It should be legal to shoot-to-kill for property theft

[shuan24]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: shuan24
i know for sure in texas you have the right no doubt to shoot someone if they break into your house.

I know this, but I am talking about property outside my house. If I look outside my window and see an arm go through my car, I should be able to use force - even though my house is completely overlooked and nobody related to me is in harm's way.

i know i completely agree with you. I was replying hondas2ooo170.

My car got broken into a couple months ago and I too am ignorant about the gun laws regarding car burglaries.

 

[n666]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Um... it is legal for you to use deadly force to protect your property in Texas.

And it really shouldn't be; there's too much potential for vigilante action, lying, and assorted other situations that end up with one person dead, and only the person who killed them telling their version of what happened.

Really? I'm not sure if you watch the news or anything, but this isn't a problem in Texas...

it's not a problem because if you talk about it you get shot 😛

 

[shuan24]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

lol thats probably because *gasp* it costs 10K less to live in texas!

 

[Mo0o]

What if someone is taking your bicycle.
Or if they're picking up your wallet off the ground.

Are you allowed to blow them away as well?

 

[illustri]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Maybe I should be able to shoot jay-walkers? I mean they really piss me off, and sometimes I have to slow down my car while they cross in the middle of the block.

In fact, we should all just be able to shoot everyone, that'd be good...

If you can't differentiate between jaywalking and stealing a person's property as it pertains to this topic, you probably shouldn't be participating in this thread.

so wheres your cutoff for the use of deadly force, above what misdemeanor can you gun someone down?

what about knifing? can I sneak up on someone slim jim'n to my car and slit their throat a la splinter cell?

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

Our school is a Top 10 engineering school. I'd pin the pay gap, if it is true, on cost-of-living rather than inherent ability.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

Texas EE's are more likely to keep their job than California EE's too.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: ragazzo
It's your car and your car is insured. Not worth taking a life for that...even if you have $1000 deductible. However, if the thief was going at you with a knife, then by all means protect yourself.

How do you know that he has full coverage?

The thief may end up costing the person $20,000. Are you saying that we shouldn't be able to stop a crime just because some liberals put a high value on the life of people who make a living stealing?

Even if my deductible was $500, I'd still drop him. Thieves have a negative value in society. Not only do they not carry their own weight, they detract from the work of honest people. I'd kill him.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

Our school is a Top 10 engineering school. I'd pin the pay gap, if it is true, on cost-of-living rather than inherent ability.

Hey isn't Caltech a realy good engineering school?

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: shuan24

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

lol thats probably because *gasp* it costs 10K less to live in texas!

Maybe if you buy a house. I rent, and unless 1 br apartments with garage are free in Texas, it's not going to cost $10K less for me to live there.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: ragazzo
It's your car and your car is insured. Not worth taking a life for that...even if you have $1000 deductible. However, if the thief was going at you with a knife, then by all means protect yourself.

How do you know that he has full coverage?

The thief may end up costing the person $20,000. Are you saying that we shouldn't be able to stop a crime just because some liberals put a high value on the life of people who make a living stealing?

Even if my deductible was $500, I'd still drop him. Thieves have a negative value in society. Not only do they not carry their own weight, they detract from the work of honest people. I'd kill him.

So can i assume you've never downloaded an illegal mp3 or movie? Have you ever sampled a grape at the grocery store?

 

[OverVolt]

Originally posted by: chowmein
theres so much constitutional bs when it comes to a subject like that.

Yea seriously who needs those pesky rights and stuff or something.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: shuan24

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

lol thats probably because *gasp* it costs 10K less to live in texas!

Maybe if you buy a house. I rent, and unless 1 br apartments with garage are free in Texas, it's not going to cost $10K less for me to live there.

we don't pay state income tax here genius. or $3.50 for gas.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: shuan24

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

lol thats probably because *gasp* it costs 10K less to live in texas!

It's a LOT less in housing alone. Texas >>> Cali for cost of living.

Oh and Texas EEs are still employed... Silicon what? 😉

 

[shuan24]

you tool, its not just the house. cost of living includes gas, food, tomatoes, beer, and what nots. On average everything is higher in california. And yes, it could easily be $10K higher, depending on your standard of living.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: illustri

so wheres your cutoff for the use of deadly force, above what misdemeanor can you gun someone down?

what about knifing? can I sneak up on someone slim jim'n to my car and slit their throat a la splinter cell?

As soon as someone knowingly attempts to take my property, I will defend it. I'm not going to sneak up on someone to try to kill them, I'd let them know that they're caught. If they stop right there, the police will handle it. If they try to take off, they're done.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

Texas EE's are more likely to keep their job than California EE's too.

You are basing that on numbers you pull out of where?
California EE's are more likely to find a job than Texas EE's.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: shuan24

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

lol thats probably because *gasp* it costs 10K less to live in texas!

It's a LOT less in housing alone. Texas >>> Cali for cost of living.

Oh and Texas EEs are still employed... Silicon what? 😉

Silicon "Not only employed, but got a $20K in raises and a free Stanford Masters since coming out of school 4 years ago" Valley. 😀

 

[shuan24]

hammer or pliablemoose:

I thought texas also had the law where you couldn't shoot someone in the back? because wouldn't that imply that they were no longer of danger to you?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: beer
If I see someone breaking into my car, it should be legal for me to shoot them. It should make no difference whether I am in imminent bodily threat, pieces of sh!t deserve to be removed from the gene pull and handgun rounds should be doing the trick.

Move to Texas. You can shoot-to-kill if you have an unwelcomed guest on your property. Not even in your house, they can simply be on your property. 😀

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Everything is dumber in Texas. Do their shooters get away by claiming self defense?

Yes, we're dumber in Texas alright. My EE degree isn't worth anything compared to yours, because mine is from Texas, right?

Yes, that is true. Texas EE's get paid about 10K less out of college compared to Silicon Valley EE's 😀

Texas EE's are more likely to keep their job than California EE's too.

You are basing that on numbers you pull out of where?
California EE's are more likely to find a job than Texas EE's.

more likely to find a job where? at McDonald's? in Bangalore? :laugh:

I'm basing it on silicon valley being the #1 target for offshoring. worst in the nation.

http://www.forums.eetimes.com/jive3/thread.jspa?threadID=300044560&tstart=75

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
You are basing that on numbers you pull out of where?
California EE's are more likely to find a job than Texas EE's.

What the fscsk did this thread turn into? You think we have an inherent lack of skill, because we're from Texas. That's bullsh!t and you just talking crap out of your ass. Silicon Valley EEs may get paid more, but there is a higher cost of living, and I don't think finding employment is hard for ANYONE where I go to school with! This should not be a pissing contest and should focus on the topic at hand.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

So can i assume you've never downloaded an illegal mp3 or movie? Have you ever sampled a grape at the grocery store?

I've never stolen a grape, and the law does not allow deadly force to protect intangible property. In other words, you can shoot someone who tries to steal your car, VCR, TV, etc, but you can't shoot someone who is stealing your ideas, copyrights, data, etc.

 

[shuan24]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Mo0o

So can i assume you've never downloaded an illegal mp3 or movie? Have you ever sampled a grape at the grocery store?

I've never stolen a grape, and the law does not allow deadly force to protect intangible property. In other words, you can shoot someone who tries to steal your car, VCR, TV, etc, but you can't shoot someone who is stealing your ideas, copyrights, data, etc.

pwned! :beer:

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: shuan24
hammer or pliablemoose:

I thought texas also had the law where you couldn't shoot someone in the back? because wouldn't that imply that they were no longer of danger to you?

you saw the statute. that's the law on the books.