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I've been traveling for over a month now... make it stop

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TridenT said:
Fuck. All my interviews from last week didn't go well. This whole car clusterfuck has really brought my A-game down a huge notch. 🙁
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Your "A-game" got you one job offer at a startup where you flamed out in spectacular fashion in a matter of weeks. You're going to have to up that game significantly but more importantly, you need a huge attitude adjustment.
 
This thread still exists? Holy crap. Where's tridong living now? I haven't cared enough to keep up with this cluster fvck.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
Well, if you were quality talent, you wouldn't have been fired. You're effectively a noob college graduate with no experience under your belt. When you have years of experience and documented achievements then yes, you can all an interview process like that BS. But that process sounds great to filter out incompetent new grads.

I've scoffed at interview processes with less effort involved than that but again, I have the resume to back me up and feel stuff like that is a complete waste of my time. You, on the other hand, don't.
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i'm not looking for a new job really, but my wife and i have really been contemplating moving out to san diego so i've recently interviewed with a company that has a project here (MD) and also out in CA.

first, the interview was informal. i told them i could come around lunch time from my current job and i would be wearing polo shirt and jeans, and they were fine with that.

in the interview, i literally LOL'ed at the first technical question, but in a joking manner. the question was "can you tell me the difference between an abstract class and an interface". i just LOL'ed and said "wow i haven't had these kinds of questions in a long time, this is college test material right here!" then i answered the question with flying colors. the interviewer actually laughed about it as well just stating "well you know we have to ask these questions..."

the technical question was cake too, and i kind of did the same thing. it was how to sort an array. the same kind of response came from myself and the lady interviewing me.

come 2 weeks later i hadn't heard anything back so i emailed them asking them what's up. they responded telling me it's been vacation time over there and everyone involved was on vacation but had returned. they told me the interviewer had absolutely nothing but good things to say about me and would hire me in a heartbeat for the position in MD (exact words too), and to reply back with my salary expectations and a realistic time that i would move out west so they can see if they can get me an offer.

in my initial contact with them i kind of reached for the stars salary wise ($40k more than i make now) and they said that was on the higher end but they could maybe swing it. now i'm going to ask for $20k more as well because my first salary was before i knew their benefits, and their benefits, while not bad, are nothing close to what i get now, so that will be my justification.

if they do meet me at that salary, i'm REALLY going to have some thinking to do about heading out west. if they don't ... oh well i'm plenty happy at my current gig! nothing to lose basically!

my point of this long post - if you know your shit, you can pick and choose and LOL at interviews. if you don't (as trident doesn't) you can't do that stuff.
 
2,000+ posts! We made it guys!

TridenT said:
Had a "technical" interview today. Mostly just spoke with an engineer for over an hour at a company.

He then tells me that the next step in the process is to do an 8-12 hour long coding assignment. (What in the actual fuck?) After that, there's a 45-min long phone interview about that project. And then maybe another phone interview (at this point, I kind of just ignored everything he said)... and then finally the onsite (4-6 interviews over 4-6 hours).

You'll never hire quality talent with that kind of interview process! Quality talent will NOT go through that. They will take the offer from another startup that is willing to interview them faster and with less bullshit.

EDIT: Also, I met a girl. But, that's another story. :awe: (And it has already made life complicated but it'll figure itself out soon enough)
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Lulz. It is spectacular how clueless you are. The better the company the more work they'll do to ensure that you're a good fit in methodology, quality, and pace (among other things) before making an offer. Anyone who *thinks* they're above a little bit of testing is missing the whole point.
 
JCH13 said:
2,000+ posts! We made it guys!



Lulz. It is spectacular how clueless you are. The better the company the more work they'll do to ensure that you're a good fit in methodology, quality, and pace (among other things) before making an offer. Anyone who *thinks* they're above a little bit of testing is missing the whole point.
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Not really true. Good companies fire quickly rather than putting candidates through 15+ hours of testing.
 
TridenT said:
Not really true. Good companies fire quickly rather than putting candidates through 15+ hours of testing.
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No they don't. It takes a lot more resources and time to hire someone and train them than it does to simply weed them out in interview(s).

It really is funny how clueless you are. Straight out of college and you act like you know what you're talking about. LOL.
 
clamum said:
No they don't. It takes a lot more resources and time to hire someone and train them than it does to simply weed them out in interview(s).

It really is funny how clueless you are. Straight out of college and you act like you know what you're talking about. LOL.
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seriously... and it would take a real asshole company to get someone to quit their job after a brief interview, with the expectation that you're going to hire anyone and then fire the 99% who don't work out because it's somehow easier than a lengthy interview.
 
I am appalled at OP's persistent lack of self awareness.

I mean, if I had a thread like this, at some point, I would legitimately look at myself and at least wonder if a change from within is needed at the slightest.
 
Zeze said:
I am appalled at OP's persistent lack of self awareness.

I mean, if I had a thread like this, at some point, I would legitimately look at myself and at least wonder if a change from within is needed at the slightest.
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He needs to transform more than Bruce Jenner, and I don't mean into a woman either.
 
TridenT said:
Not really true. Good companies fire quickly rather than putting candidates through 15+ hours of testing.
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Like you know what a good company is 🙄

I'll give you an example. I lost my job about 4 months ago. It happens when work runs thin at an 8-person (now 7-person) company. Fortunately, people like me, so I had a great rec from my former company and a lot of people pushing my resume at a lot of companies. One of these companies was Edare, sister company of Creare, both arguably great companies. They have built hardware for the Hubble telescope and Mars rover(s), arresting cable terminations for aircraft carries, invented RBNB networking software, FLUENT CFD software, and so on. My screening interview was 6 hours long and included both verbal quizzes and a written test. That particular job didn't work out due to a mismatch of target start dates and salary.

The company where I wound up taking a job had a screening interview that wound up being 5.5 hours long including an oral quiz (giggity) and a CAD software proficiency exam. They skipped the second interview and sent me a job offer the next day. They are commonly regarded as one of the best employers in my area and are comfortably world leaders in their industry.

Two companies, considered the best at what they do, use very long interview processes including tests. It's very common with companies that consider employees investments. Going into these interviews I had the recommendations of multiple (usually senior) people at each company and I still was put through my paces.

Get your head screwed on right.
 
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