Japan's Atomic Bomb

[PlatinumRice]

no, they had to GET the uranium to enrich first...

they had everything else, so they weren't very far away from a working prototype.

 

[sdifox]

they had everything else, so they weren't very far away from a working prototype.

that's like a Ferrari without the engine...or having a computer but no electricity.

 

[IronWing]

they had the tech to enrich uranium.

basically, they just had to put it in a bomb after that.

Quit making shit up. Japan did not have the industrial capacity to produce sufficient enriched uranium to build an atomic bomb.

 

[CLite]

they had the tech to enrich uranium.

basically, they just had to put it in a bomb after that.

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge - Darwin

 

[IronWing]

that's like a Ferrari without the engine...

And without an engine and no rubber to make tires and no steel to make an engine and no heat to make steel. The OP is so far off base on what it takes to build an A-bomb it's just stupid.

 

[PlatinumRice]

Quit making shit up. Japan did not have the industrial capacity to produce sufficient enriched uranium to build an atomic bomb.

like i said, they had everything else, they just needed to get a sufficient amount of uranium to make one.

 

[rommelrommel]

Which was virtually impossible.

 

[IronWing]

like i said, they had everything else, they just needed to get a sufficient amount of uranium to make one.

Again, quit making shit up.

 

[Exterous]

if they could have built 10 or so bombs, they would have done significant damage to the american fleet using kamikaze pilots.

And how quickly do you think Japan would be able to manufacture them? Most likely the US was only able to produce two additional bombs by the end of 1945 so you are looking at one every couple of months or at best.

So while you nuke a couple of carriers every couple of months (We only had around 100 or so. I am sure the loss of a couple every now and then would really slow the war effort ) you get two more atomic bombs dropped on japan as well as continued firebombing

This helps the Japanese how? (Assuming that they would even be able to produce 1 let alone 10)

 

[sdifox]

like i said, they had everything else, they just needed to get a sufficient amount of uranium to make one.

So, they could have just logged on to made-in-china.com and ordered some Enriched Urainium?

 

[PlatinumRice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1PvA6LOlhM&t=24m24s

if germany didn't screw up, they would have gotten enough for 2 bombs.

 

[sdifox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1PvA6LOlhM&t=24m24s

if germany didn't screw up, they would have gotten enough for 2 bombs.

You tend to screw up when Russian tanks are approaching fast...Yes, I know Germany shipped some to Japan... But it was a small quantity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program

Did you even watch the video you linked to? It said the firebombing killed more people than the nuke.... USA could have continued the firebombing til there is nothing to burn in Japan.

BTW, I watched that program before, on TV. It was interesting, but they did not imply what you are implying at all.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

like i said, they had everything else, they just needed to get a sufficient amount of uranium to make one.

And I'm close to time travel, I just need a flux capacitor to make my time machine.


You are unfathomably stupid.

 

[PlatinumRice]

what else did they need?

like they just need to enrich it and put it in a bomb.

 

[sdifox]

what else did they need?

like they just need to enrich it and put it in a bomb.

Enriching Uranium is not the same as enriching rice...

 

[PlatinumRice]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium#Thermal_diffusion

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1PvA6LOlhM&t=24m50s

it was working!!!!!! they just needed to put it in a bomb!!!!

 

[sdifox]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium#Thermal_diffusion

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1PvA6LOlhM&t=24m50s

it was working!!!!!! they just needed to put it in a bomb!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program


F-Go Project

In 1943 a different Japanese Naval command began a nuclear research program, the F-Go Project, under Bunsaku Arakatsu at the Imperial University, Kyoto. Arakatsu had spent some years studying abroad including at the Cavendish Laboratory at Cambridge under Ernest Rutherford and at Berlin University under Einstein. Next to Nishina, Arakatsu was the most notable nuclear physicist in Japan.[14] His team included Hideki Yukawa, who would become in 1949 the first Japanese physicist to receive a Nobel Prize.
Early on in the war Commander Kitagawa, head of the Navy Research Institute's Chemical Section, had requested Arakatsu to carry out work on the separation of Uranium-235. The work went slowly, but shortly before the end of the war he had designed an ultracentrifuge (to spin at 60,000 rpm) which he was hopeful would achieve the required results. Only the design of the machinery was completed before the Japanese surrender.[11][15]
Shortly after the surrender of Japan, the Manhattan Project's Atomic Bomb Mission, which had deployed to Japan in September, reported that the F-Go Project had obtained 20 grams a month of heavy water from electrolytic ammonia plants in Korea and Kyushu. In fact, the industrialist Jun Noguchi had launched a heavy water production program some years previously. In 1926 Noguchi founded the Korean Hydro Electric Company at Konan (now known as Hungnam) in north-eastern Korea: this became the site of an industrial complex producing ammonia for fertilizer production. However, despite the availability of a heavy-water production facility whose output could potentially have rivalled that of Norsk Hydro at Vemork in Norway, it appears that the Japanese did not carry out neutron-multiplication studies using heavy water as a moderator at Kyoto.[11]
Historian Rainer Karlsch has alleged that shortly before the end of the war US intelligence acquired information to the effect that Japanese scientists had planned to conduct a test of a nuclear weapon near Hungnam on 12 August 1945. However, this could not be verified as the Red Army occupied Konan a few days later, before US occupation authorities could investigate fully.[14]


They just had the design of the centrifuge just before they were nuked...ergo no enriched uranium.


And the fucker in your picture is about to be put in his place.

 

[PlatinumRice]

enriching uranium is the hardest part, the rest is child's play.

 

[sdifox]

enriching uranium is the hardest part, the rest is child's play.

Then what the hell are you arguing? You kept saying they could have gotten the a bomb, yet now you are saying enriching is the hardest part. Guess what Einstein, Japan didn't have enrichment.

 

[IronWing]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium#Thermal_diffusion

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1PvA6LOlhM&t=24m50s

it was working!!!!!! they just needed to put it in a bomb!!!!

Again ignorance is your only shield. While the US developed gas centrifuge enrichment during WWII it abandoned the program in favor of gaseous diffusion as centrifuge technology was not sufficiently advanced at the time. Again the idea of the thing does not equal the thing. If you have any inclination toward learning actual history instead of just making shit up I suggest you stop posting and go read the book I linked above.

 

[PlatinumRice]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program


F-Go Project

In 1943 a different Japanese Naval command began a nuclear research program, the F-Go Project, under Bunsaku Arakatsu at the Imperial University, Kyoto. Arakatsu had spent some years studying abroad including at the Cavendish Laboratory at Cambridge under Ernest Rutherford and at Berlin University under Einstein. Next to Nishina, Arakatsu was the most notable nuclear physicist in Japan.[14] His team included Hideki Yukawa, who would become in 1949 the first Japanese physicist to receive a Nobel Prize.
Early on in the war Commander Kitagawa, head of the Navy Research Institute's Chemical Section, had requested Arakatsu to carry out work on the separation of Uranium-235. The work went slowly, but shortly before the end of the war he had designed an ultracentrifuge (to spin at 60,000 rpm) which he was hopeful would achieve the required results. Only the design of the machinery was completed before the Japanese surrender.[11][15]
Shortly after the surrender of Japan, the Manhattan Project's Atomic Bomb Mission, which had deployed to Japan in September, reported that the F-Go Project had obtained 20 grams a month of heavy water from electrolytic ammonia plants in Korea and Kyushu. In fact, the industrialist Jun Noguchi had launched a heavy water production program some years previously. In 1926 Noguchi founded the Korean Hydro Electric Company at Konan (now known as Hungnam) in north-eastern Korea: this became the site of an industrial complex producing ammonia for fertilizer production. However, despite the availability of a heavy-water production facility whose output could potentially have rivalled that of Norsk Hydro at Vemork in Norway, it appears that the Japanese did not carry out neutron-multiplication studies using heavy water as a moderator at Kyoto.[11]
Historian Rainer Karlsch has alleged that shortly before the end of the war US intelligence acquired information to the effect that Japanese scientists had planned to conduct a test of a nuclear weapon near Hungnam on 12 August 1945. However, this could not be verified as the Red Army occupied Konan a few days later, before US occupation authorities could investigate fully.[14]


They just had the design of the centrifuge just before they were nuked...ergo no enriched uranium.


And the fucker in your picture is about to be put in his place.

centrifuge = one enrichment method
thermal diffusion = another enrichment method

after enriching enough uranium, you just have to design a bomb for it.

 

[sdifox]

centrifuge = one enrichment method
thermal diffusion = another enrichment method

after enriching enough uranium, you just have to design a bomb for it.

OMFG... You are thicker than a brick. Japan just had a design of a centrifuge, which means they didn't have it. Without it, they wouldn't know it was too slow.

You know we are talking 70 years ago right? Not this days and age where you have a nuclear brokerage to buy this shit from.

 

[Kev]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESoFyHEMFro



mind blown

do you have any idea of the scale and resources needed to build the first nuclear bomb. there is absolutely no way the lil' island of japan was close to anything.

 

[IronWing]

I guess it might be time to go to bed.

 

[sonambulo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESoFyHEMFro



mind blown

This weeaboo shit is embarrassing. For the whole board.


Knock it the fuck off.