It Looks Like Trump is Gearing up for a Presidential Run (2024).

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sportage

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We will see many republicans running for governor, running for mayor, running for congress in the next months as 2022 approaches. And like Glenn Youngkin, they all will distance themselves from Donald Trump.
But then, when Donald Trump definitely announces his candidacy for 2024, one thing we all know for damn sure....
All of these candidates and previously elected candidates like Glenn Youngkin will absolutely embrace Donald Trump.

Every one of them will pledge undying loyalty to Trump, and they will campaign for Trump, and they will appear on stage with Donald Trump. So.... just ignore the Trump distancing crap coming from these republican candidates because once Trump does announce, and he will announce, but once Trump does announce then every Glenn Youngkin out there running or having already been elected will stick to Trump like shit sticks to a shoe.

And just wait....
There will come a day when Glenn Youngkin falls all over himself denying that he ever distanced his campaign from Donald Trump. And it will be sickening to watch his lie, but Glenn Youngkin won't care about lying or his kissing Donald Trump's ass once Trump announces. You see, to care about what people think about you, you must first have morals and a soul. Glenn Youngkin has neither a soul nor morals, just like Donald Trump. I wonder what those cross-over Youngkin voters will think of their guy Glenn once the true Glenn Youngkin is revealed??? Once they realize who and what Youngkin really is???
yes, I wonder.....???
 
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soundforbjt

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The bigger question is (if the VA election is relevant) can republicans keep him from running if the VA strategy continues to work.
 

hal2kilo

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Trump will IMO win the presidential election if he actually decides to run. There is talk that Biden won't run in 2024 because of his age. He will be 82. So, who do we have? Kamala Harris? I don't think so, and if she does run Trump will destroy her. I think Trump will easily beat Biden if he does run. Are you people ready for another round of Trump as president? A Trump 2.0 if you say...

Trump looks like he'll run to reclaim the presidency in 2024 (msn.com)
Hopefully with Trump Org indictments.
 

trenchfoot

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The election is 3 years away, that is an eternity in politics.


It seems to me the essence of what happens in the next three years sort'a boils down to how badly the Repubs are able to block and dismantle the Dems efforts at giving the middle class and the poor a fair share of the nation's bounty and how well Biden and Schumer will be able to get Manchin and Sinema to play team sports rather than continuing to have those two self-interested wrecking balls whoring themselves out to their corporate handlers.
 

MrSquished

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It seems to me the essence of what happens in the next three years sort'a boils down to how badly the Repubs are able to block and dismantle the Dems efforts at giving the middle class and the poor a fair share of the nation's bounty and how well Biden and Schumer will be able to get Manchin and Sinema to play team sports rather than continuing to have those two self-interested wrecking balls whoring themselves out to their corporate handlers.
If they get BBB passed. Good. But just as important as passing legislation is calling out these shitty Republican lies straight up. Straight talk. Don't be so damned polite. Don't have to be like Trump, but just call out the lies as lies.
 
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Amol S.

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Trump will IMO win the presidential election if he actually decides to run. There is talk that Biden won't run in 2024 because of his age. He will be 82. So, who do we have? Kamala Harris? I don't think so, and if she does run Trump will destroy her. I think Trump will easily beat Biden if he does run. Are you people ready for another round of Trump as president? A Trump 2.0 if you say...

Trump looks like he'll run to reclaim the presidency in 2024 (msn.com)
Yea, if he wins again it will be a much more vocal, angrier and vindictive Trump. It will get bad.
That's rather understating how bad it would be if Trump is elected in 2024.

Dems need a new candidate. Even if Biden's approvals improve, he's too old.

Three ideas that could help Democrats in 2024



Some what of a chance that democrats may win by a large amount

I know what I might be saying would be hard for the Democrats to implement, but if they can ... there is no way Trump can win a legitimate election, and Democrats might even flip the state of Texas, Kansas, and Mississippi(birth state) no joke. Now the only problem is... how to legally prove that Britney Spears is eligible to run in 2024 and it would be Spears Harris 2024. It worked for the Republicans by using Schwarzenegger to win California, so why not Democrats try doing the same thing by propping up a celebrity that is currently hot in the news. At the same time, Spears might be able to garner support from those who are under conservatorship. Another side fact, Fox news was pro-ending Spears conservatorship. Spears even once said she was in support of BLM. https://hollywoodlife.com/2020/06/0...lives-matter-blackout-tuesday-post-instagram/



50-50 chance that democrats may win by a large amount

This would require Democrats to gain at least two senate seats in 2022, for this idea to be worth it. Warnock and Manchin both basically declare that they will run for POTUS, where basically Warnock is the Presidential Democrat Nominee (Georgia), and Manchin is basically the stage-prop for WV votes vice-presidential Democrat nominee. The last time there were tow democrats from red states running for office was in 1992 and 1996. Democrats won big.



100% chance that Texas would vote blue, but also a 100% chance of a SCOTUS case that the Democrat Presidential and Vice-Presidential nominee is invalid

This idea is an ultimate win strategy for the Democrats, that is if they can win a court case that would definitely happen. Basically the mayor of Dallas, Texas (Eric Johnson) is the democrat presidential nominee, and the Mayor of Houston, Texas (Sylvester Turner). The only problem that has very high chance of occurring is a SCOTUS case where some Republicans argue that it is illegal for a Presidential and Vice-Precedential nominee of a particular party to be from the same state. This is in fact a very sticky topic, as there is no clear cut answer, no where does it state it is illegal nor does it say anywhere that it is legal. The 12th Amendment only refers to such situation when it comes in regard to electors. The 2000 presidential election was considered the closest to which this would have been a major issue, as Dick Cheney was in fact a resident of Texas when he accepted his nomination of VP nominee for the Republican Party. He only diverted this problem by applying to the race by selling his residence in Texas and moving to Wyoming. One of the two could do the same and maybe move to Miami, otherwise after voters in Texas vote blue and what happens in the Electoral College votes in Texas could be used as proof of the need to update the 12th amendment.

For those reasons Democrats need Johnson Turner 2024! Democrats will win big like 1996 style!
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HomerJS

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From evidence to date Democrats need to take up lying on a regular basis. It's really effective
 
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trenchfoot

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From evidence to date Democrats need to take up lying on a regular basis. It's really effective


From a purely logical point of view, hell yeah. Difference being the Repubs have cornered themselves into having nothing but lies to fight against the facts and the truths of their treachery and miscreant behavior primarily due to their having to support Trump and the party cadre's daily lies and false accusations.

Whereas the Dems have their legislative record and agenda that speaks loud and clear toward forwarding the interests of the middle class and the poor.

It still amazes me though that millions of working class Repubs will fight tooth and nail against their own best interests due to their being hyped into a partisan rage by their leadership where the truth and facts of their leadership's total dedication toward forwarding and protecting the interests of the wealthy gets buried deep out of sight and out of mind.
 

blackangst1

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That's rather understating how bad it would be if Trump is elected in 2024.

Dems need a new candidate. Even if Biden's approvals improve, he's too old.

The GOP needs a new candidate also. Trump is too old, and, so far, has no platform to run on except I was robbed. I dont know how far that'll go.
 

MrSquished

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The GOP needs a new candidate also. Trump is too old, and, so far, has no platform to run on except I was robbed. I dont know how far that'll go.
If you haven't noticed, no Republican has a platform. In NJ, the GQP candidate had nothing but very vague general speak. In Virginia, it was a non existent bogeyman CRT to take back the schools, the ones that rank #4 in the country. None of them have platforms except of lies, misinformation, and libs are bad and communist.

The GQP is just a horrible party all around.
 

sportage

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I doubt that Biden will run in 2024, and I expect a minority person to take the candidacy. Very possibly a black man, but it could be a woman. Could be Hillary. I'd vote for Hillary.

Will be interesting if Trump does run. And will the people remember what life was like under the first Trump? And, will people really want to go through all of that again under a second Trump? Or even worse?
No doubt Ron DeSantis has presidential aspirations so we'll see how a Donald Trump candidacy handles THAT??? And how about Rick Scott? Old baldie will be chomping at the bit for his chance to run the country. You might even see a Michael Flynn up there on stage as a candidate. However, only if Trump does not run and only with Donald Trump's blessings.

Europe anyone????
 

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I'll just go on record and say...I doubt we see another Democratic, 60+ white male president for a very long time. Republican side...whatever. But I think Biden was an anomaly running with one of the most motivated Democratic bases in years.
 

Fenixgoon

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I doubt that Biden will run in 2024, and I expect a minority person to take the candidacy. Very possibly a black man, but it could be a woman. Could be Hillary. I'd vote for Hillary.

Will be interesting if Trump does run. And will the people remember what life was like under the first Trump? And, will people really want to go through all of that again under a second Trump? Or even worse?
No doubt Ron DeSantis has presidential aspirations so we'll see how a Donald Trump candidacy handles THAT??? And how about Rick Scott? Old baldie will be chomping at the bit for his chance to run the country. You might even see a Michael Flynn up there on stage as a candidate. However, only if Trump does not run and only with Donald Trump's blessings.

Europe anyone????
sadly, Hillary would be a guaranteed loss. 100,000,000,000%. people have been so conditioned against her for literally decades, that she doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.
 

eelw

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Yeah Harris unless she does something in the next 3 years won’t be the Dem candidate in 2024. Mayor Pete (especially if he can get a lot done with the infrastructure bil) is one of the front runners.
 
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I agree to a certain extent but the absolute chaos and insanity of Trump's one lucky win still has people believing he's some invincible electoral juggernaut five years after it happened. He lost the popular vote in every election he took part in by millions each time and only won in 2016 because he got lucky. Despite attempting to cheat in every way possible in 2020 he lost by one of the largest vote margins for an incumbent in modern history. This is not someone who is good at winning elections!

So CAN he run and win? Sure - if he's not indicted or what remains of his brain is still functioning in 2024 he could capture the nomination and anyone who captures either party's nomination has at least a puncher's chance to win. Could he attempt another coup in 2024 and be successful? Also possible. That all said though, predictions this far out are essentially astrology.

What do you mean Trump got lucky? He dominated the GOP field and the electoral college has been electing Republicans president against the will of the people for decades. Republicans have won the popular vote exactly once in the last eight presidential elections and their built-in advantages in our completely undemocratic senate dwarfs their advantage in the bullshit electoral college. All Trump has to do to win is have senate Republiqans + Manchin keep Biden from getting anything accomplished. He is well on his way.
 

Amol S.

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Let us make the vague assumption that Joe Biden does run for 2024. The question now becomes, who was better? The fact of the matter is, moderates will vote for someone who got things done. With the staunch Republican opposition in congress, I doubt anything can be done.
 

trenchfoot

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Let us make the vague assumption that Joe Biden does run for 2024. The question now becomes, who was better? The fact of the matter is, moderates will vote for someone who got things done. With the staunch Republican opposition in congress, I doubt anything can be done.


Which then leads to the reasons of why Mitch McConnell's singular agenda of denying the Dems anything of substance in the way of legislative victories. The more victories the Dems rack up in the way of providing the middle class and the poor with ways to improve their lives and lifestyles the more obvious it becomes how the Repub leadership is trying their best to deny those things to their own working class party members to the point where it all becomes horrifically undeniable in ways that are very damaging to their efforts at keeping their working stiffs from wanting to know what's really going on.
 

cytg111

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AOC to run for pres 2024.
Anyway, was thinking bout the Trumps going further into the future… Am I the only one who sees Junior and Eric deflating into sacks of nothing once their father passes of old age or KFC? When there is no empty patriarch at the end of the table to seek approval from?
 

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Let us make the vague assumption that Joe Biden does run for 2024. The question now becomes, who was better? The fact of the matter is, moderates will vote for someone who got things done. With the staunch Republican opposition in congress, I doubt anything can be done.
I’m not aware of any basis for the idea that moderates vote for people who ‘get things done’. If anything I suspect it’s the opposite.
 
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MrSquished

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I'm pretty sure Biden won't run in 2024. I think the Democrats might fuck themselves by having a camp that will refuse to vote for another white dude, even though I think someone like mayor Pete would be the best because he's just so quick on his feet and can really decimate those right-wing talking points better than anyone.

I mean, I'd really want Elizabeth Warren to become president but only a moderate Democrat can win and mayor Pete has those credentials