It Looks Like Trump is Gearing up for a Presidential Run (2024).

[pcgeek11]

Look for an echo chamber and you're gonna find one. Plenty of disagreement on here regarding a wide range of issues.

Not saying everyone in the chamber are in exact sync. with each other, but close enough.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Not saying everyone in the chamber are in exact sync. with each other, but close enough.

So mostly agreeing with the same ideals with some disagreements on minor points and maybe some methods on how to enact those ideals. Almost like normal members of a normal political party.

 

[pcgeek11]

So mostly agreeing with the same ideals with some disagreements on minor points and maybe some methods on how to enact those ideals. Almost like normal members of a normal political party.

If you can't or won't see what happens in this forum as a left leaning echo chamber I can't help you and your blindness.

When anyone expresses any right leaning ideas of thoughts / opinions they get lambasted by the echo chamber.

 

[Fenixgoon]

If you can't or won't see what happens in this forum as a left leaning echo chamber I can't help you and your blindness.

When anyone expresses any right leaning ideas of thoughts / opinions they get lambasted by the echo chamber.

because those ideas are almost always based in 1) stereotypes/racism 2) easily disproved theories 3) utter bullshit

 

[pcgeek11]

because those ideas are almost always based in 1) stereotypes/racism 2) easily disproved theories 3) utter bullshit

This is exactly what I was saying.

Thanks for proving it.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

This is exactly what I was saying.

Thanks for proving it.

So express something right leaning that isn't part of those ideals, that's in current opposition to liberal ideals. No weasel shit like 'restricting brown people from voting isn't actually racist'.

 

[Fenixgoon]

This is exactly what I was saying.

Thanks for proving it.

popular conservative policies:

secure the border - rooted in racism/xenophobia
secure voting - rooted in racism
muslim ban - rooted in racism
trickle down - 50 years has proven it doesn't work
tax cuts for the rich - 50 years has proven it doesn't work
america first - rooted in racism/xenophobia
no welfare - proven to keep people poor
no universal healthcare - proven to keep people sick AND poor
massive police state - gives us the highest incarceration rate per capita in the world
widespread available guns - gives us the highest gun death rate in the (edit: developed) world
abortion bans - proven to completely screw women, especially those who are poor and/or black
"free speech" - never really about free speech

now, you're welcome to dispute those points with actual data, but until then...

 

[MrSquished]

I hope Trump declares a couple months before the midterms

 

[cytg111]

Who would I what?

Kamala Harris has done nothing since she was elected. She also sounds like a fool (as bad as Trump) when she speaks.

I agree, Biden should have given her way more room to operate, like Obama did for him.
The only thing I dislike about Kamala speaking is the pitch, she sounds like some submissive girl, which is of course straight up wrong, but it *sounds* like... But man, if you can forgive locker room talk, I am sure as hell not gonna hold a tone of frequency against anyone.

 

[brycejones]

This is exactly what I was saying.

Thanks for proving it.

So the policies you support that don't fail for those reasons are secret and you're unwilling to discuss them?

 

[thilanliyan]

I didn't mean death. Just mentally unfit to continue.

Did you vote for Trump or Biden?

Trump is mentally unfit also, but if you voted for him, what's really your beef with Biden?

 

[soundforbjt]

I hope Trump declares a couple months before the midterms

I heard someone on the news say he was planning to announce in about a month, I hope that’s true.

 

[Pens1566]

I heard someone on the news say he was planning to announce in about a month, I hope that’s true.

Yes, speculation that he will announce soon so any pending indictments or other legal proceedings could then be seen as purely political. Never mind all the mountains of evidence.

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, speculation that he will announce soon so any pending indictments or other legal proceedings could then be seen as purely political. Never mind all the mountains of evidence.

I do not think that will be effective.

 

[Pens1566]

I do not think that will be effective.

Not in reality, but it will for his cult members.

And I was just relaying the logic behind the rumors. Not suggesting it would work.

 

[fskimospy]

Not in reality, but it will for his cult members.

And I was just relaying the logic behind the rumors. Not suggesting it would work.

His cult members didn't need more of an excuse and really they are irrelevant anyway.

As I said if anything I think this may backfire on him unless he views indictment and prosecution as inevitable. I know if I were Garland I would feel it was far more important to prosecute a guy actively seeking to return to power.

 

[Pens1566]

His cult members didn't need more of an excuse and really they are irrelevant anyway.

As I said if anything I think this may backfire on him unless he views indictment and prosecution as inevitable. I know if I were Garland I would feel it was far more important to prosecute a guy actively seeking to return to power.

Of course they don't need it, but it's never stopped him from adding extra grievances to the list for his rally crowds. It would just let him stop talking about Dominion routers and start bitching about {insert prosecuting jurisdiction here}.

As for Garland ... again, I wouldn't expect much. He's going to follow DoJ policy and not initiate anything close to an election cycle. Now, that period isn't defined, but we're arguably in the 2022 cycle now.

 

[fskimospy]

Of course they don't need it, but it's never stopped him from adding extra grievances to the list for his rally crowds. It would just let him stop talking about Dominion routers and start bitching about {insert prosecuting jurisdiction here}.

As for Garland ... again, I wouldn't expect much. He's going to follow DoJ policy and not initiate anything close to an election cycle. Now, that period isn't defined, but we're arguably in the 2022 cycle now.

I would bet significant sums of money that Trump is federally indicted on one or more crimes.

 

[uallas5]

Of course they don't need it, but it's never stopped him from adding extra grievances to the list for his rally crowds. It would just let him stop talking about Dominion routers and start bitching about {insert prosecuting jurisdiction here}.

As for Garland ... again, I wouldn't expect much. He's going to follow DoJ policy and not initiate anything close to an election cycle. Now, that period isn't defined, but we're arguably in the 2022 cycle now.

It's not defined because the US is ALWAYS in an election cycle. Trump said the quiet part out loud when he announced his re-election campaign before he was even sworn in.

 

[Pens1566]

I would bet significant sums of money that Trump is federally indicted on one or more crimes.

I know you think that. I just disagree. Not that I wouldn't be a huge fan of such a move.

I don't see it coming from an admin that has been one of the least confrontational to almost any issue they're dealing with that I can ever remember. To have them do a complete 180 and start what would be one of the largest political firestorms in our history? Don't see it. Especially since Biden is too caught up in his reputation of getting along/working with everyone, and Garland is even more of a moderate than Biden.

It's the one huge issue I have with him. He either doesn't see/understand what the right is actually doing, or he does and he thinks he can still work with them.

 

[fskimospy]

I know you think that. I just disagree. Not that I wouldn't be a huge fan of such a move.

I don't see it coming from an admin that has been one of the least confrontational to almost any issue they're dealing with that I can ever remember. To have them do a complete 180 and start what would be one of the largest political firestorms in our history? Don't see it. Especially since Biden is too caught up in his reputation of getting along/working with everyone, and Garland is even more of a moderate than Biden.

It's the one huge issue I have with him. He either doesn't see/understand what the right is actually doing, or he does and he thinks he can still work with them.

Does this do anything to change your mind?

Garland Faces Growing Pressure as Jan. 6 Investigation Widens (Published 2022)

The inquiry is a test for President Biden and Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, who both came into office promising to restore the Justice Department’s independence.

www.nytimes.com

As recently as late last year, Mr. Biden confided to his inner circle that he believed former President Donald J. Trump was a threat to democracy and should be prosecuted, according to two people familiar with his comments.

NOT prosecuting Trump would be a 180 from their position.

 

[Pens1566]

It's not defined because the US is ALWAYS in an election cycle. Trump said the quiet part out loud when he announced his re-election campaign before he was even sworn in.

The first part isn't really true. Otherwise you wouldn't have had the prosecutions of Duncan Hunter, Traficant, or Blagojevich. They're just way more unlikely to happen due to political considerations. Which is the opposite of justice being blind from my POV.

And yeah, he did technically file the paperwork for his 2020 campaign on inauguration day. But that was more of a fundraising gimmick so he could keep the grift rolling.

 

[Pens1566]

Does this do anything to change your mind?

Garland Faces Growing Pressure as Jan. 6 Investigation Widens (Published 2022)

The inquiry is a test for President Biden and Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, who both came into office promising to restore the Justice Department’s independence.

www.nytimes.com

NOT prosecuting Trump would be a 180 from their position.

No, it really doesn't. It's all talk and speculation.

If anything, I expect we'll get some version of "Yes we believe there were potential crimes, but the process would be difficult legally and divisive to the country. For the good of the republic and in the spirit of bringing us together ... blah blah blah". And I wouldn't even count on that, except maybe in leak form. They're also very cognizant of what the "on the street" fallout of such action would bring after what happend on 1/6.

 

[fskimospy]

No, it really doesn't. It's all talk and speculation.

If anything, I expect we'll get some version of "Yes we believe there were potential crimes, but the process would be difficult legally and divisive to the country. For the good of the republic and in the spirit of bringing us together ... blah blah blah". And I wouldn't even count on that, except maybe in leak form. They're also very cognizant of what the "on the street" fallout of such action would bring after what happend on 1/6.

So even direct reporting from a reputable source that Biden wants what you said he didn't does zero to change your mind?

That doesn't make any sense. Shouldn't evidence change people's minds?

 

[Pens1566]

So even direct reporting from a reputable source that Biden wants what you said he didn't does zero to change your mind?

That doesn't make any sense. Shouldn't evidence change people's minds?

They can want to do it, or think it needs done, and still not go through with it for the reasons I listed earlier. It's not an inconsistent position. Again, I don't agree with it (not doing anything) or advocate for it. I just think that's what's going to end up happening.