Joe Biden is pissing me off thread

[hal2kilo]

Still kissing the ass of the guy who let a bounty on our troops placed by Putin go unanswered?

Still kissing the ass of the guy who took the word of a murderous dictator over our own intelligence agencies?

BTW - Looks like your hero lied about the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi. Anything to say about that?

BTW - That so called partisan COVID bill has the approval of 76% of the American people, helps red and blue states. It even has the approval of 60% of Republicans. What part of your pea brain concludes this is PARTISAN?????

Trump never lied about Khashoggi, he used his usual mob boss way of communicating about it. Maybe, maybe not, probably, but you can't conclude anything...so on and so forth.
He might as well have, because the results were the same, MBS lost nothing while Trump was in office.

 

[alien42]

Trump never lied about Khashoggi, he used his usual mob boss way of communicating about it. Maybe, maybe not, probably, but you can't conclude anything...so on and so forth.
He might as well have, because the results were the same, MBS lost nothing while Trump was in office.

MBS, like Putin, had his hand up Trump's puppet ass. let's not forget...

"I saved his ass," Trump had said amid the US outcry over Khashoggi's killing, according to Bob Woodward's new book. "I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop."

 

[nickqt]

MBS, like Putin, had his hand up Trump's puppet ass. let's not forget...

"I saved his ass," Trump had said amid the US outcry over Khashoggi's killing, according to Bob Woodward's new book. "I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop."

Imagine being the the kind of sick fuck who not only orders the murder of political opponents, but half-asses the denial.

Our world in general is in a lot of trouble, because it's those kinds of sick fucks who literally run entire countries.

 

[shortylickens]

Imagine being the the kind of sick fuck who not only orders the murder of political opponents, but half-asses the denial.

Our world in general is in a lot of trouble, because it's those kinds of sick fucks who literally run entire countries.

They read Machiavelli and Sun Tzu and learned it works much better to appear strong than any other tactic. It gets you power and riches and for a short while will actually keep the ignorant masses in line.
When things finally fall apart they'll be long gone, either dead or in another country with no extradition. Donald is one of those people but he's not quite as skilled as Putin. And things always fall apart. Bullshit will only keep a nation together if it was strong to begin with and eventually it will wear it down and break it. That's where we are right now. The conservative propaganda machine is doing a fantastic job today. Literally has tens of millions of people believing obvious lies. We'll probably collapse in a couple decades and have to rebuild. The New America will look very different.

 

[nickqt]

They read Machiavelli and Sun Tzu and learned it works much better to appear strong than any other tactic. It gets you power and riches and for a short while will actually keep the ignorant masses in line.
When things finally fall apart they'll be long gone, either dead or in another country with no extradition. Donald is one of those people but he's not quite as skilled as Putin. And things always fall apart. Bullshit will only keep a nation together if it was strong to begin with and eventually it will wear it down and break it. That's where we are right now. The conservative propaganda machine is doing a fantastic job today. Literally has tens of millions of people believing obvious lies. We'll probably collapse in a couple decades and have to rebuild. The New America will look very different.

True believers think we're about to turn some corner and fix everything.

Pessimists believe the collapse has been ongoing for close to 50 years now, just in a very slow-mo way. I'm definitely a pessimist. The current trajectory has Democrats passing half-ass fixes because they're afraid of pissing off clueless Republican voters who will never vote for them anyway, with Republican politicians burning down as much as they can whenever they get majority power.

That said, the US has the population, technology and resources to re-develop itself, rebuild infrastructure to actually produce widescale renewable energy, and build up a sustainable level of civilization. It isn't "communism" in any sense of the word, but it is very much Social Democracy that gets us there. Social Democracy would allow our civilization to create industries that are owned and operated for the benefit of the civilization with little-to-no profit, but where non-essential services can remain in private hands. We NEED "free" energy for everyone, and we're not every going to get near that with "free market" private enterprise allowed to price gouge necessities.

Renewable energy is KEY. Energy = Wealth, full stop. We should be extracting as much non-renewable energy as possible and STORING it. Petroleum fuel sources are very important for particular uses. But, literally everything that can run on renewable energy SHOULD run on renewable energy. Wind, solar, geothermal, wave, tidal, molten salt nuclear, etc. Make the electrical grid redundant while burying it and faithful maintenance, so it's safe from breakdown, and then provide every American with close to free energy from birth. That's a fucking investment and stimulus project. That would be some solid bootstraps. Then start charging premiums as it gets used at an industrial level, rather than personal.

As a meta argument, if you're a Libertarian (capital L) then you should be encouraging Social Democracy, because the only way our species can ever get to real Libertarianism (capital L) will require extremely advanced technology, like a molecular assembler, and the ability to travel in space. We ain't ever getting there if we insist, as a species, on burning up as many of the earth's non-renewable resources as fast as possible so that a few of us can live in an unsustainable civilizational bubble guaranteed to collapse.

 

[pcgeek11]

it's amazing how racists like pc geek don't see the implicit racism in the evil, jigaboo-like expressions given to Obama and Harris. This cartoon crammed all of the anti-african, anti-semitic, anti-muslim iconography into those figures, all at once.

I mean, in no way do those look anything like Obama or Harris, or how they have EVER appeared anywhere in public, but racists like pc geek see that as a spitting image: because the clear, unmistakable intent that pulls from decades of specifically racist iconography is well established in his brain as "correct." He doesn't even have to know it. (e.g. this is how propaganda works). Seriously--let's challenge pc geek to find an actual picture of a snarling Obama or Harris. When you're raised on the myth of the "predatory black male" and "uppity black female," you look at this kind of thing and accept it as accurate.

pc geek doesn't understand it because it is normal to him. he doesn't have the type of education where he has been exposed to the history of this type of symbolism, and what it means, and how it is used as a weapon against his brain. It is extremely effective on people like him, because propaganda works really well. Educated people understand the history of these things, because you used our time in our various schools learning; not pretending that we were smarter than our teachers that only ever gave us Cs while we jacked off under our desks.

racists like pc geek don't understand the simple, obvious racism in this kind of propaganda because it is the type of work that has always appealed to them, because it reinforces what they already think. He doesn't have to be able to express, or even understand that directly, but his subconscious accepts it as right. racism is the foundation of his being, and you don't have to be able to acknowledge it or even accept it for it to absolutely be who you are.

and no, it's not "just satire." There is direct historical precedent to this kind of trash. It is racist trash created by a racist, only to appeal to racists. There really is no other argument to have there.

Nice speech...

It is still funny.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Nice speech...

It is still funny.

i'll bite. what makes it so funny?

 

[pcgeek11]

i'll bite. what makes it so funny?

Obama has him by the hair and shoulder and Kamala signing by using Bidens hand. The expressions on their faces.

What are your thoughts? Do you think it is racist too?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

On the matter of the cartoon with Obama and Harris, it is subtly racialist because Obama and Biden have a longstanding and understandable friendship as veterans of the same administration. Harris was just an up and coming CA US Senator, who ran against Biden in the primary, then became his choice as VP. Throwing Obama and Harris together in that cartoon suggests that they have a common agenda because they have similar racial origins. Why not put Schumer in the cartoon, or Pelosi? Obama can't officially figure in a current "agenda" because he's not currently an officeholder. So the choices made by the cartoonist were deliberate and they were made on the basis of a cartoonist's racialist perspective.

The cartoonist might even deny it if confronted, but that's what it is. Most people with those almost unconscious attitudes do indeed deny it. Birthers will deny being racist, but Birtherism is subtly racist. They argue their suspicions that Obama was really born in Kenya because his Kenyan father was black, and the pursuit of that story beyond all reason had an underlying racist motivation.

About the only racists who are honest about their racism are KKK members proud to march down the street in their hoods and sheets, or neo-nazi white-supremacist militia members. Those people are up front about it.

But the length, breadth, and depth of American racism makes the overt variety a snowflake on the tip of the iceberg, by comparison.

 

[pmv]

On the matter of the cartoon with Obama and Harris, it is subtly racialist because Obama and Biden have a longstanding and understandable friendship as veterans of the same administration. Harris was just an up and coming CA US Senator, who ran against Biden in the primary, then became his choice as VP. Throwing Obama and Harris together in that cartoon suggests that they have a common agenda because they have similar racial origins. Why not put Schumer in the cartoon, or Pelosi? Obama can't officially figure in a current "agenda" because he's not currently an officeholder. So the choices made by the cartoonist were deliberate and they were made on the basis of a cartoonist's racialist perspective.

The cartoonist might even deny it if confronted, but that's what it is. Most people with those almost unconscious attitudes do indeed deny it. Birthers will deny being racist, but Birtherism is subtly racist. They argue their suspicions that Obama was really born in Kenya because his Kenyan father was black, and the pursuit of that story beyond all reason had an underlying racist motivation.

About the only racists who are honest about their racism are KKK members proud to march down the street in their hoods and sheets, or neo-nazi white-supremacist militia members. Those people are up front about it.

But the length, breadth, and depth of American racism makes the overt variety a snowflake on the tip of the iceberg, by comparison.

Well yeah, it's clearly racist. Or, being more charitable than it deserves, one could argue it's not expressing race hatred, exactly, but rather fear of some imaginary, scary, black agenda. Perhaps the cartoonist was as oblivious as PCgeek to what they were actually letting slip, because that anxiety is such a deep trait of the US right, it's in the very air they breath and maybe they can't even see it. As any other sort of political comment it just makes no sense, because neither of those two are any more radical than Biden himself.

 

[Meghan54]

Nice speech...

It is still funny.

Given that Garrison has been long an anti-Semite and a racist, demonstrated by damned near every fucking political cartoon he's ever generated (Michelle Obama's "penis bulge" ring a bell?), not surprising you find his work funny.

Birds of a feather.....

 

[pcgeek11]

I honestly don't know anything about Mr. Garrison.

I do remember the bulge cartoon however. Didn't do much for me...

 

[Meghan54]

I honestly don't know anything about Mr. Garrison.

I do remember the bulge cartoon however. Didn't do much for me...

Of course you don't. I forgot you're one of the most uninformed individuals in P&N.

 

[pcgeek11]

Of course you don't. I forgot you're one of the most uninformed individuals in P&N.

I guess unlike you that knows everything about everybody...

 

[cytg111]

Im pissed at Biden cause
- He has no leveled Fox yet (fairness doctrine).
- Filibuster is still in place (voting rights, national voting holidays).
- Trump the seditionist is still a free man.
- Still no real consequences for Putin.
- Right to work laws still in place.

Can he host Zelenskij already?

 

[ch33zw1z]

I guess unlike you that knows everything about everybody...

Do you know what a straw man is?

The "who, me?" Is pretty lame here, but it's your thang. Maybe take a few to learn. There's a reason the cartoon made you, specifically, laugh while others see it for what it is. Hint: context

 

[Pohemi]

Of course you don't. I forgot you're one of the most uninformed individuals in P&N.

I guess unlike you that knows everything about everybody...

The "who, me?" Is pretty lame here, but it's your thang.

The funniest part is that his eyeroll is most applicable to himself, but his projection is typical and expected.

 

[brycejones]

Guys pcgeek has had a discussion with his black friend and hasn’t referred to “you blacks” in almost a year. Totally not racist.

 

[cytg111]

The funniest part is that his eyeroll is most applicable to himself, but his projection is typical and expected.

He once posted something about "the bad shit" he did overseas, I guess he needs to rationalize and project? Anyway, dont think there's a coming back for him, he'll simmer in his own hell hole till its time.

 

[Meghan54]

I guess unlike you that knows everything about everybody...

Well, here you go, braindead...this is one of Garrison's finest pieces of "work", I guess, for an alt-right idiot:

BTW....you sure knew who you were writing about when you posted in the thread about this exact cartoon...forget so soon, dipshit?

HINT: May 19, 2016...and you couldn't keep from making snide comments even back then. Guess it's a thumb's up for being consistent.

 

[HomerJS]

Trump never lied about Khashoggi, he used his usual mob boss way of communicating about it. Maybe, maybe not, probably, but you can't conclude anything...so on and so forth.
He might as well have, because the results were the same, MBS lost nothing while Trump was in office.

Here is Trump admitting to Bob Woodward admitting he saved MBS. He did that by lying about the report.
Trump told Bob Woodward he "saved" Saudi crown prince's "ass" after brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi | Salon.com

 

[brycejones]

He once posted something about "the bad shit" he did overseas, I guess he needs to rationalize and project? Anyway, dont think there's a coming back for him, he'll simmer in his own hell hole till its time.

What "bad shit" could pcgeek do overseas except some fucked up sexual shit? His service was in subs.

He probably never told his wife about his "adventures" in Thailand and the Philippines I guess. Hopefully she didn't catch anything.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Obama has him by the hair and shoulder and Kamala signing by using Bidens hand. The expressions on their faces.

What are your thoughts? Do you think it is racist too?

What about Obama and Kamala doing that is funny? What is the comic trying to say by setting up that scenario?

I'm not 100% on it being racist, but I can definitely see it being interpreted as such. After all, why is Obama there? He's not in office, and he's stayed out of the spotlight. I haven't seen anything in the news to suggest he's influencing Biden's actions or policy. So in my mind, there is 0 reason for Obama to be there. But since he is there, there's are only a handful of reasons left as to why he might be included...
At least Kamala is VP, so you could make the argument that Biden is merely a puppet, even though there is 0 evidence to suggest such a thing.

 

[cytg111]

What about Obama and Kamala doing that is funny? What is the comic trying to say by setting up that scenario?

I'm not 100% on it being racist, but I can definitely see it being interpreted as such. After all, why is Obama there? He's not in office, and he's stayed out of the spotlight. I haven't seen anything in the news to suggest he's influencing Biden's actions or policy. So in my mind, there is 0 reason for Obama to be there. But since he is there, there's are only a handful of reasons left as to why he might be included...
At least Kamala is VP, so you could make the argument that Biden is merely a puppet, even though there is 0 evidence to suggest such a thing.

pcgeek answer: That is YOUR opinion, I just found it funny.

 

[brycejones]

pcgeek answer: That is YOUR opinion, I just found it funny.

Funny pcgeek11 always finds racist shit funny....that's a really funny pattern.