Joe Biden is pissing me off thread

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NWRMidnight

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The pipeline is better and safer than transport by rail and barges. Less accidents, less of a carbon footprint. Biden is going to kill energy jobs in this country, no doubt about it.

That said, I doubt Biden has enough brain activity and focus to have authored these executive orders so far. I have long said he's a puppet, controlled by ideologues and this is going to become much more apparent in the coming months. They write and he rubber stamps what his handlers tell him to. You know it's bad when some Dems are saying he should not have sole access to the nuclear football.

We're losing the border, which was doing much better.
Now we're bombing Syria.
America last is back.
Leadership from behind is back.
Appeasement is back.
Security through strength is gone.
We look weak, foreign countries smell it and are testing us.

We're headed for more wars, an economy in shambles, etc.
They're trying to pass a partisan COVID relief plan of 1.9 Trillion, where only around 9-10% is about actual COVID relief, and more about bailing out the blue states that were irresponsible on everything to riot control to COVID management. It's full of way more pork than we should be financing.

Apparently they feel focusing on LGBTQ equality rights is a more pressing issue than aid to American families who are struggling. Everything is so upside down.

While the left may hate Trump, he was doing a lot of things much better for the country than Biden. Biden will turn out to be one of the biggest mistakes the voters ever made. What will be left of the country will be the evidence of this.

Boats are the safest of all transportation for transporting oil (this includes barges you idiot). I already posted that information. I tried to find something that would dumb down the information for you and others like you, who are mentally challenged, but I couldn't find anything that included stick figures drawn with a sharpie.

The rest of your list is rubbish. Trump spent 4 years taking us to last place, domestically and globally. I know it's impossible for you to see that with your head shoved so tightly up Trump's ass. But at some point you might want to attempt in disengaging your head from his ass, as oxygen deprivation causes brain damage.....


oops.. never mind, to late!!!
 
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pcgeek11

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Nicely sidestepping giving YOUR opinion on what it means, which, btw, was asked for.


He didn't ask for MY Opinion of what it means.

He said:
"What is that even supposed to mean? That Biden is some sort of puppet of Obama and Harris?"

I thought that was obvious. I guess some are a bit slow. :rolleyes:
 

Indus

Lifer
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The pipeline is better and safer than transport by rail and barges. Less accidents, less of a carbon footprint. Biden is going to kill energy jobs in this country, no doubt about it.

That said, I doubt Biden has enough brain activity and focus to have authored these executive orders so far. I have long said he's a puppet, controlled by ideologues and this is going to become much more apparent in the coming months. They write and he rubber stamps what his handlers tell him to. You know it's bad when some Dems are saying he should not have sole access to the nuclear football.

We're losing the border, which was doing much better.
Now we're bombing Syria.
America last is back.
Leadership from behind is back.
Appeasement is back.
Security through strength is gone.
We look weak, foreign countries smell it and are testing us.

We're headed for more wars, an economy in shambles, etc.
They're trying to pass a partisan COVID relief plan of 1.9 Trillion, where only around 9-10% is about actual COVID relief, and more about bailing out the blue states that were irresponsible on everything to riot control to COVID management. It's full of way more pork than we should be financing.

Apparently they feel focusing on LGBTQ equality rights is a more pressing issue than aid to American families who are struggling. Everything is so upside down.

While the left may hate Trump, he was doing a lot of things much better for the country than Biden. Biden will turn out to be one of the biggest mistakes the voters ever made. What will be left of the country will be the evidence of this.

I AM SO HAPPY Compuwiz is showing what a fucking genocidal piece of dog shit inbred cuckold bleach drinking dingbat he really is!
 

pmv

Lifer
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What it means is that they think Joe is a puppet president being used by Obama, Kamala and the Democratic party.

So the big accusation is that a centrist, moderate conservative-leaning Democrat President is in fact secretly the puppet of...two other centrist, moderate, conserative-leaning Democrats? (Just younger ones who are more coherent public speakers)?

People thought they were getting a moderate, and in fact they are getting....two moderates! Yes, well that's quite a scandal, I must say.


Seems clear it's about race - i.e. fear of black people having any power - as there seems to be no ideological point being made as there's no significant ideological difference 'twixt Biden and those two. If they'd wanted to make a (still paranoid and implausible, but non-racist) political accusation they could have opted for Sanders and AOC, maybe. Pelosi and Hilary would have been another option, given the latter's sheer unpopularity, though then it would be clearly about misogyny. Either way it's just stupid, as there's no evidence of Biden being anybody's "puppet".
 
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PowerEngineer

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Like most threads here in P&N, the exchange has already spiraled away from reasoned discussion. Nonetheless, I will add a couple of thoughts.

First, the Keystone XL pipeline would primarily benefit Canada and the province of Alberta. Thoughts that the pipeline would bring import oil needed by the United States were completely dashed by the present oil glut brought about by fracking. More oil from Canada isn't going to help the US one bit. The pipeline would only provide another option for Canada to export oil to other countries. It is therefore amusing that ramming this pipeline through became a top priority of a president who was supposedly laser focused on putting "America First" (and now is cancelled by a president supposedly taking a broader view).

Second, how soon we all forget how dangerously inept Trump proved to be in his handling of tensions with North Korea. Engaging in petty name calling and a "mine is bigger" war of words with Kim Jung Un was dangerously irresponsible and IMHO about as warhawkish as you could get.
 

pcgeek11

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So the big accusation is that a centrist, moderate conservative-leaning Democrat President is in fact secretly the puppet of...two other centrist, moderate, conserative-leaning Democrats? (Just younger ones who are more coherent public speakers)?

People thought they were getting a moderate, and in fact they are getting....two moderates! Yes, well that's quite a scandal, I must say.


Seems clear it's about race - i.e. fear of black people having any power - as there seems to be no ideological point being made as there's no significant ideological difference 'twixt Biden and those two. If they'd wanted to make a (still paranoid and implausible, but non-racist) political accusation they could have opted for Sanders and AOC, maybe. Pelosi and Hilary would have been another option, given the latter's sheer unpopularity, though then it would be clearly about misogyny. Either way it's just stupid, as there's no evidence of Biden being anybody's "puppet".


As I said Eye of the beholder... Example: You see it as a racist comment where many do not.

As far as what the Cartoonist actually meant, well you would need to discuss that with him.

I thought it was funny myself.
 

Leeea

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Anyone who thinks Biden is some puppet of Obama and Kamala or whatever needs to check their furnace for carbon monoxide emissions. Perhaps send the houses drinking water in for lead testing.

There are some clear cogitative failures on demonstration.
 

ch33zw1z

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As I said Eye of the beholder... Example: You see it as a racist comment where many do not.

As far as what the Cartoonist actually meant, well you would need to discuss that with him.

I thought it was funny myself.

Who, me?

Of course you found it "just funny".
 
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zinfamous

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So the big accusation is that a centrist, moderate conservative-leaning Democrat President is in fact secretly the puppet of...two other centrist, moderate, conserative-leaning Democrats? (Just younger ones who are more coherent public speakers)?

People thought they were getting a moderate, and in fact they are getting....two moderates! Yes, well that's quite a scandal, I must say.


Seems clear it's about race - i.e. fear of black people having any power - as there seems to be no ideological point being made as there's no significant ideological difference 'twixt Biden and those two. If they'd wanted to make a (still paranoid and implausible, but non-racist) political accusation they could have opted for Sanders and AOC, maybe. Pelosi and Hilary would have been another option, given the latter's sheer unpopularity, though then it would be clearly about misogyny. Either way it's just stupid, as there's no evidence of Biden being anybody's "puppet".

it's amazing how racists like pc geek don't see the implicit racism in the evil, jigaboo-like expressions given to Obama and Harris. This cartoon crammed all of the anti-african, anti-semitic, anti-muslim iconography into those figures, all at once.

I mean, in no way do those look anything like Obama or Harris, or how they have EVER appeared anywhere in public, but racists like pc geek see that as a spitting image: because the clear, unmistakable intent that pulls from decades of specifically racist iconography is well established in his brain as "correct." He doesn't even have to know it. (e.g. this is how propaganda works). Seriously--let's challenge pc geek to find an actual picture of a snarling Obama or Harris. When you're raised on the myth of the "predatory black male" and "uppity black female," you look at this kind of thing and accept it as accurate.

pc geek doesn't understand it because it is normal to him. he doesn't have the type of education where he has been exposed to the history of this type of symbolism, and what it means, and how it is used as a weapon against his brain. It is extremely effective on people like him, because propaganda works really well. Educated people understand the history of these things, because you used our time in our various schools learning; not pretending that we were smarter than our teachers that only ever gave us Cs while we jacked off under our desks.

racists like pc geek don't understand the simple, obvious racism in this kind of propaganda because it is the type of work that has always appealed to them, because it reinforces what they already think. He doesn't have to be able to express, or even understand that directly, but his subconscious accepts it as right. racism is the foundation of his being, and you don't have to be able to acknowledge it or even accept it for it to absolutely be who you are.

and no, it's not "just satire." There is direct historical precedent to this kind of trash. It is racist trash created by a racist, only to appeal to racists. There really is no other argument to have there.
 

Jaskalas

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forcing refugees who are escaping life threatening situations to stay in Mexico, where they are being exploited and may still be in a life threatening situation, is not ethically or morally right.

It is not ethical or morally right to increase this nation's population either. Every mouth we have to feed will bring us that much closer to Thunderdome dystopia. Democrats are flat out wrong on immigration. Americans need to control and greatly limit / reduce growth. Not encourage it. The land stripping and pollution of 200m Americans would have been greatly preferred over 400/600 million Americans. Assuming there is no limit to the number you want to live here. At 330 million we needed it to end yesteryear.
 

Jaskalas

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War..... One thing I did like about Donald Trump, about the only thing I liked, was that Donald Trump was not a Warhawk. Several times the military forces tried to drag Trump into military operations abroad and time after time Donald Trump resisted. But now??? Here we are barely weeks into a Biden administration and America is at it again, getting involved in the middle east with military operations.

We do not belong there. But Trump had a raging boner for stealing oil from Syria and Iraq. So we kept forces in Syria where they do not belong. Those forces were attacked. Biden allowed us to retaliate. Biden has done nothing wrong (yet) in this regard. Aside from the fact that we are still present in Syria / Iraq. But I do give him time to make the correct move before I complain about it. Biden has only been President for a month, and we do have crises at home that need attention first. Before we alter the status quo militarily.

I find your complaint either premature or lacking substance.
 

ch33zw1z

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It is not ethical or morally right to increase this nation's population either. Every mouth we have to feed will bring us that much closer to Thunderdome dystopia. Democrats are flat out wrong on immigration. Americans need to control and greatly limit / reduce growth. Not encourage it. The land stripping and pollution of 200m Americans would have been greatly preferred over 400/600 million Americans. Assuming there is no limit to the number you want to live here. At 330 million we needed it to end yesteryear.

Ok, cool. Then limit corporate immigration schemes, dreamers get automatic citizenship, and close the borders. While you're at it, heavily penalize employers of illegal immigrants, and tell American's they're going to do all the "shit" jobs now, but simultaneously increase minimum wage further than we're even considering now. Oh, and prepare to pay more, bigtime, for products.
 
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Jaskalas

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Ok, cool. Then limit corporate immigration schemes, dreamers get automatic citizenship, and close the borders. While you're at it, heavily penalize employers of illegal immigrants, and tell American's they're going to do all the "shit" jobs now, but simultaneously increase minimum wage further than we're even considering now. Oh, and prepare to pay more, bigtime, for products.

"It's cheap" and "lets abuse labor" are rather piss poor reasons for committing ourselves towards environmental devastation and societal collapse.
 

ch33zw1z

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"It's cheap" and "lets abuse labor" are rather piss poor reasons for committing ourselves towards environmental devastation and societal collapse.

Right, ignoring the fact that this is our history all the way thru today, do you disagree with what I said? I'm with ya here, but to hang it all on the Democrats is just a tribal jab not based on reality.
 
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hal2kilo

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Right, ignoring the fact that this is our history all the way thru today, do you disagree with what I said? I'm with ya here, but to hang it all on the Democrats is just a tribal jab not based on reality.
He's seems to think the answer to the Dems problems is to have our own Trump apparently. And just charge in like a bull in a china shop. And getter done!
 
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HomerJS

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The pipeline is better and safer than transport by rail and barges. Less accidents, less of a carbon footprint. Biden is going to kill energy jobs in this country, no doubt about it.

That said, I doubt Biden has enough brain activity and focus to have authored these executive orders so far. I have long said he's a puppet, controlled by ideologues and this is going to become much more apparent in the coming months. They write and he rubber stamps what his handlers tell him to. You know it's bad when some Dems are saying he should not have sole access to the nuclear football.

We're losing the border, which was doing much better.
Now we're bombing Syria.
America last is back.
Leadership from behind is back.
Appeasement is back.
Security through strength is gone.
We look weak, foreign countries smell it and are testing us.

We're headed for more wars, an economy in shambles, etc.
They're trying to pass a partisan COVID relief plan of 1.9 Trillion, where only around 9-10% is about actual COVID relief, and more about bailing out the blue states that were irresponsible on everything to riot control to COVID management. It's full of way more pork than we should be financing.

Apparently they feel focusing on LGBTQ equality rights is a more pressing issue than aid to American families who are struggling. Everything is so upside down.

While the left may hate Trump, he was doing a lot of things much better for the country than Biden. Biden will turn out to be one of the biggest mistakes the voters ever made. What will be left of the country will be the evidence of this.
Still kissing the ass of the guy who let a bounty on our troops placed by Putin go unanswered?

Still kissing the ass of the guy who took the word of a murderous dictator over our own intelligence agencies?

BTW - Looks like your hero lied about the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi. Anything to say about that?

BTW - That so called partisan COVID bill has the approval of 76% of the American people, helps red and blue states. It even has the approval of 60% of Republicans. What part of your pea brain concludes this is PARTISAN?????
 
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shortylickens

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I wonder if maybe we can debate politics without insulting each other.

Or are we just a microcosm of America as a whole? In which case no, we cannot do it.