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Its 100% done, i just ordered my power supply (finally)

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It's close, made closer by the fact that you'll probably be happy with either. The Tagan is cheaper, the Seasonic is quieter and capable of delivering more power, both are capable of delivering more than enough power and running quiet enough to keep you happy.

Sometimes the least significant decisions are the hardest to make. Flip a coin? Oh, also:


ive read reviews on the seasonic, and im going to read reviews on the Powerstream, but none of them really test the amps long enough to justify their stability (come on, runing a computer thats Oc'ed on a full load for 1 minute isnt the same as running it for 24 hours...)
that, and so far all reviews say the same
"good PSU", that doesnt really help the decision either (there has to be faults in one and strengths in the other)
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This is completely correct. Most PSU reviews suck. If the PSU doesn't blow up in their face, and if the software utility they are using to inaccurately measure voltages doesn't show any huge problems for about five minutes of load, the site gives it a good review.


Edit:
why?
In every review ive read, the two PSU's im deciding on (Seasonic and Tagan) had more stability then the Modstream, plus more amps, plus i dont want modular, to week IMO (judging from all the reviews ive read)
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Shhhh. Usually if you ignore the crazy person they go away. At the very least, you don't have to spend time and effort actively responding to them.
 
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: John
Originally posted by: w00t
If you want the best PCP&C.
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That's so cliche.
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not my fault its a fact.

I would go modstream 450W, or NEOPOWER.
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how many times do I have to TELL YOU!
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why?
In every review ive read, the two PSU's im deciding on (Seasonic and Tagan) had more stability then the Modstream, plus more amps, plus i dont want modular, to week IMO (judging from all the reviews ive read)


the finalists still remain, the Seasonic or the Tagan
 
As I said before, Don't expect any Custormer service from Tagan. I don't know about Seasonic customer service.

I can perfectly say that my 6800GT and X2 4200+, both overclocked with my ram at 3.4 volts runs pretty smoothly with my tagan, and volts don't fluctuate much.. I checked with a multimeter because my mobo reported the 12 rail at 10.7 under full load. Under full load it was at 11.94.... Pretty good for a 480 watt power supply.
 
Originally posted by: Hacp
As I said before, Don't expect any Custormer service from Tagan. I don't know about Seasonic customer service.

I can perfectly say that my 6800GT and X2 4200+, both overclocked with my ram at 3.4 volts runs pretty smoothly with my tagan, and volts don't fluctuate much.. I checked with a multimeter because my mobo reported the 12 rail at 10.7 under full load. Under full load it was at 11.94.... Pretty good for a 480 watt power supply.
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when you run dual 12v rails, how much amps are on each rail?
 
I know you quoted him, but I'm going to respond to you, because honestly I have nothing better to do. AFAIK:

The ratings in (relatively) big lettering on the label are not necessarily the ones you should be looking at there, even assuming that they are not overblown. Each rail can take up to a certain (usually round, because components' current limits go by round numbers) amount of load, and both rails combined can take up to a certain amount of load. The maximum load for an individual rail is generally the rating given rounded up to the nearest roundish number, the maximum load for both rails combined is usually the sum of the semi-arbitrary ratings on the rails provided.

Example: a dual-rail PSU has +12V1 rated at 17A and +12V2 rated at 18A. In reality, IF the ratings are accurate, and unless stated otherwise, each rail can probably take up to 20A of load, and the PSU is rated for no more than 35A from both rails

I wouldn't worry too much about it, myself, as either of these PSUs is capable of supporting a top-end system. You asked, though, so I answered.
 
Originally posted by: svi
I know you quoted him, but I'm going to respond to you, because honestly I have nothing better to do. AFAIK:

The ratings in (relatively) big lettering on the label are not necessarily the ones you should be looking at there, even assuming that they are not overblown. Each rail can take up to a certain (usually round, because components' current limits go by round numbers) amount of load, and both rails combined can take up to a certain amount of load. The maximum load for an individual rail is generally the rating given rounded up to the nearest roundish number, the maximum load for both rails combined is usually the sum of the semi-arbitrary ratings on the rails provided.

Example: a dual-rail PSU has +12V1 rated at 17A and +12V2 rated at 18A. In reality, IF the ratings are accurate, and unless stated otherwise, each rail can probably take up to 20A of load, and the PSU is rated for no more than 35A from both rails

I wouldn't worry too much about it, myself, as either of these PSUs is capable of supporting a top-end system. You asked, though, so I answered.
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So each rail can take up to 20A on the Tagan then (since the 12V1 and 12V2 is each listed as 20A)

i was just wondering because someone in another fourm when i was reviewing it said it could only handle 30A on split mode (ie, running dual rails), so i was making sure he was totally wrong
 
Hmmm.. he's right, actually. Take a look at the label.

Label!

That "30A" under both columns basically means that maximum load from both rails combined can not exceed 30A, but that each rail could take up to 20A by itself alone. In other words, either rail can have 20A draw, but the combined draw from both rails can not exceed 30A.

Interesting, that. I suppose they want to make extra sure that no one accidentally overloads either rail. That's the nice possibility, anyway.
 
hmm, so even though each rail can handle 20A, the total amount that can be used with both rails is 30A (ie, one rail can use the whole 20A, but the other would then only be able to use 10A)


hmm, this adds a little twist
 
The OCZ Powerstream 520w you had originally picked out is a much better choice then the Tagan. I would also take a Fortron AX500-A over the Tagan.
 
Originally posted by: Bulldog101598
Originally posted by: KoolDrew
The OCZ Powerstream 520w you had originally picked out is a much better choice then the Tagan. I would also take a Fortron AX500-A over the Tagan.
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And, yet, here is a power supply that tested better than the OCZ: http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/cases/other/psu/acoolt550/p2.shtml

Have you considered it ?
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you just had to bring the AeroCool back......meatball will tell me how his does, then i might consider it, but for now the Tagan is the choice

and for my case, im still trying to decide, but im 90% sure im getting a Thermaltake Tsunami (but i might look into a windowed P180)

 
Hey, im just trying to get the best for my rig 😀

I wont be ordering until wensday night/ thursday morning, so its not 100% official so if people have any comments or gripes about my selection, feel free to share them
 
Originally posted by: vailr
Look on froogle.com for lower prices than Newegg.
This Seasonic PSU has PFC, and a quiet 120 mm. fan, for $105.14 + shipping:
Seasonic S12-500 500W Power Supplies For P4/XEON
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see, i might go shopping around, but i dont want to order from to many different places.
But whyd you have to say something, i finally made a decision and then whammy, you post that.

o well, for the sake of this thread, ive decided (i think)

and for anyone interested, the original question was what Power Supply should i get
 
Originally posted by: Bulldog101598
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
and for my case, im still trying to decide, but im 90% sure im getting a Thermaltake Tsunami (but i might look into a windowed P180)
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How about a windowed Lian Li PC-60B Plus.
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Windows P180's dont exist 🙁 (or do they?). I really wish they did....unless you want to make the mod yourself. Just keep in mind that this thing is covered in some foam/3layered metal to prevent sound from escaping, so basically by adding a window you're giving your case a place to let sound escape, and vibrate.

Then again you were looking at the Tsunami so I don't think you care about sound as you'll be deaf after 3 months 😉.

If you like the Tsunami looks, just take a look at the TT Soprano. Much quieter, but it's got 2 120mm fans instead of 3 like the tsunami.

Then again, take a look at the "New" Wavemaster or the "Old" Wavemaster (which I like better). With the exception of the 80mm fans it's a cool case, and LOOKS awesome in Silver. Even the door is all aluminum.
 
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Originally posted by: Bulldog101598
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
and for my case, im still trying to decide, but im 90% sure im getting a Thermaltake Tsunami (but i might look into a windowed P180)
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How about a windowed Lian Li PC-60B Plus.
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Windows P180's dont exist 🙁 (or do they?). I really wish they did....unless you want to make the mod yourself. Just keep in mind that this thing is covered in some foam/3layered metal to prevent sound from escaping, so basically by adding a window you're giving your case a place to let sound escape, and vibrate.

Then again you were looking at the Tsunami so I don't think you care about sound as you'll be deaf after 3 months 😉.

If you like the Tsunami looks, just take a look at the TT Soprano. Much quieter, but it's got 2 120mm fans instead of 3 like the tsunami.

Then again, take a look at the "New" Wavemaster or the "Old" Wavemaster (which I like better). With the exception of the 80mm fans it's a cool case, and LOOKS awesome in Silver. Even the door is all aluminum.
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first, yes they do make windowed P180's, but they cost $220
second, the Tsunami only has 2 120mm fans, and a 92mm fan, and there all fairly quiet (plus i have enough fan controllers ill make em quiet if i have to)

third, still looking at cases, but my absolute case and power supply decision will be made tonight, as im placing my first of two orders tonight (my total build cost is $1600, i only have $1000, so im ordering most everything tonight, and ill order the rest when i get paid the $600, and by then the amd's will be down in price, and so will the 6800gt's (a little more i hope))
 
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