Joe Biden advises shooting into the air for home defense

DucatiMonster696

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That was pathetic.

Truly I can't believe this guy is allowed to dictate and push the anti-2nd amendment agenda at tax payer expense.
 

Fenixgoon

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i like how he said "get a shotgun - you don't need an AR-15"

considering 00buckshot will make a mess of anything compared to 223 or 556, you could argue he's actually advocating for what could be considered a significantly more lethal firearm :awe:
 

skyking

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I watched the video and nowhere did he say to shoot it into the air. He simply did not specify, maybe he wanted her to blast the pool noodles? :)
 

mizzou

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shotgun is by FAR superior in home defense, and also to reduce collateral damage.

A shower of .223 going through walls like a laserbeam is not kind to your neighbors.

UNLESS you live in a ranch and you really want to hit some targets downrange. AR-15 is more of a SHTF weapon, something much more multipurpose then shooting from inside your home.
 

xj0hnx

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Yea, just step out on the balcony and fire into the air, not only will your neighbors love you, but so will the robber since now your gun is empty. It's hard to believe a man this stupid is the vice president, I mean holy hell, he makes Bush sound like a scholar.
 

jackstar7

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Yea, just step out on the balcony and fire into the air, not only will your neighbors love you, but so will the robber since now your gun is empty.

You keep a single round of ammunition in your firearms? That's weird.
 

xj0hnx

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shotgun is by FAR superior in home defense, and also to reduce collateral damage.

A shower of .223 going through walls like a laserbeam is not kind to your neighbors.

UNLESS you live in a ranch and you really want to hit some targets downrange. AR-15 is more of a SHTF weapon, something much more multipurpose then shooting from inside your home.

In what world do you live that a shotgun isn't going to blow through your typical sheetrock, interior house wall? A singe shotgun shell can send just as many projectiles through a wall as a few squeezes from an AR.
 

xj0hnx

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You keep a single round of ammunition in your firearms? That's weird.

Either you're as stupid as Biden, or didn't watch the video where Biden suggest firing two blast from a double barrel shotgun willy nilly into the air. My guess is the first one.
 

Fenixgoon

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shotgun is by FAR superior in home defense, and also to reduce collateral damage.

A shower of .223 going through walls like a laserbeam is not kind to your neighbors.

UNLESS you live in a ranch and you really want to hit some targets downrange. AR-15 is more of a SHTF weapon, something much more multipurpose then shooting from inside your home.

00buckshot will penetrate far more than 223 or 556. it's all about choice of ammunition in the case of a shotgun.

for reference: bullet penetration after going through an intermediate barrier
http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/DocGKRData/WoundProfilesAfterWallBarrier.jpg
 

Double Trouble

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Hard to believe that someone as intellectually inept as this man could conceivably become the most powerful man in the world if something happened to president Obama.
 

Veliko

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Gun nuts nitpicking on irrelevant details, just so that they don't have address the actual point?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell thee.
 

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Hard to believe that someone as intellectually inept as this man could conceivably become the most powerful man in the world if something happened to president Obama.

He only has to be a hack. Does he ever have to answer intelligent questions BTW? It seems like this debate is steered by people without a clue.
 

Doppel

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Gun nuts nitpicking on irrelevant details, just so that they don't have address the actual point?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell thee.
what was the actual point?

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In Biden's defense, it's not all quite as stupid as vomiting on a rapist to scare him away. University of Colo new guidelines on avoiding rape, just after passing a law against concealed carry. As I enjoy pointing out the vast majority of mass shootings happen in so called gun free zones, these are irresponsible laws.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...es-students-to-urinate-vomit-to-stop-rapists/

These people live in some strange world.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Gun nuts nitpicking on irrelevant details, just so that they don't have address the actual point?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell thee.

The actual point is that Bidens suggestion is a fine prescription for suicide. Have you ever heard of LEO or the military firing limited ammo to scare of criminals as a matter of course? No, and if you were to try to have that as a new standard they'd laugh at you.
 

Veliko

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The actual point is that Bidens suggestion is a fine prescription for suicide. Have you ever heard of LEO or the military firing limited ammo to scare of criminals as a matter of course? No, and if you were to try to have that as a new standard they'd laugh at you.

So firing a gun when there's an intruder in your house is suicide?
 

Genx87

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i like how he said "get a shotgun - you don't need an AR-15"

considering 00buckshot will make a mess of anything compared to 223 or 556, you could argue he's actually advocating for what could be considered a significantly more lethal firearm :awe:

I enjoy listening to Biden and Obama lecture us about how ineffective AR-15s at home defense. Or that we dont need these "assault weapons" to defend ourselves from intruders. Or my favotire liberal lie. That these weapons are ineffective against the govt if all hell broke loose. All the while they ship thousands of them across the globe to people to fight their govts with these weapons.
 
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The actual point is that Bidens suggestion is a fine prescription for suicide. Have you ever heard of LEO or the military firing limited ammo to scare of criminals as a matter of course? No, and if you were to try to have that as a new standard they'd laugh at you.

Really? So if I google Navy fires warning shots Somali Pirates I don't get reems and reems of articles about how they use such an action as a deterrent?

Here let's try that.


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/09/24/somalia.pirates/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,278135,00.html
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/world/danish-ship-fires-on-somali-pirates-204560/

Seems a standard practice really.
 
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