If China fails to contain Covid and it continues to be as strict in their containment practices, the Global Economy will continue to be turbulent for that reason alone. Then there are the Russia centered issues. It could take years for things to normalize. We in NA will fare relatively well. Elsewhere the turbulence is going to have more serious consequences, especially in Africa.
The perfect storm for Trump/Clones.
If China fails to contain Covid and it continues to be as strict in their containment practices, the Global Economy will continue to be turbulent for that reason alone. Then there are the Russia centered issues. It could take years for things to normalize. We in NA will fare relatively well. Elsewhere the turbulence is going to have more serious consequences, especially in Africa.
The perfect storm for Trump/Clones.
But can they do this in the dark? Cause if they CANT … I have to imagine that there will be people with guns in the streets ready to tear shit down.A lot of state governors and secretaries of state are on the ballot THIS NOVEMBER.
So if the big lie supporters are voted in, they can easily put in a system to put in their preferred results for the electoral college in 2024.
Probably too complicated for most to understand who just have resentment for the current economy and want to vote the dems out.
But can they do this in the dark? Cause if they CANT … I have to imagine that there will be people with guns in the streets ready to tear shit down.
I mean if someone openly subverts the democratic system … its open season on their heads right? Like any operating dictator outthere.
Well, they can switch out votes and call it “legal” all they want but….Why would they have to do it in the dark? If they've shown us anything in the past 5+ years, they don't care who sees what they do, as long as they get away with doing it. They aren't subverting" anything if they legally change the rules/definition of what the democratic system is. THESE PEOPLE KNOW NO LIMITS AND DO NOT GIVE TWO FUCKS as long as they retain power.
I'm not so sure about that. They would be hard pressed to end democracy before the election so I imagine if anything they would assert their ability to overturn election results they don't like. The thing is they could already have done that in 2020 and if they try it in 2024 despite it being 'legal' I think it would be similarly viewed as a coup.Why would they have to do it in the dark? If they've shown us anything in the past 5+ years, they don't care who sees what they do, as long as they get away with doing it. They aren't "subverting" anything if they "legally" change the rules/definition of what the democratic system is. They've repeatedly found and exploited every loophole and backdoor already established within the current system. So much of the election process is just based on tradition and assuming that nobody would actually take advantage of these things to cheat to win, but here we are... they tried in 2020 and they will do it again in 2022/24 and now have more people in place to succeed.
THESE PEOPLE KNOW NO LIMITS AND DO NOT GIVE TWO FUCKS as long as they retain power.
But can they do this in the dark? Cause if they CANT … I have to imagine that there will be people with guns in the streets ready to tear shit down.
I mean if someone openly subverts the democratic system … its open season on their heads right? Like any operating dictator outthere.
Biden controls federal law enforcement and the military, and the rank and file of the military, contrary to popular opinion, leans left.LOL the libs don't own guns and are chicken shit.
Did they do anything when Gore was made to lose?
Did they do anything when McConnel stole a Scotus seat?
Are they doing anything over Roe v Wade?
You give the democratic system way too much credit. If anything on Jan 6th we got LUCKY someone called the Maryland governor to send the National Guard and he said you're not supposed to call us.. it supposed to be someone higher up but whatever.. we'll take your call and send them in.
But that was nothing more than a band aid! The wound is still there and the democratic system is still bleeding.
It might just be mortally wounded.. as we'll find out in 2022 and then in 2024!
And if they consider themselves republican, they have honour unlike this MAGAtard scumBiden controls federal law enforcement and the military, and the rank and file of the military, contrary to popular opinion, leans left.
I'm not so sure about that. They would be hard pressed to end democracy before the election so I imagine if anything they would assert their ability to overturn election results they don't like. The thing is they could already have done that in 2020 and if they try it in 2024 despite it being 'legal' I think it would be similarly viewed as a coup.
If Biden wins re-election by the usual standard and states try this to overturn his victory I think there's a decent chance he refuses to recognize the result and we have some sort of civil conflict. I know that's what I would support.
It's strange that you continue to make this claim when I already showed you that the military rank and file is in fact left leaning - why would they join the right? Did you just not internalize that data because it went against your doom narrative?So ...soccer moms, college kids, Starbucks baristas, and academics (I don't use these terms disparagingly, I fall in this group) vs most active/former military, most active/former LEOs, and various other paramilitary groups and militias literally trained from a young age to hate us. This type of thinking is going to get a lot of us hurt and killed. Fact is that we are already a conquered people and it happened without a single shot being fired.
This is like saying the Russian people are going to rise up and overthrow their authoritarian government. Nope.
It is not that simple.I already showed you that the military rank and file is in fact left leaning
That is not true.Also the main reason why Russians won't rise up and overthrow their authoritarian government is that authoritarian government controls the army.
So basically you're actually saying that Biden will win, lol. Oops!
Yeah based on polls run by them, not 3rd partyThat is not true.
The main reason Russian's will not rise up is the majority of Russia approve of their government:
Putin approval rating Russia 2024 | Statista
Vladimir Putin's popularity level saw a slight increase in February 2024. The vast majority of Russians approved of activities of their country's president.www.statista.com
Exactly how honest do you think people are to pollsters in a country where criticizing the government can get you imprisoned or thrown out a window?That is not true.
The main reason Russian's will not rise up is the majority of Russia approve of their government:
Putin approval rating Russia 2024 | Statista
Vladimir Putin's popularity level saw a slight increase in February 2024. The vast majority of Russians approved of activities of their country's president.www.statista.com
You are correct that it's 100% constitutional for a state to decline to have an election at all and just award their electors to whoever they want. It's also 100% unconstitutional for the president to run a for profit hotel down the street from the white house where he routinely accepted gifts from foreign governments. Did anyone give a shit? No.It is not that simple.
They will uphold the constitution. The constitution says the states send electors. Says nothing about voting. The states choose their electors however they want. They will accept whatever elector is certified by the state, elected or not. The states get to choose how to run their elections.
It is 100% constitutional for a state to corrupt their own election, reject their election results, or to simply not have an election for president.
Law enforcement is not the domain of the military.It's also 100% unconstitutional for the president to run a for profit hotel down the street from the white house where he routinely accepted gifts from foreign governments. Did anyone give a shit? No.
A legal coup. A constitutional coup. A lawful coup.It is also true that if they try to award their electors to someone who lost the election in their state it will be (correctly) viewed as a coup.
More so then any of us, the military knows what civil* war actually looks like. Without law, all that will remain is civil war. They will pick the least bad option, and uphold the lawful government.People think the law will save us or doom us in a time of crisis because people will do whatever the law says - history shows that is not true. It will come down to power, both political and military.
Still, that was before Trump and when SC had authority… When the global news outlets is running the story “The Experiment is over”… Well if nothing happens then its over.LOL the libs don't own guns and are chicken shit.
Did they do anything when Gore was made to lose?
Did they do anything when McConnel stole a Scotus seat?
Are they doing anything over Roe v Wade?
You give the democratic system way too much credit. If anything on Jan 6th we got LUCKY someone called the Maryland governor to send the National Guard and he said you're not supposed to call us.. it supposed to be someone higher up but whatever.. we'll take your call and send them in.
But that was nothing more than a band aid! The wound is still there and the democratic system is still bleeding.
It might just be mortally wounded.. as we'll find out in 2022 and then in 2024!
You sure about that? Lets ignore the socialist rifles and the left wing militias for a moment.LOL the libs don't own guns and are chicken shit.
That is not true.
The main reason Russian's will not rise up is the majority of Russia approve of their government:
Putin approval rating Russia 2024 | Statista
Vladimir Putin's popularity level saw a slight increase in February 2024. The vast majority of Russians approved of activities of their country's president.www.statista.com
And I’m telling you in situations like this what the law says doesn’t matter and people who think it does will find themselves disabused of that notion very quickly because it won’t go down the way you think. It’s never a case where one side says ‘I’m doing a coup lol’, everyone always claims they are acting to protect the constitution and the country.Law enforcement is not the domain of the military.
A legal coup. A constitutional coup. A lawful coup.
The military will do nothing to oppose it. If the lawful authority orders them to, they will suppress any rebellion against the lawfully obtained government. This is what they swore an oath to do, and they take it very seriously.
More so then any of us, the military knows what civil* war actually looks like. Without law, all that will remain is civil war. They will pick the least bad option, and uphold the lawful government.
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*Have you actually thought what civil war looks like? Really thought about it? I will fill you in what civil war is going to look like:
1. Combatants always live, civilians always die.
2. Militia's rarely fight other combatants, they spend most of their time executing civilians that do not support their side enough and stealing their stuff.
3. As the war grinds on, kidnapping, enslavement, and trafficking becomes commonplace to generate more wealth for the war effort
4. Militia's on either side are always amnestied for their actions at the end of the war, IRA, South Africa, Syria, American civil war 1.0, it is always true. There are no laws, no morals, no right in a civil war. Winning by any means necessary is the only law.
All sides will do this without hesitation. democrat, republican, everyone. Exterminate the civilians, the women, the children, and take their stuff. It always turns into this within 2 months. Desperation justifies all.
The military knows this, and they will crush any civil war by any faction without hesitation or mercy.
And don't forget, each individual governor has a national guard, and there are thousands of individual law enforcement agencies across the country. All of these professional forces are well-armed and typically better-trained than the average citizen. CA's governor will likely retain control of CA Guard, but individual police forces across CA, especially in rural/eastern areas? Same concept with GA, governor will retain national guard, but some of the police forces in the cities will be controlled by mayors.And I’m telling you in situations like this what the law says doesn’t matter and people who think it does will find themselves disabused of that notion very quickly because it won’t go down the way you think. It’s never a case where one side says ‘I’m doing a coup lol’, everyone always claims they are acting to protect the constitution and the country.
Republicans will claim they won because they got the most electoral votes. Biden will claim shifting the electoral votes after the election is unconstitutional. Then you have competing claims, who is right? If SCOTUS rules one way it’s likely people will consider it illegitimate given the way the courts have been politicized.
As far as what the military will think, have you ever served? I have. The people in the military are just like anyone else - they will be confused and uncertain which claim is right and that’s why what really matters is martial and political power.
The law will not save you because when the shit hits the fan the law goes out the window. Trump almost pulled an unconstitutional coup in 2021, do you really think had he succeeded the military would have deposed him to defend the rule of law? Absolutely not. They would have gone where the political power was.