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Lifer
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Wait, are you saying pedestrians jaywalking is the driver's fault?


I'm saying there's no such thing as "jaywalking", it was something invented by the US auto manufacturers to divert blame from their product and its users onto their victims. Almost no other country has such a concept in their laws.

And, yes, while it _is_ possible for someone to suddenly jump out in front of a car such that the driver couldn't be blamed for not avoiding them, most of the time it's a case of the driver driving too fast and not paying enough attention.
Anyway, not the thread for it. But I'm regularly irritated by those sorts of 'road safety' campaigns.
 
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sdifox

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I'm saying there's no such thing as "jaywalking", it was something invented by the US auto manufacturers to divert blame from their product and its users onto their victims. Almost no other country has such a concept in their laws.

And, yes, while it _is_ possible for someone to suddenly jump out in front of a car such that the driver couldn't be blamed for not avoiding them, most of the time it's a case of the driver driving too fast and not paying enough attention.
Anyway, not the thread for it. But I'm regularly irritated by those sorts of 'road safety' campaigns.

Yeah jaywalking is a real thing here in NA.

https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/road-safety/driving-safely/stopping-distances/graph

At 40kmh, it would take 27m for the car to stop from the moment the driver notices the pedestrian. If you come out from behind a truck, I would try my best to stop the car, but there is a limit to how much I can do to not kill you.

Frogger is an arcade game, do not be the frog in real life.
 
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BudAshes

Lifer
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I'm saying there's no such thing as "jaywalking", it was something invented by the US auto manufacturers to divert blame from their product and its users onto their victims. Almost no other country has such a concept in their laws.

And, yes, while it _is_ possible for someone to suddenly jump out in front of a car such that the driver couldn't be blamed for not avoiding them, most of the time it's a case of the driver driving too fast and not paying enough attention.
Anyway, not the thread for it. But I'm regularly irritated by those sorts of 'road safety' campaigns.

That's true, in many other countries they just step on the gas and turn on the wipers.
 

zinfamous

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I'm saying there's no such thing as "jaywalking", it was something invented by the US auto manufacturers to divert blame from their product and its users onto their victims. Almost no other country has such a concept in their laws.

Have you ever been to Switzerland?