Joe Biden advises shooting into the air for home defense

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  1. Fern

    Fern Elite Member <br> Super Moderator
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    Yeah, but remember the guy he shot was a lawyer. You'll getcha some bonus points for that.

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  2. waggy

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    negative points. the lawyer lived. :twisted:
     
  3. GreenMeters

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    Sounds great until the shadow in the dark that you've identified as a threat and decided to silently target turns out to be your wife tip-toeing in after working late or your teenager sneaking in after curfew.
     
  4. Hayabusa Rider

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    It's also reasonable to assume that can get you killed. I'm not going to play the game of 6 year olds where you find some ridiculous out of context example. Joe didn't mean pirates. Both he and you know that. Only an idiot would potentially expose themselves to an intruder or give their position away, but Joe has demonstrated himself to be one. Maybe he should be having out whistles to women.
     
  5. Doppel

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    You're off on a tangent, trying to discuss something here that isn't being discussed, that the target is now of questionable identify, and if he is you shouldn't be firing anyway, not taking a half-committal stance of firing into the air.

    Those trying to defend this air practice should at least try and find some substantive literature defending the practice. Find us one law enforcement academy that recommends warning shots.
     
  6. xj0hnx

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    You'll find a lot more people that got in trouble for doing it. Firing a warning shot is completely counter to self defense shooting, and for the vice president to be advocating it is highly irresponsible. You should not be firing your weapon at anything except something you intend to kill, and only when your life is in danger. Biden's wild west, firing willy nilly, warning shots bullshit should be called out for the highly irresponsible crock of shit that it is, and he should never again speak in the realm of firearms.
     
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    A nice article by the Weekly Standard calling out Biden for his illegal "advice".

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-advises-gun-owners-act-illegally_703076.html

     
  8. boomerang

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    Biden is always an idiot. It's just not as obvious when he's not talking.

    Something happens to Obama and Biden is the Commander in Chief. He'll probably blab the launch codes in a manner of minutes after being sworn in.
     
  9. sourn

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    Ever heard of a warning shot. That's basically what he is suggesting. And it shouldn't take you any longer then a couple seconds max to reload a dbl shotgun.

    That said that's about the only good point he has. Sure you don't need 30 rounds, but why not have them just in case it's more then one person.

    As far as mass murder these idiots contradict themselves. They say most people wouldn't be able to hit the murder/react in a manor that wouldn't cause more causalities. But supposedly making smaller mags well let people take them down in a matter of seconds? What type of screwed up logic is that.
     
  10. Darwin333

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    If someone has broken into your house while you are home then yes, firing a gun at someone is perfectly legal in most states. And yes, stopping the bad guy is a hellofa lot safer than essentially unarming yourself.


    Its not nitpicking, its probably the most important part of the story. The gun holds two rounds, he said fire two rounds, the gun no longer has any ammunition in it. Why in the hell would it be "nitpicking" to point out that if you are potentially about to be in a life or death situation that having shells in your gun just might be a good idea?

    I assume you are talking about common sense.
    Not always but if you must protect your life with deadly force it sure would be nice to have the ability to wouldn't it?
     
  11. Darwin333

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    A double barrel shotgun does not except an external magazine.
     
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    Fixed the link for you.

    If you fire a warning shot, that says that you didn't really feel that your life was in eminent danger or you wouldn't have wasted time shooting into the air or what have you. And if you don't feel that your life is in immediate danger, you have no business firing a gun at all.
     
  14. TechBoyJK

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    wow you're either really dumb or trolling.. or possibly too dumb to realize you are trolling.

    Do you know what a shotgun is? How they work?

    You should google it.
     
  15. Darwin333

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    Or he could reasonably think that you are shooting at him and immediately return fire while you fumble with shells trying to reload. Its simply a retarded thing to do. If you absolutely must warn the bad guy its a far better (but still bad imo) idea to do it verbally than to use all of the ammunition in your gun.
     
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    Which is why you identify your target before you shoot. Which is as common sense as "look both ways before you cross the street." It's also why weapon-lights were invented.
     
  17. Nintendesert

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    There's a reason you don't shoot warning shots, you have no idea where those bullets are going to land. You can kill someone with falling bullets.

    You don't put innocent people at risk because you're unwilling to use a gun against a trespasser. If you can't fire your gun at the intruder then don't own a gun. Period.

    The intruder forfeited their life when they broke into a home, someone a few blocks over sure as hell didn't. You don't ever discharge a weapon without knowing where those bullets are going to hit. Biden as usual is a fucking moron and anyone defending him just because there's a big D next to his name is an even bigger moron.