It is possible that Democrats will gain, not lose in November. Here's why/how.

[Pens1566]

Have to keep the house for it to matter.

Judges ...

 

[Zorba]

Judges ...

Well yeah, but Joe and Sinema aren't blocking judges.

 

[fleshconsumed]

We still got Rachael Maddow, remember...
She'll kick some ass, as long as that ass kicking is only required on a Monday night, that is.

But seriously, I say just let them all win, let them take over everything, an all out takeover by the insane Trump loyalist. Lets go 100% Giuliani. 100% Sidney Powell. 100% Steve Bannon. Lets go 100% Rick Scott and 100% Doug Mastriano.
Why? Because,I want to see exactly what this Trump envision for America would actually look like for Americans when fully implemented. I really do want America to experience this. Then, we can finally get it out of our system and return back to the real America. But in order to return to the real America, it looks like we have no choice but to first experience that Trump envisioned America of total insanity.

I want to see the reaction from America when racism is fully implemented. When women are arrested and imprisoned for birth control. I want to see impoverished senior citizens taxed, and the homeless taxed for living in tents. I want to see gays forced into cure-the-gay programs, and transgenders forced into mental institutions. I want to see election outcomes determined solely by Donald Trump, and the democrat challengers imprisoned. I want to see it all because this is something America must go thru, apparently, if America is too rid itself of this Donald Trump cult mentality.

I think you underestimate how bad it'll get. Remember, 10 million more Americans voted for Trump in 2020 than in 2016, 10 million Americans watched him and decided this is what they wanted. If they haven't woken up yet, what makes you think they're going to wake up if it gets worse? Majority of Republicans either explicitly or implicitly (through votes) support minority oppression, they don't care about that, after all it's not them who are getting hurt. And they won't really care if it hurts them economically either. Did they care about Trump tax cuts that gave away money to the upper class while screwing many in the middle? No. Did they care that Trump tariffs hurt farmers? No. Did they care that Trump's abysmal response to COVID-19 made economic downturn much worse than it had to be? No. Did Texans do anything about their electrical grid that resulted in numerous people dead last year? No, they just blamed renewable energy. They will always find a way to rationalize and dismiss all the negative outcomes.

Again, I know it's tempting to just throw your hands in the air and let them have their cake. The problem with that is that it doesn't affect just them, it also affects everybody else in the country. If we could isolate negative consequences to just the R's, I'd be all for it at this point. But we can't. Just look at Afghanistan, Iran, and Russia what happens when you put right wing authoritarians in charge. I think you're mistaken if you think R's will stop before it gets that bad.

 

[cliftonite]

0 chance IMO.

 

[gothuevos]

He is the Peter Schiff of political prognosticators. He predicts the same thing all the time and ignores it when he’s wrong. At least I think Peter Schiff is running some gold grift.

Unlike you, I know when we are conquered. But you can keep making snarky comments about 10000 year GOP rule or whatever. You and I are probably one of the first people they'll be hauling away.

 

[fskimospy]

Unlike you, I know when I am conquered.

Just like how you knew you were conquered in November, 2020?

 

[Pens1566]

Well yeah, but Joe and Sinema aren't blocking judges.

True. For now. But they are blocking things (including removing the filibuster) that would be moot with 2 more seats.

 

[gothuevos]

Just like how you knew you were conquered in November, 2020?

Won that battle but losing the war.

 

[fskimospy]

Won that battle but losing the war.

Has being unable to predict who would control the federal government two days out given you any cause to question your ability to predict who will control the federal government a half century from now?

 

[dawp]

just a little food for thought

Will the National GOP Go the Way of the California GOP?

Six years of lying and conspiracy theories are threatening the Republican suburban-rural electoral coalition across the country.

www.thebulwark.com

 

[gothuevos]

Has being unable to predict who would control the federal government two days out given you any cause to question your ability to predict who will control the federal government a half century from now?

2020 was an eternity ago and even an eternal optimist like you (?) can admit that things have exponentially picked up steam, and not in a good way.

For example, bills/laws allowing state legislatures to ignore the will of the people did not exist before the 2020 elections (correct me if I'm wrong).

The rhetoric, which was already heated, has picked up another 1000 notches.

 

[feralkid]

2020 was an eternity ago and even an eternal optimist like you (?) can admit that things have exponentially picked up steam, and not in a good way.

For example, bills/laws allowing state legislatures to ignore the will of the people did not exist before the 2020 elections (correct me if I'm wrong).

The rhetoric, which was already heated, has picked up another 1000 notches.

Just how many pants can be shat in one day?

 

[nOOky]

I doubt Democrats will gain. What will be happening come voting time is that we may well be in a recession. Inflation is and will be high, the stock market and people's 401k's will be tanking. Literally anything Democrats claim to have done won't mean shit if these conditions still exist. Independents will vote R if only for the thought that change might help.

Biden literally throwing money at every problem that comes along does not sit well with anyone. There should be no talk of student loan forgiveness right now, sorry. No more stimulus checks, no money handed out for baby formula. Yes jobs are aplenty and people are still spending money. But responsible fiscally conservative people are tired of reading about all of this money being handed out, and the polls will reflect that. Whether or not inflation and gas prices are the results of Biden's policies does not matter simply because they are indeed happening under his watch. That's enough for most of the country to vote Dems out. Doesn't mean it's fair or correct, it's just how people will react.

I also highly doubt liberal voters can be shocked enough to get off their lazy asses and vote in droves, it's easier to whine about unfairness after the fact.

 

[fskimospy]

2020 was an eternity ago and even an eternal optimist like you (?) can admit that things have exponentially picked up steam, and not in a good way.

For example, bills/laws allowing state legislatures to ignore the will of the people did not exist before the 2020 elections (correct me if I'm wrong).

The rhetoric, which was already heated, has picked up another 1000 notches.

I’m not an eternal optimist, I think the most likely electoral outcome this year is that republicans take one or both houses of congress.

What I am not however is addicted to doomsaying and I know I don’t have the ability to predict political outcomes even a few years out, much less decades out. I think you could use some humility in that department.

 

[gothuevos]

I’m not an eternal optimist, I think the most likely electoral outcome this year is that republicans take one or both houses of congress.

What I am not however is addicted to doomsaying and I know I don’t have the ability to predict political outcomes even a few years out, much less decades out. I think you could use some humility in that department.

Fair enough.

 

[K1052]

In somewhat related news the fumbling incompetent corruption of the Trump administration turns out to have backfired once again, denying red states several seats they would have otherwise gotten in reapportionment.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1527345221016571914

 

[K1052]

I’m not an eternal optimist, I think the most likely electoral outcome this year is that republicans take one or both houses of congress.

This basically though I'm somewhat inclined to believe the Ds do better than Biden's approval would lead one to believe. Some significant gaps showing between his approval and interest in voting for Dem congressional/gov candidates. And the court has yet to poop out its Roe/Casey disaster.

 

[Indus]

2020 was an eternity ago and even an eternal optimist like you (?) can admit that things have exponentially picked up steam, and not in a good way.

For example, bills/laws allowing state legislatures to ignore the will of the people did not exist before the 2020 elections (correct me if I'm wrong).

The rhetoric, which was already heated, has picked up another 1000 notches.

I used to think you were for that and we were the idiots wanting healthcare for all and democracy and the good stuff.

I think I'm realistic now that we're too polarized and we won't have agreement on anything really since its not difference.. its now owning the libs and wanting opposite of them even if its harmful.

So we can only do what's good for our few states and hopefully we can divorce and leave without a civil war. Even that seems too much to hope for.

 

[gothuevos]

I used to think you were for that and we were the idiots wanting healthcare for all and democracy and the good stuff.

I think I'm realistic now that we're too polarized and we won't have agreement on anything really since its not difference.. its now owning the libs and wanting opposite of them even if its harmful.

So we can only do what's good for our few states and hopefully we can divorce and leave without a civil war. Even that seems too much to hope for.

I mean, GOP voters have already said things like "He's not hurting the right people" and "When can we use the guns?"

We have rapidly advanced past the "own the libs."

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Anything other than an absolute unmitigated blowout of Dems this midcycle election should shock the Republican party to the core. If they can't win clean under these conditions I wouldn't even blame them for more coup attempts.

 

[dank69]

Anything other than an absolute unmitigated blowout of Dems this midcycle election should shock the Republican party to the core. If they can't win clean under these conditions I wouldn't even blame them for more coup attempts.

I believe the GOP has more seats up for grabs in the Senate this cycle, so at least the Dems have that going for them. [/BillMurray]

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

What's-her-name beat Booker last time, but I have always wondered if Booker could have beaten Mitch.

Now he has a second shot and Paul is a far bigger imbecile.

 

[Muse]

That is interesting.

Biden was able to pull 80% of the native American vote in some places.

and that is what I would expect. The black vote too, and when push comes to shove I think most of the non-white vote.

You guys here seem to like to fantasize about what dissolution in America can look like but I don't expect things to get so weird.

I would hate to see Kevin McCarthy as Speaker, honestly I would have to tune him out. And Mitch is ghastly.

 

[eelw]

I would hate to see Kevin McCarthy as Speaker, honestly I would have to tune him out. And Mitch is ghastly.

Doubt enough R house members want the spineless one to become speaker. Will be the case how Paul Ryan collected enough support to overtake to be voted speaker.

 

[kage69]

I also highly doubt liberal voters can be shocked enough to get off their lazy asses and vote in droves, it's easier to whine about unfairness after the fact.

SCOTUS seems to be assisting with this, Moscow Mitch bringing up a Federal ban on abortion just days after the leaked draft seems to have driven the point home. Poll quoted on NPR today of registered voters indicated more motivation on the (D) side, >20% difference between the two groups.

2/3rds of Americans want access to safe abortion to stay right where it is. I kind of doubt there can't be blowback over a religious minority getting the SCOTUS to do a first, to actually revoke rights. I say us because we all know damn well Roe v Wade will just be the beginning of this regression out of the 21st century. The evangelical white racists who have dumped democracy in favor of fascism are just getting started. Thankfully I think they've pissed off enough women and young people. USPS is about to have it's DeJoy tumor removed, and we still have Jan 6th fun to see too. Still a lot than can happen, and probably will. We'll see.