Jesus christ - young people suck at voting

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"Intelligence has nothing to do with politics!"

Like older people are any better - it's because of the older crowds that we had Bush for 8 years.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: torpid
Yeah, older people are clearly quite skilled at voting. I mean, they've never accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan or anything.

You don't know that they did, what you know is that lawyers and political hacks claimed it would be easy for them to have gotten confused and accidently voted that way.

Well, there were actual voters who complained that they voted incorrectly too. They could have been lying, I guess. But the evidence was pretty substantial that the spike in Buchanan's votes in those areas was not in keeping with the known political demographic.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: dethman
what about the state congressman on msnbc? (?) who supported obama but couldn't tell the news guy about obama's political record? that guy was old. by your awesome generalization methods, that means all old people are idiots too. so looks like everyone cancels each other out.

I said young people suck at voting - not all old people are good at voting
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: child of wonder
Originally posted by: Xylitol
http://www.971freefm.com/pages/4103.php

Look at the 3rd podcast: "Those Young Voters" and skip through to the callers. Many of them are Obama supporters and don't know crap about his policies although they claim to like his policies.

Example:
Host: So what do you like about Obama?
Caller: I like his new plans on Social Security
Host: Oh really, what is it?
Caller: Ummm - I'm not so sure

I like Obama and Clinton, but these voters are retarded - smart people need to vote to cancel out these idiots

Don't turn this into a politics thread - it's just for bashing stupid voters

How is this different from some older voters?

Politician: JESUS JESUS JESUS GOD GOD GOD JESUS JESUS CREATIONISM!!!!!!
Voter: I'm voting for him!

it's not - but older voters know more than younger people on the whole
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?
 

pyonir

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There was that guy that posted a thread here and didn't know if the main presidential election was in February or November. :roll:
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: pyonir
There was that guy that posted a thread here and didn't know if the main presidential election was in February or November. :roll:

WTF?!
 

cubby1223

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I live in Illinois. It'll be a landslide win for Obama. Doesn't matter what my views are on the presidential election and the issues at hand. I can be as educated as possible, spread the word to everyone I know. Won't make a blip of a difference.
 

JTsyo

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We can change the system so that instead of names we have a statement from the candidates on their policy & history and you have to pick based on that.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

to keep the country closer to how the Founding Fathers imagined? States that are 'sovereign' with a federal government residing over them?
The electoral college needs to stay, or else you are implying we radically change the country from a state based entity, to one where no states exist. A state should be more than another item in your address to you.

Originally posted by: nonameo
Originally posted by: Jeff7
I still wish they'd have a few options on there:

1) None of the above
2) Format and reinstall Washington DC

Isn't that about like formatting and reinstalling windows ME?

nah.. it's like formatting an install of XP which is loaded with viruses and adware and starting fresh. Sure, it's prone to bugs and corruption, but at least it starts fresh with the original settings in place. ;)
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today

Or perhaps you did. ;)
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today

Or perhaps you did. ;)

Ok thanks - I learned that your curriculum was different
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today

Or perhaps you did. ;)

Ok thanks - I learned that your curriculum was different

or perhaps you misunderstand the electoral college? Electors vote with the popular opinion of their state.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today

Or perhaps you did. ;)

Ok thanks - I learned that your curriculum was different

or perhaps you misunderstand the electoral college? Electors vote with the popular opinion of their state.

Yes but they still use some discretion - why else do you think Al Gore lost to George Bush (whether they're supposed to use that discretion or not)
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today

Or perhaps you did. ;)

Ok thanks - I learned that your curriculum was different

or perhaps you misunderstand the electoral college? Electors vote with the popular opinion of their state.

Yes but they still use some discretion - why else do you think Al Gore lost to George Bush (whether they're supposed to use that discretion or not)

TINFOIL HATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

BigPoppa

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Originally posted by: Alphathree33
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I don't think that this is that big of a deal. I am 100% certain that if you went to the nursing home and interviewed people as they were getting on the buses to go to the polls, you would find just as big of a gap between who they are voting for and what that person's stances or policy initiatives are.

What most people don't take into account is that the average IQ of the US is 98. Now take into consideration that 50% of the population is lower than that......

Actually, if the average IQ is 98, that doesn't mean that 50% is lower than that. That would be the case if the MEDIAN IQ was 98.

I guess you're in the lower 50%.

Well, considering IQ is accepted as following a normal model (no left/right-skew), the mean and median are the same. Intro to Stats much? Love the last line there, too. Maybe you should brush up on basic statistics again.