It must be PC to hate the US.

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Red Dawn

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<< On behalf of myself and my country of Canada, I would like to apologize for the rampant stupidity of this post by my fellow "countryman". >>

Glad to see ther is at least one Canadian that knows his place!!..heheh Just kidding Optimus:)
 

Lucky

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How did we get to be the most powerful, if we're the most ignorant???


By oppressing the rest of the world, of course.
 

OutHouse

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The only way that smaller countries can try to raise awareness to this problem is terrorism and your leader is trying to remove this ability from the world as well. As soon as terrorism is eradicated he will be able to move freely in his own blundering way, pushing us all towards the physical limits of the earth.:|[/

dumb ass, when has terrorism ever stopped the US from doing what we want to do.
 

busmaster11

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<< It must be PC to hate the US. >>

I wish people would stop making ignorant blanket comments like this. It's one thing to attempt to stir up patriotism but its quite another to use BS to do it.
Intelligent people will know that the US does more good than any other country. We keep everyone from going to war and taking over other countries, and we're basically the international police and we provide tons of aide to many different countries that need it.
But please, respect the fact that each country, including the US, just like each one of us, has our own selfish agendas. Our agenda is to do whats best for the US economically. Muslim countries, it seems, have number one on their agenda defending Islam... As we have seen in the last few months, that can kinda clash...

Now why do some of you have a problem understanding or respecting that?
 

agnitrate

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<< The only way that smaller countries can try to raise awareness to this problem is terrorism and your leader is trying to remove this ability from the world as well. >>



Terrorism isn't an 'ability'. It is a crime against humanity that should be dealt with immediately and through swift justice. You make me sick to think of this as an 'ability' of people to protest against a government.

silver
 

Hammer

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There's only one way to deal with terrorists - hunt them down and kill them.



<< Terrorism isn't an 'ability'. It is a crime against humanity that should be dealt with immediately and through swift justice. You make me sick to think of this as an 'ability' of people to protest against a government.

silver
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Red Dawn

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<< By oppressing the rest of the world, of course. >>

Well if you are going to be oppressed (and they would be) it's best to be oppressed by a benovelent Super Power than someone ruthless like the Germans, English, Iraqi's, Russians, ChiComs etc... We've seen them in action during the last century and a half and in comparison we are like Mother Terresa.
 

Jimbo

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The U.S. is frequently used as an institutional whipping boy by most governments the world over. It is similar to the Democrat tactic of ?Blame The Rich?. The world?s press usually cites the United States as the reason for any shortcomings that are happening in that particular country. Being that most of the media in the rest of the world is controlled by the government, it is easier to blame The U.S. than admit they can?t feed their people because they are too inept or corrupt.
I think this administration has it right. We do what we want, where we want, and to whom we want and the rest of the world be damned.
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Hrm... if our agenda in Kuwait was to preserve our flow of oil, then what was our agenda in the whole Kosovo thing? Did we ever get anything out of helping Kosovo? Seems like United States is good people to me.
 

Balthazar

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<< Why do we even bother helping people outside of the US. >>


Because they have something the US wants.
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Agreed, if they anna take that approach to things then screw em, give me my oil and waller away in whatever cess pool you call a country, I refuse to start feeling bad for some of these places when they act like that, yeah, protect my own interests and if they get something out of it to fine. However other conflicts we have been involved in haven't been so poorly responded to, and in certain cases we didn't even have much.anything to gain from it either so. Those people are cool, screw most of the middle east though. Half of them get pissed when you interfere the other half get pissed when you don't.

Not my damned homeland being shot to heck because somebodies parents never taught them to share.

$5 says most of those people recieved "Does not play well with others" notes on their report cards....
 

Texmaster

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<< The U.S. is frequently used as an institutional whipping boy by most governments the world over. It is similar to the Democrat tactic of ?Blame The Rich?. The world?s press usually cites the United States as the reason for any shortcomings that are happening in that particular country. Being that most of the media in the rest of the world is controlled by the government, it is easier to blame The U.S. than admit they can?t feed their people because they are too inept or corrupt.
I think this administration has it right. We do what we want, where we want, and to whom we want and the rest of the world be damned.
>>



Great Post Jimbo. GREAT Analogy about the Democratic tactic.
 

Balthazar

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<< Most people hate the US because they are:

a) the most powerful nation in the world
b) the most ignorant nation in the world

That is quite a horrible combination and I hope you agree. You guys don't give a damn about anything environmental and you WILL cause the extinction of the world. You act like you are the policemen of the world, though you only help out when it will give you a favourable economic situation afterwards. If it is simply to save some people you won't go in and help, but if you can save some people and be considered for oil trading, etc., you're all for it. The only way that smaller countries can try to raise awareness to this problem is terrorism and your leader is trying to remove this ability from the world as well. As soon as terrorism is eradicated he will be able to move freely in his own blundering way, pushing us all towards the physical limits of the earth.:|
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Oh were to begin.

How about this....
This "ignorant nation" is comprised of more ethnic groups than pretty much anywhere else on the planet, that means that you too can impact your bitter feelings upon our country if you choose.

And to think that you are suggesting that Terrorism is an acceptable way to make a point....ok, fine, how's about this point, you screw with us, your country will end up a big sheet of glass.

I swear people get more and more mature as time goes by "oh my my country sucks (WHICH IS NOT OUR FAULT) so we should kill a couple thousand innocent people."

Screw that.

We did NOT cause the violence in the middle east, yet we get hatefull responses when we do nothing, and more hatefull response when we DO something. So tell me, in your wisdom, how should that be handled? Damned if you do damned if you don't.

I'm sorry but you hold about 0 value in my eyes, I don't know where your from, what your religion, political beliefs, and I don't care, your valueless because you yourself do not value human life. And that is disgusting.

Ugh....not even worth my time....
 

UltraQuiet

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<< That is quite a horrible combination and I hope you agree. You guys don't give a damn about anything environmental and you WILL cause the extinction of the world. You act like you are the policemen of the world, though you only help out when it will give you a favourable economic situation afterwards. If it is simply to save some people you won't go in and help, but if you can save some people and be considered for oil trading, etc., you're all for it. The only way that smaller countries can try to raise awareness to this problem is terrorism and your leader is trying to remove this ability from the world as well. As soon as terrorism is eradicated he will be able to move freely in his own blundering way, pushing us all towards the physical limits of the earth >>


Go paddle your little boat. Leave the serious discussion to the adults.

I would like to make a general comment directed at the people who have some issue with the US ensuring it has a ready supply of oil. We do it because it is vital to our national/economic security. You people would really be whining if your gas was $2.50 a gallon. Get a clue.
 

Balthazar

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<< How did we get to be the most powerful, if we're the most ignorant???


By oppressing the rest of the world, of course.
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Oh my I think thats a funny one....
Take a quick course in American History pal, see where we started....opression my ass.
Unlike easily led people our countrymen stood up, fought back against their own government, when, WHEN, the heck have you seen that other than here? I bet it wasn't anywhere in the middle east was it.

Ugh, we have been around for a shorter period of time than most countries and we are more powerfull than all of them....US isn't perfect (not by a long shot) but our idea of government isn't "lets shoot the guy currently in command and take over because our citizens will lay down and eat it".

Ignorance abouds indeed....
 

bigdog1218

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<< GREAT Analogy about the Democratic tactic >>



great to see all you super "patriots" are still trying to divide the nation, you must really love the US
 

Hammer

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People think were the only ones who care so much about oil. News flash - all major industrial countries for the past century have recognized that oil is vital to national and economic security. You may remember a little thing called WW2. The Japanese did not attack America on a whim.



<< I would like to make a general comment directed at the people who have some issue with the US ensuring it has a ready supply of oil. We do it because it is vital to our national/economic security. You people would really be whining if your gas was $2.50 a gallon. Get a clue. >>

 

Double Trouble

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Ignoring the post from ariba for a second (that's off the topic of the thread), we all know that the US 'saved' Kuwait from the Iraqi's for one sole reason, oil. Does that mean the US did something wrong?? No, of course not, whatever the reason, we still helped them kick out the invaders from their land. The Kuwaitis should be (and probably are) greatful for that bailout, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking that they owe us some debt of gratitude forever for our great noble deed, and now have to support the US no matter what it does......
 

Jimbo

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<< GREAT Analogy about the Democratic tactic >>

<< great to see all you super "patriots" are still trying to divide the nation, you must really love the US >>


bigdog1218 I see your Marxist Studies professor let you out early today.
Do you do NOTHING but eat ten-strips of acid and post in this forum?
Please entertain us with more of your inaccurate perspective of history or has your remedial history class not gotten to the 20th century yet?

Howdy Tex! :)
 

Red Dawn

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<< The Kuwaitis should be (and probably are) greatful for that bailout, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking that they owe us some debt of gratitude forever for our great noble deed, and now have to support the US no matter what it does...... >>

It doesn't??? It was only ten years ago and if we didn't step in and stop Hussien many of those who don't feel they owe us any gratitude any more probably wouoldn't be alive. Frankly maybe it would have been best if we didn't save their lives as it's not worth being thankful for.

Man tagej, were do you come up with this BS?
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Bah let's just get it on.

America and her willing allies

vs

The middle east (minus Israel of course)

No mercy.
To the winner go the spoils.
 

glenn1

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<< <<How did we get to be the most powerful, if we're the most ignorant??? >>

By oppressing the rest of the world, of course.
>>



The rest of the world doesn't seem to be putting up too much of a fight. A united Europe, for example, has both the resources and (presumably) the moral standing to raise a military force which could be used to further the cause of a stable world and helping in humanitarian causes/crises (in military parlance, MOOTW, or Military Operations Other Than War) such as Kosovo and mine-clearing in places like Eritrea, yet choose not to. In fact, EU ministers seem violently opposed to even the idea.

Therefore, since no one else in the world seems willing or able to step up to the plate, and dedicate a significant amount of resources to ensuring a stable, peaceful world, stop yer' whining when you don't like how the U.S. is doing things when we're out taking care of business. For example, Europe would have let the Serbs massacre the Croats and stood idly by watching, saying "it's none of our business" until the U.S. stepped in. Are we perfect, and do we often undertake such things for reasons of our own self-interest? No and yes respectively. But as least the U.S. does SOMETHING.
 

GooberPHX420

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<< Most people hate the US because they are:

a) the most powerful nation in the world
b) the most ignorant nation in the world

That is quite a horrible combination and I hope you agree. You guys don't give a damn about anything environmental and you WILL cause the extinction of the world. You act like you are the policemen of the world, though you only help out when it will give you a favourable economic situation afterwards. If it is simply to save some people you won't go in and help, but if you can save some people and be considered for oil trading, etc., you're all for it. The only way that smaller countries can try to raise awareness to this problem is terrorism and your leader is trying to remove this ability from the world as well. As soon as terrorism is eradicated he will be able to move freely in his own blundering way, pushing us all towards the physical limits of the earth.:|
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may you burn in hell, my dear foreigner.

Good news! Ill be dead long before our country is gone. I think we should take yours ;)
 

BlueApple

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<< Hrm... if our agenda in Kuwait was to preserve our flow of oil, then what was our agenda in the whole Kosovo thing? Did we ever get anything out of helping Kosovo? Seems like United States is good people to me. >>


It was a NATO peace-keeping misson.
 

teriba

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You guys all seem to be missing the point. People listen to terrorism, people don't listen to peaceful protest. I live in BC where peaceful protest abounds. It seems like it has become many peoples careers out here, chaining themselves to trees, camping out on parliament, etc. These people are not only not listened too, but they are detested. I am not promoting terrorism, but I am saying it is the only way to get attention in todays world. How about this:

"The 60 million people who starve to death every year could be adequately fed by the grain saved if Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10 percent."

"Every 2 seconds, a child dies of starvation."

That's a lot of people dying of starvation, the death toll on September 11 is a mere drop in the bucket and inconsequential in the grand scheme.

If you can prove that George W Bush has an iq higher than 80 I will gladly retract my ignorant comment.

All of you just talk about military power, how you can crush all the other nations. We are dependent on you for our own survival? F*ck that, who is going to attack us. We don't need a military presence and you only do because you use offensive economic tactics. If you would just take a couple steps back you too would not have any enemies and wouldn't have to spend several trillion dollars annually on your defense budget.