I'm all for maintaining the status quo and opening direct flights between shanghai, taipei, and Beijing. It's ridiculous to have to fly south to HK or Macau just to fly north to Shanghai, a 90 minute trip turned in to a 3-5 hour trip with layover. Imagine the economic opportunities if that were to happen. Shuttle flights to and from Taipei/Shanghai every 15 minutes like those between Boston and NY. All this is just wishful thinking under Chen.
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Japan orders 80 F/A-22 Raptors!!
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Japan is cooperating closely with the United States on anti-ballistic missile technology and is probably going to serve as a linchpin in the US' ABM network given Japan's geographic proximity to some of the baddies, which benefits Japan as well obviously. If we're sharing that kind of technology (ie., the ability to hit a bullet with a bullet, no small feat), I'd say it's a given that we'll share the technology behind the F-22. Further, the Japanese are unlikely to share our technology with anyone else, unlike the Israelis or even the Europeans with the EU and their growing European Defense Force ideas (excepting the Brits).
TomKazansky
Golden Member
crazy japs with their f22, ew
dmcowen674
No Lifer
No it doesn't, of course they count the imported stuff as part of the Economy here, all part of the Republican way of doing math.
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
So quick with the exaggerations, DMC! We make LOTS of things, including cars, electronics of various sorts, furniture, LOTS of stuff! Where I work we (and by We I mean those guys out in the manufacturing area who have a clue about such things. I just run the network) make parts for aircraft of every flavor!
Jason
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
Would you? 🙂 I wouldn't, personally. However, I have no problems with selling these to Japan. In the 60 years since WWII they've evolved into a vary civilized nation of intelligent, reasonable people. A bit weird, to be sure, but then, I am sure they think we're pretty odd too 🙂
Jason
judasmachine
Diamond Member
Radar invisible Kamikazes w00t!
Seriously though, this country is practically run by the defense contractors. Eisenhower warned us did he not? Yeah we'll at least sell them dumbed down versions, if for nothing else than the sheer profit. And IIRC the ban on Japan building an offensive military expired in 2000.
Seriously though, this country is practically run by the defense contractors. Eisenhower warned us did he not? Yeah we'll at least sell them dumbed down versions, if for nothing else than the sheer profit. And IIRC the ban on Japan building an offensive military expired in 2000.
Why are they having problems with the F-2? It's not exactly a difficult concept. It's just a freakin' F-16. And if they thought THAT was complicated, wait till they try the F-22. But hey, if Japan would rather pay 8 billion dollars on top of the money they've already paid, let em.
Better make sure the Raptor works as good as it is supposed to before they buy them. Otherwise they might be better off buying up F-16/F-15 or even taking a look at Su-37's
Man, 80 raptors. That is a big order though... Japan learned a valuable lesson in WWII and has since show a great deal of responsbility. I think we should give them the Raptors or maybe suggest they get some other really nice fighter from us.
So can't they just wait for the JSF?
Someone made a good point though... F22 is more interceptor/air-to-air, so it would be really good for Japan since I doubt they plan any offensive manuevers
Man, 80 raptors. That is a big order though... Japan learned a valuable lesson in WWII and has since show a great deal of responsbility. I think we should give them the Raptors or maybe suggest they get some other really nice fighter from us.
So can't they just wait for the JSF?
Someone made a good point though... F22 is more interceptor/air-to-air, so it would be really good for Japan since I doubt they plan any offensive manuevers
Strk, maybe you can remind us who has Russia bombed into the stone age lately (or even not so lately)? In fact, this is our own policy: starting with Dresden, and going through Hiroshima, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Yugoslavia, and Iraq. In fact, we openly boasted that we "will bomb Yugoslavia into the stone age". If China wanted to get Taiwan, they could do it in less time than to say "ni hao". The truth is they don't want to, and are just biding their time.
Japan is a different matter, and having the lunatics in North Korea nearby must give them the shivers. The F-22 is exactly the plane they need, as the Russians don't have anything comparable to offer (and will not have in the next 5-10 years). They have some nice planes on the drawing board, but no money to develop them.
Japan is a different matter, and having the lunatics in North Korea nearby must give them the shivers. The F-22 is exactly the plane they need, as the Russians don't have anything comparable to offer (and will not have in the next 5-10 years). They have some nice planes on the drawing board, but no money to develop them.
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