attack! Don't make a claim unless you could back it up...

 

[shadow9d9]

Nothing but confirmation bias. You think republicans are more comical, therefor you think Stewart is a reflection of reality.

Whereas the truth is Steward is a flaming liberal, that looks to rip republicans. If one is looking for something they are more likely to find something. With democrats, Stewart only makes fun of them when it falls on his lap. Since he's a fan of the left, he's not going to dig to find crap on them.


Both sides are target rich, its just that Stewart, and the lmsm only target one side.

If both sides were target rich, then there would be a viable comedy show from the republicans doing the same.

"You think republicans are more comical, therefor you think Stewart is a reflection of reality. " Oh the irony.

 

[trenchfoot]

Nothing but confirmation bias. You think republicans are more comical, therefor you think Stewart is a reflection of reality.

Whereas the truth is Steward is a flaming liberal, that looks to rip republicans. If one is looking for something they are more likely to find something. With democrats, Stewart only makes fun of them when it falls on his lap. Since he's a fan of the left, he's not going to dig to find crap on them.


Both sides are target rich, its just that Stewart, and the lmsm only target one side.

Agreed, in the sense that Stewart could even make fun of Obama attempting to scratch the side of his nose and missing it completely, ends up wiping his nose with his shirt sleeve. 😉

I really do feel the Repubs are more comical than the Dems. In fact I think the Dems are downright boring in comparison, again using Reid as a perfect example.

The Repubs have this nasty habit of overplaying their hand, using very loud and exaggerated accusations accompanied with theatrical facial gesturing and this swooping waving of the arms to make their case....you know, like Boehner crying in public and such. And they have to do this because rule #1 in their playbook states it's what you have to do when the point you're trying to make is weak or fallacious.

In this regard the Repubs, well, moreso the youngster legislators in their midst are begging for attention, and Stewart wholeheartedly obliges....with glee.

 

[shadow9d9]

lol to be honest i don't think you are looking very hard IF you think Republicans have more hypocrisy, incompetence and stupidity. both parties are full of it.

Stewart comes across and a big backer of teh dems. Though he will take shots at major issues like this. it is far to big to ignore and amazing.


not to mention he was very funny. I try to watch him and colbert

Not equally full of it, no. That is the key that you missed there.

You are doing the equivalent of the "both sides are bad, so vote republican." Both sides are bad, but they are not NEARLY equally as bad.

 

[shadow9d9]

Here's one man's story:
http://carm.org/matt-slick-daily-show
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/18/gays-beat-up-straights-daily-show_n_3461919.html

The fact is, nothing that anyone says here will change your opinion, so there is no point in trying to please you. Your only intent is mockery, not discussion. None of us have personally been misrepresented by Stewart so we do not have personal stories. If you believe the interviews are honest representations, you can go fuck yourself.

So, you posted the story of a homophobe who hides behind the bible that complains that even though he was super upset that his ministry wasn't mentioned in order for him to get free advertisement, they mislabeled him as a pastor? Then he complains again that his ministry wasn't freely advertised?

Is that really evidence in your book?

"The fact is, nothing that anyone says here will change your opinion..." Trying to preemptively stop discussion are we? I think you need to look up what the word 'fact' means...

I am willing to discuss it further, though you seemed ot have preemptively opted out of actual discussion... That is a sign of a weak argument.

 

[michal1980]

You aren't the authority on what "everyone" thinks.

I don't watch the show. I see clips when they are posted here...maybe once a month. YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE AND PRESENT THEM AS FACTS!

Not a single person here has provided any proof that any of Stewart's pieces are done unfairly against one group vs another.

When John Stewart says he's a socialist, and that no one would think his show 'leans right'.

WTF do you think he is saying?

The man himself says he's a lib, and his show is biased, and you deny it.

What twisted world do you live in.

 

[michal1980]

Agreed, in the sense that Stewart could even make fun of Obama attempting to scratch the side of his nose and missing it completely, ends up wiping his nose with his shirt sleeve. 😉

I really do feel the Repubs are more comical than the Dems. In fact I think the Dems are downright boring in comparison, again using Reid as a perfect example.

The Repubs have this nasty habit of overplaying their hand, using very loud and exaggerated accusations accompanied with theatrical facial gesturing and this swooping waving of the arms to make their case....you know, like Boehner crying in public and such. And they have to do this because rule #1 in their playbook states it's what you have to do when the point you're trying to make is weak or fallacious.

In this regard the Repubs, well, moreso the youngster legislators in their midst are begging for attention, and Stewart wholeheartedly obliges....with glee.

How do you KNOW libs are more boring? part of the lmsm bias is NOT reporting things that will make their buddies look bad.

Since they don't release pic's of their guys looking bad, or acting bad, you have no idea if they are just as bad.

Put it simple...

Any one that leans right says something stupid, its headline news.
Any one that leans left says something stupid, and it might have not as well happened. (IE if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?)

 

[dank69]

When John Stewart says he's a socialist, and that no one would think his show 'leans right'.

WTF do you think he is saying?

The man himself says he's a lib, and his show is biased, and you deny it.

What twisted world do you live in.

Your house doesn't lean right, does that mean it automatically leans left?

 

[fskimospy]

How do you KNOW libs are more boring? part of the lmsm bias is NOT reporting things that will make their buddies look bad.

Since they don't release pic's of their guys looking bad, or acting bad, you have no idea if they are just as bad.

Put it simple...

Any one that leans right says something stupid, its headline news.
Any one that leans left says something stupid, and it might have not as well happened. (IE if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?)

What evidence would you accept that would disprove your belief that the media is liberally biased?

 

[shadow9d9]

When John Stewart says he's a socialist, and that no one would think his show 'leans right'.

WTF do you think he is saying?

The man himself says he's a lib, and his show is biased, and you deny it.

What twisted world do you live in.

Being a socialist doesn't equate in any way to making a biased show. Notice how you have no evidence of any unfairness aside from a gay hating bible thumper that was only upset that his ministry wasn't promoted?

 

[shadow9d9]

How do you KNOW libs are more boring? part of the lmsm bias is NOT reporting things that will make their buddies look bad.

Since they don't release pic's of their guys looking bad, or acting bad, you have no idea if they are just as bad.

Put it simple...

Any one that leans right says something stupid, its headline news.
Any one that leans left says something stupid, and it might have not as well happened. (IE if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?)

There are no right wing comedy show because they have very little to make fun of. This is reality.

The mainstream media actually leans further right than left. That is why we were able to go to iraq/Afghanistan and people still have no clue what is in the ACA.

Repeating the talking points that you've been taught is truth doesn't make it any more correct.

Here is some evidence:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...company-all-discussions-of-media-bias/257961/

 

[Smoblikat]

Why is that bad? John Stewart isn't a Democratic shill, he attacks Democrats and Republicans both.

No, not really. While I wouldnt call him a shill, he certainly is openly left leaning and generally lets more things slide from the socialist side.

 

[fskimospy]

There are no right wing comedy show because they have very little to make fun of. This is reality.

The mainstream media actually leans further right than left. That is why we were able to go to iraq/Afghanistan and people still have no clue what is in the ACA.

Repeating the talking points that you've been taught is truth doesn't make it any more correct.

Here is some evidence:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...company-all-discussions-of-media-bias/257961/

Remember when Fox News tried that "1/2 hour news hour" thing? That failed pretty quickly and it was horribly unfunny. The thing that conservatives never understand is that the Daily Show has never been about attacking Republicans; The Daily Show is about making fun of people when they do stupid things. Its goal is to be funny first, political second. When you go out of your way to make a conservative political humor show you put the cart before the horse. That = unfunny.

 

[waggy]

Not equally full of it, no. That is the key that you missed there.

You are doing the equivalent of the "both sides are bad, so vote republican." Both sides are bad, but they are not NEARLY equally as bad.

where the fuck did i say that? bwhahah i think you are seeing what you want to see. lol

 

[PokerGuy]

he's a liberal shill.

Its just sometimes the dems fall so far off the reservation, even he can't help ripping them.


Last time he was ripping Obamacare, he couldn't help but turn the 2nd half of it into a republican bash fest.

Exactly this. When things get so bad that even left wing hacks like Stewart start making fun of obummercare, you know it's truly in the dumps.

 

[ivwshane]

Exactly this. When things get so bad that even left wing hacks like Stewart start making fun of obummercare, you know it's truly in the dumps.

Lol! Yep that's true, but so is the reverse; when the right gets made fun of, you know they've hit rock bottom!

Of course your mentally defective mind doesn't make that connection.

 

[Incorruptible]

Jon Stewart goes after democrats and republicans and in many ways he is more honest than the MSM. But he is still a liberal and will defend liberal ideas.

 

[Fern]

Why does the only impartial, honest, and intelligent member of the media continue to have to be the one who most shouldn't be any of those things because he's a comedian?

Righties don't get it. Jon Stewart doesn't attack Fox and Republicans because he's a Democrat shill. He attacks them because he's the best damn news man on TV and THEY FUCKING DESERVE IT!

Wow.

I enjoy watching John Stewart, but he's not a "news man". Not even close. He's not a "member of the media".

He's a comedian who specializes in topical comedy.

Here, read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedic_genres

Fern

 

[PokerGuy]

Lol! Yep that's true, but so is the reverse; when the right gets made fun of, you know they've hit rock bottom!

Of course your mentally defective mind doesn't make that connection.

Stewart is a left wing hack, everyone expects him to make fun of the right / conservatives / gop. When even left wing hacks like him see that something like obummercare is such a disaster, it must be really bad.

 

[shadow9d9]

Exactly this. When things get so bad that even left wing hacks like Stewart start making fun of obummercare, you know it's truly in the dumps.

Keep farking that chicken!

He makes fun of both sides as appropriate.

Proof is in this thread. The best set of "unfairness" proven by ANYONE in this thread is a gay hating wuss who hides behind the bible.. and his complaint? He was incorrectly called a pastor and then he mentions multiple times how upset he was that his ministry wasn't freely advertised!!!

 

[Matt1970]

The mainstream media actually leans further right than left.

If that wasn't enough for you, we have this:

MSNBC is middle/right at best.

The fail is strong with this one.

 

[shadow9d9]

If that wasn't enough for you, we have this:



The fail is strong with this one.

Well, it is. Since you ignored it the first time: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...company-all-discussions-of-media-bias/257961/

Feel free to provide EVIDENCE to the contrary. Your gutt doesn't count and the talking points you've been taught don't count.

What evidence of Stewart's bias are you guys going to bring up next? A neo Nazi wh ois upset that his organization didn't get free advertising?