Joe Rogan Experiece with Ben Shapiro

[UglyCasanova]

Can you link the interview so we can read/hear it also

 

[ivwshane]

I like how we're somehow the ignorant ones, simply because we don't want to give attention to someone who has repeatedly, over a period of many years, spouted complete nonsense. So no matter what he's said or done, we should apparently still spend time listening to his points in the hope that the latest batch isn't the total nonsense he's said so often before.

Edit: I even decided to give you and him the benefit of the doubt and look at some of his recent comments in an interview. It's largely full of straw men arguments. Two of the first arguments I came across were that the LGBTQ group thinks their opinion deserves more weight because they were and are discriminated against. That's not true at all, they want to be treated as equals. Then he tries to argue against the idea that every black person is individually discriminated against by the US. That's not the argument either. The reality is the being black simply makes it more likely that you will suffer discrimination, the 'left' doesn't claim that every single individual is being persecuted.

Then he talks about how white, straight men are somehow at the bottom of the barrel in terms of being listened to. Whereas the reality is that that minority group is actually the loudest and most powerful voice in this country, and will continue to be so for a long time yet, despite the trend toward more equal representation for everyone else.

So, it looks like he's still spouting nonsense even in the last year or so. So he can't feel that bad about the stupid stuff he said when he was younger, because he's still doing it consistently now. Whether it's through outright denial of the facts or just creating silly arguments that he can pick apart easily to appear like he's right.

That was my impression as well when I saw him on bio mhar. He was always arguing against something no one ever said. If you look at the righties on this forum and right wing media as a whole, their M.O. is to straw man the conversation. Idiots love it because it validates their feelings and they are never critical of people when they share their feelings.

 

[zinfamous]

There may be Neo-Nazis or white supremecists or KKK etc at my doorstep. If there’s an actual Nazi he’d have to be 90 years old. .

Stop.

I didn't read the rest, because this is the exact dumbshit I was talking about. You refuse to engage in the reality around you. There are real Nazis that are younger than you, today, and they are praising your service to them.

Fact.

Charlottseville happened. Accept your own fault in allowing that to happen, simply because you don't believe the possibility of it happening.

 

[Paladin3]

That was my impression as well when I saw him on bio mhar. He was always arguing against something no one ever said. If you look at the righties on this forum and right wing media as a whole, their M.O. is to straw man the conversation. Idiots love it because it validates their feelings and they are never critical of people when they share their feelings.

I've never really stopped to hear what the guy has to say, but pretty much expected this. I've listened to so many illogical BS arguments from all sides of the political spectrum that I've pretty much tuned out. Most of them wouldn't even meet the standards for a legit argument in a high school debate class. Honest political debate is pretty much an oxymoron.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I've never really stopped to hear what the guy has to say, but pretty much expected this. I've listened to so many illogical BS arguments from all sides of the political spectrum that I've pretty much tuned out. Most of them wouldn't even meet the standards for a legit argument in a high school debate class. Honest political debate is pretty much an oxymoron.

Watch some of his YouTube vids where he does Q&As with college kids. It’s very civil and he gives well thought legitimate responses, they aren’t straw men. I’m sure plenty in this thread would disagree, in which case I’d encourage them to post one of those vids where he does argue a straw man.

 

[Atreus21]

In case it hasn't already been posted, he interviewed Andrew Yang for an hour this weekend.

 

[ivwshane]

Watch some of his YouTube vids where he does Q&As with college kids. It’s very civil and he gives well thought legitimate responses, they aren’t straw men. I’m sure plenty in this thread would disagree, in which case I’d encourage them to post one of those vids where he does argue a straw man.

I just told you of a clip, the bill mhar interview. Do you ever hear anything you don't want to hear?

 

[UglyCasanova]

In case it hasn't already been posted, he interviewed Andrew Yang for an hour this weekend.

Thanks, watching now.

Edit: really good so far, Yang is very well spoken.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Beto has been flip flopping all over the place and is coming across as just trying to say whatever people want so my love fest there is over.

Listening to this interview with Yang is my first exposure to him and he seems like a very intelligent, well thought person with honest opinions. That in and of itself makes him much more respectable than any of the rest of the candidates including Trump. I don’t agree with UBI but he lays it out better than anyone I’ve ever heard.

 

[Atreus21]

Beto has been flip flopping all over the place and is coming across as just trying to say whatever people want so my love fest there is over.

Listening to this interview with Yang is my first exposure to him and he seems like a very intelligent, well thought person with honest opinions. That in and of itself makes him much more respectable than any of the rest of the candidates including Trump. I don’t agree with UBI but he lays it out better than anyone I’ve ever heard.

I got through about 20 minutes before I had to leave. He seems a decent sort.

 

[Majes]

Shapiro is great. He has good, logical takes on most topics. He also honestly tries to go back and retract/correct mistakes he has made.

His twitter account on the other hand is subject to sensationalism but I believe that's mainly because that's the entire point of twitter.

 

[ecogen]

I know it's difficult to swallow, but many people can and do go through their lives without spouting bigoted drivel. It really isn't that hard, at least for most of us.

https://twitter.com/x/status/817968543211790336

-Ben Shapiro, healthcare savant

 

[soulcougher73]

Overall i dont mine Shapiro. I agree with him on a lot. I think they blew the last bit of the episode about Mueller. That show isnt over yet. I like that he is able to separate his religious views from legal views. We need more of that.

 

[jackstar7]

Is he an advocate for white victimhood?

Then you KNOW Ugly gonna be drinking that shit down!

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Interviewing / talking with Dave Rubbin in ~30min - another EVIL gay liberal that believes in things that were originally democratic principles. New age righties have grown to like him for standing up for foreign things like freedom of speech.

 

[fskimospy]

Interviewing / talking with Dave Rubbin in ~30min - another EVIL gay liberal that believes in things that were originally democratic principles. New age righties have grown to like him for standing up for foreign things like freedom of speech.

Dave Rubin is a libertarian, not a liberal. (unless we're going with that 'classical liberal' thing where people just want to use confusing terms to sound smart)

Dave Rubin is also one of the stupidest people ever to walk the earth:

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Dave Rubin is a libertarian, not a liberal. (unless we're going with that 'classical liberal' thing where people just want to use confusing terms to sound smart)

Dave Rubin is also one of the stupidest people ever to walk the earth:

You're basing your opinion of him on that one quote above? To which, I don't necessarily agree with - but I don't have much to argue against. Either way it doesn't sound stupid, just an opinion?

It's pretty clear the media (and our politicians in general) don't "get" gaming or games in general. Hence why they are stupid enough to blame games for violence.... I mean, Pacman is the reason I take tons of pills though...

 

[fskimospy]

You're basing your opinion of him on that one quote above? To which, I don't necessarily agree with - but I don't have much to argue against. Either way it doesn't sound stupid, just an opinion?

It's pretty clear the media (and our politicians in general) don't "get" gaming or games in general. Hence why they are stupid enough to blame games for violence.... I mean, Pacman is the reason I take tons of pills though...

Sure, it's just one quote but it's seriously one of the most ludicrously stupid things I've ever heard a media personality say. Liberals hate gamers because of their accomplishments in beating video games? lol. Seriously?

Blaming video games for violence is stupid. Thinking liberals hate you for your no scope headshots in Halo is even stupider.

 

[jackstar7]

You're basing your opinion of him on that one quote above? To which, I don't necessarily agree with - but I don't have much to argue against. Either way it doesn't sound stupid, just an opinion?

Hey, Mr Disingenuous or Mr Moron (can't make the determination here),

What makes you jump to the conclusion that spy was judging him based on that one quote rather than providing that quote as one sample of the evidence against the dipshit's ability as some kind of rhetorical dynamo?

You are shameless and pathetic. I hope you get some therapy and find some real strength before you wind up being violent towards weaker people just to prove to yourself how strong you are... not that I can predict the future or even know you at all... but you give off a serious asshole vibe.

 

[soundforbjt]

I can't even stand to listen to Shapiro for more than 10 seconds, his voice sounds like he's huffing helium.

 

[Mai72]

Ben is sharp as heeell. He makes some good points. I tend to vote Democrat, but when Ben speaks I'm always like... Maybe I should go Repub? Naw.

Maybe it's his name. My real name is Ben as well.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Ben Shapiro is what a stupid person thinks a smart person sounds like.

He’s a YouTube personality who constantly contradicts himself because his job is to get attention, not to be smart.

Case in point:

Ben is sharp as heeell. He makes some good points. I tend to vote Democrat, but when Ben speaks I'm always like... Maybe I should go Repub? Naw.

Maybe it's his name. My real name is Ben as well.

 

[Vic]

Personally like him out of all the other fellow Anti-SJW group - or as lefties will call them, Nazis.

Which I mean, Ben Shapiro is the biggest Nazi of all.



EDIT: List of similar people, most of which are registered democrats politically: https://intellectualdarkweb.site/vanguards-of-the-intellectual-dark-web/

Aren't you one of those clowns who always accuses liberals of playing identity politics? And now you're claiming that someone can't possibly hold authoritarians beliefs because of a Jewish identity?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Aren't you one of those clowns who always accuses liberals of playing identity politics? And now you're claiming that someone can't possibly hold authoritarians beliefs because of a Jewish identity?

Did I say authoritarian? I said Nazi.

Are you suggesting a Jew can be a Nazi? That's some pretty deep self-hate there...

 

[Vic]

Let's try to remember that the OP is soo concerned about deplatforming that he once went to the mods demanding that I be banned from here because he didn't like something I said.