Party ideology changes as time goes on. The OLD Democratic party (which mostly controlled the South) was conservative. The OLD Republican party (which was dominant in the North) was liberal. So comparing the old and new are like comparing apples and oranges.
Gore's own father, Senator Albert Gore, Sr., voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Yep, and the kicker here is that Gore called him a "champion of civil rights".
People never really stop to look at the big picture, do they?
Yep, and the kicker here is that Gore called him a "champion of civil rights".
People never really stop to look at the big picture, do they?
XMan
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<< all he does is take constant advices from his helpers. >>
Perish the thought! Rather than filling his cabinet with those who are owed political favors, George W. Bush surrounds himself with competent people who are qualified in areas in which he is not.
A President should not try to be all things to all people . . . the Commander in Chief is only as good as his Cabinet.
MereMortal
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Why do I have a lack of decency because I dislike a party (group of people) who has done nothing but try to tear down minorities? What I got to like them because you do? I have to be happy about Bush winning the presidency, despite the awful incident which happened in his state and this a$$hole didn't even have decency to offer condolences to the family. They want guns and minorities in check, that is the way it is. I know about Wallace Daemon, but that still doesn't change what Republicans are, what they have done, and what they will do. And Black Secretary of State? I won't say what I think Of Colin Powell. He is a good man. But has not taken a stand in any way to help the fight of rights for minorities. And Secretary of State is great and all. But that gives him no voice into the issues minorities face in this country. He will deal with foreign policy. And last time I checked Gore had chosen a Jew to be his running mate, to stand side by side with him. Daemon you love the republicans because they support everything in your life. Guns and god knows what else. But guess what they I don't have the same feeling.
<< This thread title is perfect. For both sides >>
Yeah, if you say it enough times it might finally come true for you....
Classy, I don't remember anything in the Contract with America about
"we must tear down all awesome people".
By your hateful rhetoric about republicans, you must've added that in to feel better about your support of sons of racist democrats.
but I do remember alot of democrats pushing to keep affirmative action, a system which perpetuates racism in America and works against any hope of having a colorblind society.
"we must tear down all awesome people".
By your hateful rhetoric about republicans, you must've added that in to feel better about your support of sons of racist democrats.
but I do remember alot of democrats pushing to keep affirmative action, a system which perpetuates racism in America and works against any hope of having a colorblind society.
Two more
J. C. Watts
Alan Keyes
Great black republicans.
Two black Republicans that don't represent 90% of all blacks. JC Watts was a fast-track experiment for the GOP. Everytime they needed someone to comment on race issues, they use Watts. IMO, that's pretty pathetic. It doesn't take a genius to see that the "outreach to minorities" theme of the GOP convention was just a show.
but I do remember alot of democrats pushing to keep affirmative action, a system which perpetuates racism in America and works against any hope of having a colorblind society.
It was never a "fair" system. I do not agree with AA in principle. But I strongly support it in practicallity. It would do more harm if we abolish it. We are still far from a color-blind society. Cold hard statistics supports that fact.
J. C. Watts
Alan Keyes
Great black republicans.
Two black Republicans that don't represent 90% of all blacks. JC Watts was a fast-track experiment for the GOP. Everytime they needed someone to comment on race issues, they use Watts. IMO, that's pretty pathetic. It doesn't take a genius to see that the "outreach to minorities" theme of the GOP convention was just a show.
but I do remember alot of democrats pushing to keep affirmative action, a system which perpetuates racism in America and works against any hope of having a colorblind society.
It was never a "fair" system. I do not agree with AA in principle. But I strongly support it in practicallity. It would do more harm if we abolish it. We are still far from a color-blind society. Cold hard statistics supports that fact.
XMan
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<< Why do I have a lack of decency because I dislike a party (group of people) who has done nothing but try to tear down minorities? >>
Examples being . . . ? I really would like to hear how the Republican "man" has been keeping minorities down.
<< What I got to like them because you do? I have to be happy about Bush winning the presidency, despite the awful incident which happened in his state and this a$$hole didn't even have decency to offer condolences to the family. >>
Perhaps Bush did offer condolences to the Byrd family, but chose not to make a political spectacle out of it? Even so, what good would his condolence do? Did Bush know him or any members of his family? If he didn't, any condolence could be seen as a political move. I know I wouldn't appreciate the death of a loved one being used as a politlcal spin - and it was the Gore campaign that released that horrid commercial, in case you've forgotten.
<< They want guns and minorities in check, that is the way it is. >>
Wait a minute . . . you can't have it both ways. You say Dameon supports the Republican party because they allow "Guns and god knows what else." Support for gun control is definitely a liberal thing - most Republicans will acknoweledge that the laws to effect control are in place, it's enforcement that is lacking.
<< I know about Wallace Daemon, but that still doesn't change what Republicans are, what they have done, and what they will do. >>
Again, you can't have it both ways. You want to forget Wallace and Gore Srs. racism, but you want to paint the Republican party with a charge of racism for things they've done in the past . . . ?
<< And Black Secretary of State? I won't say what I think Of Colin Powell. He is a good man. But has not taken a stand in any way to help the fight of rights for minorities. >>
"Rights of minorities" . . . interesting concept.
We hold these truths to be self evident - that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.
The actual phrase "right of minority" is a dangerous one. Because it implies that a person of differing creed, color, and race should have additional rights than persons of the national majority. Restricting anything (or treating them differently in any way) from a person because of the color of their skin, religion, or national origin is illegal under the Constitution. Why do we need additional laws to effect the same? Yes, Colin Powell is a good man. And he has chosen to serve his country in a manner that he felt would be beneficial. Indicting him as a bad person simply because he chose not to follow the path set forth by Jesse Jackson and Lewis Farrakhan is sad. I would venture that Colin Powell is actually a better role model than Jackson or Farrakhan.
<< And last time I checked Gore had chosen a Jew to be his running mate, to stand side by side with him. >>
So? Lieberman is a highly qualified individual, but what does his creed really have to do with anything? Does it show that Al Gore is more sensitive than Bush? Not really - let's be honest, all a VP is for is to break Senatorial ties and safeguard against the death of the President. Condaleeza Rice is one of the top directors of Bush's campaign, but you don't hear much said about her, do you?
On Colin Powell again . . .
<< But that gives him no voice into the issues minorities face in this country. He will deal with foreign policy. >>
Again, so what? Are you saying that foreign policy isn't important? Perhaps we should become isolationist and let the rest of the world attend to itself. Oh, that's right, the last time we did that we got involved in a little shindig called World War I. Should be interesting in '04 or '08 when Powell runs for President. I look forward to casting my vote for the man. It should also be interesting to watch the Democrats try to discredit him without alienating black voters.
<< But guess what they I don't have the same feeling. >>
Congratulations. The Constitution of the United States grants you that power, as well as the right to discuss what we're talking about. Last time I checked, it was the Democrats who were trying to shred the Constitution in favor of "feel-good" politics rather than the Republicans.
Colin Powell is a Democrat at heart. He disagrees with the GOP party platform in many issues. THat's one of the reasons that he won't be Dubya's running mate. W begged him til the very last minute
"Again, you can't have it both ways. You want to forget Wallace and Gore Srs. racism, but you want to paint the Republican party with a charge of racism for things they've done in the past . . ."
History has shown that it goes both ways. Like I said, the DEMs 50 years ago is very different from the DEMS today. The same is true for the GOP. If I was alive 100 years ago, I would've been a Republican. However, the demography of liberals and conservatives have not changed. Only the name has changed.
History has shown that it goes both ways. Like I said, the DEMs 50 years ago is very different from the DEMS today. The same is true for the GOP. If I was alive 100 years ago, I would've been a Republican. However, the demography of liberals and conservatives have not changed. Only the name has changed.
Classy,
I'd like to know exactly what rights minorities in this country don't share with the rest of the population. Name one.
I'd like to know exactly what rights minorities in this country don't share with the rest of the population. Name one.
Funny, Classy, since Maryland has voted DEMOCRAT for as long as I can remember...and phooie on anyone who thinks Maryland isn't part of the South...;-)
Maybe the right not to be treat like 2nd-class citizens? As an Asian American, I wouldn't want to be a scientist at a National Lab, or a big donor to the Democratic party.
Maybe the right not to be treat like 2nd-class citizens?
Then why vote for the Democrats who treat them as such?
Then why vote for the Democrats who treat them as such?
No the reason why Powell did not want to be VP, is there is a chance of him becoming president. He has said he has no motive to be President or Vice President. For he fears he would be killed. Hes not a democrat, hes a moderate republican, or an independent, hes not a lefty.
Asian Americans? They get treated like second class citizens? Haha thats extremely funny. China has stole secerts from the US, they went after someone directly involved is come instances, in stealing those secerts. The Asian Americans that donated money to Al Gore weren't americans, they were people in China.
Asian Americans get treated just as well as white people. Heck if you're Asian you have a better chance to get into top colleges.
Let me guess you like the race baiter Jesse Jackson? Jesse Jackson is a racist.
Asian Americans get treated just as well as white people. Heck if you're Asian you have a better chance to get into top colleges.
Let me guess you like the race baiter Jesse Jackson? Jesse Jackson is a racist.
<< It's over, President-Elect Bush has won. >>
Yep, now the adults will move in and begin to rebuild the enterprise. We will put back the inheritance squandered by the foolish, who had temporary control of the government of, The United States of America.
SJ
<< The Asian Americans that donated money to Al Gore weren't americans, they were people in China. >>
That is so racist. Are you saying that all Asian Americans who donated money to Gore were doing it on behalf of China? Cus that's what it sounds like. I am not Asian, and I am an atheist, but I do notice that the conservatives like to bring up Buddhist temples when talking about Al Gore, as if it's wrong for a presidential candidate to associate with Buddhists. The Republicans also bashed Hillary Clinton for talking to Moslem leaders, as if just by talking to them she is supporting terrorism. They think that by doing that they are going to get Jewish votes. Dream on. As a person of Jewish descent, it insults my intelligence. If that isn't masked racism, I don't know what is.
<< As an Asian American, I wouldn't want to be a scientist at a National Lab >>
After the whole Wen Ho Lee fiasco, I think the government will have a much harder time recruiting qualified scientists for the labs. Who wants to be underpaid, underappreciated, treated as a suspect, subjected to lie detector tests, and held in jail for months without hearing on a mere suspicion? Where do I sign up for this dream job? When National labs come to recruit here on campus, I just laugh at them. Lots of luck. It sure is less glamorous to work with nukes now that the cold war is over. Besides qualified scientists and engineers stand to make 10s of thousands of dollars more by working for private company labs, without all the B.S.
<< The Asian Americans that donated money to Al Gore weren't americans, they were people in China. >>
That is so racist. Are you saying that all Asian Americans who donated money to Gore were doing it on behalf of China? Cus that's what it sounds like. I am not Asian, and I am an atheist, but I do notice that the conservatives like to bring up Buddhist temples when talking about Al Gore, as if it's wrong for a presidential candidate to associate with Buddhists. The Republicans also bashed Hillary Clinton for talking to Moslem leaders, as if just by talking to them she is supporting terrorism. They think that by doing that they are going to get Jewish votes. Dream on. As a person of Jewish descent, it insults my intelligence. If that isn't masked racism, I don't know what is.
<< As an Asian American, I wouldn't want to be a scientist at a National Lab >>
After the whole Wen Ho Lee fiasco, I think the government will have a much harder time recruiting qualified scientists for the labs. Who wants to be underpaid, underappreciated, treated as a suspect, subjected to lie detector tests, and held in jail for months without hearing on a mere suspicion? Where do I sign up for this dream job? When National labs come to recruit here on campus, I just laugh at them. Lots of luck. It sure is less glamorous to work with nukes now that the cold war is over. Besides qualified scientists and engineers stand to make 10s of thousands of dollars more by working for private company labs, without all the B.S.
Ummm no. Im saying the people that illegaly donated money to Gore in '92 and '96 were from China. Im not saying every asian that donated money to Gore was from China. Im saying the people that Gore illegaly accepted money from, though Janet Reno won't investigate further(we all know she should FBI and her advisors thinks so) were from China.
Basically what Im saying is the people that are/were being investigated by the US are not asian americans, they are people who live in China. Gore commited several felonies, Clintons lackey won't investigate further because not only would it make Gore look bad, but he would be facing several years in prison. They handled the National labs case wrong, but there are people there that have stolen secerts in the past, we all know that much to be true, they are just having a hard time pin pointing who it was.
Basically what Im saying is the people that are/were being investigated by the US are not asian americans, they are people who live in China. Gore commited several felonies, Clintons lackey won't investigate further because not only would it make Gore look bad, but he would be facing several years in prison. They handled the National labs case wrong, but there are people there that have stolen secerts in the past, we all know that much to be true, they are just having a hard time pin pointing who it was.
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Classy really showed his true colors in this thread. Anyone still believe that black persons can't be racist?
Classy, you are the black equivalent of a southern redneck, rebel flag flyin', mindless, KKK worshipping, good-ole-boy. I have NO tolerance for idiots like you no matter what color they may be nor which side of the political spectrum they may fall on. Your blaringly obvious fixation with hatred and lies will eventually consume you totally, and for that America will be a better place.
Classy, you are the black equivalent of a southern redneck, rebel flag flyin', mindless, KKK worshipping, good-ole-boy. I have NO tolerance for idiots like you no matter what color they may be nor which side of the political spectrum they may fall on. Your blaringly obvious fixation with hatred and lies will eventually consume you totally, and for that America will be a better place.
It is too bad that this place has language filters....
classy-
I can only assume that you gave yourself that name, because anyone who has spent 2 minutes with you would realize you have no class.
classy-
I can only assume that you gave yourself that name, because anyone who has spent 2 minutes with you would realize you have no class.
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