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I've been noticing that waiters round up my written tips. Check your statement?

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Ashenor

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Where did you get the idea that waiters and bartenders only work for tips here?
They are required to be paid minimum wage here. Tips are part of that calculation, but they are always paid at least minimum wage.

Not in the US. I make $2.62 a hour and have worked at the same club over 10 years.'

Luckily i avg around $45 a hour cash though.
 

rudeguy

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Where did you get the idea that waiters and bartenders only work for tips here?
They are required to be paid minimum wage here. Tips are part of that calculation, but they are always paid at least minimum wage.

you are full of ignorance

Thanks for letting the world know!
 

slag

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When the tip is expected or applied FOR me is when I don't tip AT ALL.

Mind you I usually tip 20-30%

Evolved into a tipping thread....

You are part of the problem. Tips are 15%. You are already starting out 5% higher and sometimes double the norm. Stop screwing up standard tipping for everyone else.
 

slag

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Not in the US. I make $2.62 a hour and have worked at the same club over 10 years.'

Luckily i avg around $45 a hour cash though.

Well then, you aren't making $2.62 an hour. Your wages are $2.62 an hour, but you are making $45.00 an hour.

A wage is remuneration paid by an employer to an employee.
 

waggy

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Not in the US. I make $2.62 a hour and have worked at the same club over 10 years.'

Luckily i avg around $45 a hour cash though.

derp.

you avarage around $45 an hour. great pay. but if you made $5 an hour they are by law required to bump you up to min wage.

i know its complicated..if you are a idiot.
 

Pray To Jesus

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yea i would dispute those charges and call the manager. thats bullshit and borderline fraud.

It's not borderline fraud. To say it's borderline means that it could/could not be fraud.

Not the case here. This is clearly fraud.

It is fraud but on tiny scale. Still fraud.

Fraudulent reporting of credit card receipts.
Stealing money from the customer.

So fraud and theft.
 
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Pray To Jesus

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Theft. I would call the restaurant and tell the manager they need to fire that waiter for theft. And I would call the credit card company and have them charge back the entire tip.

Or if you strongly feel that what they did amounts to theft and that they stole from you, call the police.
 

preslove

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Sep 10, 2003
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derp.

you avarage around $45 an hour. great pay. but if you made $5 an hour they are by law required to bump you up to min wage.

i know its complicated..if you are a idiot.

But, he is not paid minimum wage by his employer. In Canada, and the rest of the world, he would be paid minimum wage (or higher, probably) by his employer and not depend on tips.

i know its complicated..if you are a idiot.
 

diesbudt

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Evolved into a tipping thread....

You are part of the problem. Tips are 15%. You are already starting out 5% higher and sometimes double the norm. Stop screwing up standard tipping for everyone else.
Standard tipping?

I can tip what I want, and what I feel like my waiter/waitress deserves.

Don't say everyone has to do "15%", it is personal choice.
 

Ashenor

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derp.

you avarage around $45 an hour. great pay. but if you made $5 an hour they are by law required to bump you up to min wage.

i know its complicated..if you are a idiot.

Learn2read, i was replying to his comment that employers don't pay under min wage. I know what i make, i am not complaining. Just stating the fact that i do not get min wage, my checks are zero, and i pay in around $800-$1000 at least each tax season.
 

BergeLSU

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What I don't understand is how management didn't catch it.

Every restaurant I ever worked at, the closing manager would input every credit card receipt into Excel, or manually calculate it.

They would add up every bill total, tip total, and combined total written on each receipt. If they didn't add up to what was input into the computer by the server, then they would have to manually find the receipt. Tedious, yeah, but it prevented stuff like this.

Most of the time they would just find out that half of their customers can't add correctly.
 

LTC8K6

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Mar 10, 2004
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you are full of ignorance

Thanks for letting the world know!

Well, it would be ignorant to work for $3 an hour under the US federal minimum wage law...

If you are that ignorant as to accept $3 an hour instead of the required wage, then you are probably beyond help...

:p
 

Ashenor

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What I don't understand is how management didn't catch it.

Every restaurant I ever worked at, the closing manager would input every credit card receipt into Excel, or manually calculate it.

They would add up every bill total, tip total, and combined total written on each receipt. If they didn't add up to what was input into the computer by the server, then they would have to manually find the receipt. Tedious, yeah, but it prevented stuff like this.

Most of the time they would just find out that half of their customers can't add correctly.

Most places the employees enter the tips, the manager just runs a report for totals at the end of shift and never looks at anything more then that.
 

Puppies04

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derp.

you avarage around $45 an hour. great pay. but if you made $5 an hour they are by law required to bump you up to min wage.

i know its complicated..if you are a idiot.

HEH! I'm an idiot and I find that offensive. I don't know what Ashenors problem is though... :p
 

torpid

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People who tout the "law" about an employer paying minimum wage probably haven't ever actually worked in the restaurant business. While it is technically required, it is extremely extremely rare for an employer to actually do this. And many or most wait staff are not even aware that this is the law. I would be surprised if it happened with any regularity in a vast majority of restaurants.
 

thecrecarc

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People who tout the "law" about an employer paying minimum wage probably haven't ever actually worked in the restaurant business. While it is technically required, it is extremely extremely rare for an employer to actually do this. And many or most wait staff are not even aware that this is the law. I would be surprised if it happened with any regularity in a vast majority of restaurants.

Restaurants I've been in, all waiters/tip employees knew the law. Furthermore, its required they post a minimum wage poster explaining the law, the fact employees dont read it is their own issue.
 

JoeyP

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I pay cash whenever possible to avoid, among other things, situations like this.
 

BUTCH1

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I'm glad I don't live in the states I'd have a hard time with this tipping entitlement thing happening down there. Honestly, I didn't believe at first that your food servers and bartenders etc just work for tips.

In Canada they get paid at least minimum wage, tips are just a bonus. I would have gave $2 on a $35 meal.

Who give a flying fuck about what you do in Can-u-da?
 

shortylickens

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Jumpem

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I noticed that recently as well. I always round my total to an even dollar amount. The waitress rounded her tip to a whole dollar amount, because the charge was twenty cents too high.