Jesus christ - young people suck at voting

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today

Or perhaps you did.

Ok thanks - I learned that your curriculum was different

or perhaps you misunderstand the electoral college? Electors vote with the popular opinion of their state.

Yes but they still use some discretion - why else do you think Al Gore lost to George Bush (whether they're supposed to use that discretion or not)

TINFOIL HATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are open to use discretion (i think...?), but never do. That is why you never see a state go "oh, well 22 of our electors will vote for this guy, and 2 of them decided to be a pain in the ass and go for this guy. sorry!". I'm not sure if an individual elector can enter a vote against the state majority opinion, as I've never heard of it happening... but seeing as states always give their electorate votes to the candidate that won the majority opinion of that state... there isn't anything to argue. Why the electoral college always comes up is beyond me. Anyone with a decent grasp on history will know the relevance. Oh hmm, that's right... our country is full of idiots who do NOT know the history of the country and the reasons the government is structured the way it is... even if the way its structured now is not exactly how it was imagined back in the day. However with changing times, some things obviously have to change to accommodate for those changes. But the Local/State/Federal system must never change. We are a Federal Republic and that's the way it shall always be. At least, I'll do my part to make sure of that.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
And honestly, if you don't know who or what you are voting for, do the educated voters a favor and don't vote.

I agree - and people wonder why America still has the electoral college...

Might want to start out by educating yourself on why the US has the electoral college in the first place. It has nothing to do with the education or level of knowledge regarding issues of the day of the average voter.

Actually it does - it was created in the beginning of America because they believed that the general public was not educated enough to go with the popular vote

I take it that you didn't pay attention in 11th grade?

No, I paid attention in the 7th grade and they weren't using some version of "A People's History of the United States" when they taught American History and government. We went over it some more in high school in various government classes where we talked about all sorts of fun things the Founders considered when setting up our system including balancing Federal versus State power and the balancing of power among the States so that none would be totally irrelevant to the process.

Ok well - you learned something today

Or perhaps you did.

Ok thanks - I learned that your curriculum was different

or perhaps you misunderstand the electoral college? Electors vote with the popular opinion of their state.

Yes but they still use some discretion - why else do you think Al Gore lost to George Bush (whether they're supposed to use that discretion or not)

TINFOIL HATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are open to use discretion (i think...?), but never do. That is why you never see a state go "oh, well 22 of our electors will vote for this guy, and 2 of them decided to be a pain in the ass and go for this guy. sorry!". I'm not sure if an individual elector can enter a vote against the state majority opinion, as I've never heard of it happening... but seeing as states always give their electorate votes to the candidate that won the majority opinion of that state... there isn't anything to argue. Why the electoral college always comes up is beyond me. Anyone with a decent grasp on history will know the relevance. Oh hmm, that's right... our country is full of idiots who do NOT know the history of the country and the reasons the government is structured the way it is... even if the way its structured now is not exactly how it was imagined back in the day. However with changing times, some things obviously have to change to accommodate for those changes. But the Local/State/Federal system must never change. We are a Federal Republic and that's the way it shall always be. At least, I'll do my part to make sure of that.

I didn't mean that by open discretion (whoops)
They put the electoral college (i'm assuming because they think that at least 50% of the US is intelligent enough to vote intelligently)

 

[SirStev0]

It is not just the youth vote... it is about 85% of the people who vote...

Elections are no longer about issues or philosophies... they are about looks, soundbites and party devotion...

I have heard way to many people vote this way because they always vote this way

or because so and so looks believable... or even better because the news tells me this one will win...

Our political system has latched onto the 24 hour news that doesn't inform the public but makes ELECTION TV... now with more drama...

This year we have a token black guy, an uber fem woman, a grumpy old man, a nutso crazy doctor, a scum bag business man, and a zealot preacher of some sort... don't turn away or you will miss the crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyness!!

 

[Kelemvor]

Problem is when the candidates just spend all their time bashing the people running against them and never saying why we should vote for them.

Half the time I don't have a clue what anyone stands for because they never tell us.

Ever seen Brewster's Millions?

None of the Above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LPdTXRjIKQ

 

[Miramonti]

Ignorance isn't nearly as destructive as prejudice.

 

[mcmilljb]

If you thought young voters were dumb... Texas Democrats couldn't even hold a caucus! They should just stick to a primary.