Israeli settlers burn 1,500+ Palestinian olive trees

mrSHEiK124

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1101547.html
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Settlers attack Palestinians following outpost evacuation
By Anshel Pfeffer and Jack Khoury, Haaretz Correspondents
Tags: Palestinians, Settlers

Israeli settlers on horseback set fire on Monday to at least 1,500 Palestinian-owned olive trees in the West Bank as others stoned cars, a
Palestinian security official said.

The incident occurred hours after security forces razed a number of structures built in unauthorized outposts in the West Bank.

Two Palestinian motorists were lightly wounded and five vehicles damaged near the settlement of Yitzhar, outside the Palestinian town of Nablus, said the official, Ghassan Daglas.

He said 10 settlers riding horses and carrying torches set fire to between 1,500 and 2,000 olive trees. Olives are an important cash crop for Palestinians, who have complained of frequent attacks on their groves by settlers.

The violence is part of a "price tag" policy in which settlers retaliate to the outpost removals by harassing local Palestinians.

Police accompanied by Civil Administration officials set out Monday morning to evacuate illegal structures in three unauthorized outposts in the West Bank. The forces demolished two makeshift homes in the Adei Ad outpost and then moved on to Nofei Yarden and Mitzpe Danny.

The police set out only to evacuate illegal structures that were erected in the recent past, not to evacuate the outposts themselves.

Following the evacuation, settlers blocked the main Hawara artery leading to the IDF's headquarters in the northern West Bank.

Palestinians near Nablus accused the IDF of showing too much lenience toward the settlers. They said the settlers set fire to dozens of dunams of privately-owned land and caused damage to a number of vehicles.

"The settlers are being encouraged by the Netanyahu government," said Rasan Darles, a Palestinian official. The settlers, meanwhile, accused the civil administration of "vengeful motives."

"After residents of Adei Ad filed a complaint against a civil administration official for attempted theft. After the official was questioned by police, the civil administration decided to take revenge and destroy the structure," said the Binyamin regional council in the West Bank.

"We are dealing with Civil Administration officials who display heroism against caravans belonging to Jews yet show cowardice and weakness in the knees when dealing with Arab villas and buildings that are built illegally," the Binyamin council said.

"The destruction in Nofei Yarden is also an act of revenge over the complaint that was filed to the police commissioner following the scandalous arrival to the scene of police officers together with seven Arabs a week-and-a-half ago," the settler council said. "Afterwards, there was an attempt to infiltrate the settlement. This was the direct result of the visit by Arabs on that day. As you may recall, MK Uri Ariel raised the subject in the Knesset and now the civil administration and the police are doling out their revenge."

Earlier on Monday, a Palestinian died in an Israeli hospital of gunshot wounds suffered on Sunday along the border with the Gaza Strip after he refused to stop when ordered to do so by an Israeli patrol, a hospital spokeswoman and the army said.

Why doesn't this get any attention? This isn't anything new, settlers, and especially settlers in the Nablus area, tend to get violent whenever the CA or IDF enforces the dismantlement of an illegal outpost. If you ask me this deserves just as much as attention as the rocket fire from Gaza yet it doesn't receive any in the Western media.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

Sorry, your logic is just as irrational as Arabs calling for the destruction of Israel. There are 4 million Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza and a couple more million in Israel, it's ridiculous to suggest they just pack up and leave when most refugees (like myself) still try and hold on to their homeland.
 

Pneumothorax

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Kick those stupid settlers out, those responsible should be punished just as much as if a Palestinian were running around and burning Israeli olive trees.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

so basically you endorse arabs moving to arab lands.

:thumbsup: to the settlers. They are brave and heroic. Not only do they have to fight for freedom against terrorist, they have to fight their own military.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

so basically you endorse arabs moving to arab lands.

:thumbsup: to the settlers. They are brave and heroic. Not only do they have to fight for freedom against terrorist, they have to fight their own military.

Those Arabs are currently living on land that is Arab enough. Before 1948, my forefathers lived on "Arab land" because they owned it, legally, and lived there for hundreds of years. Now my entire extended family are refugees in various parts of the world. Isn't it wonderful how the solution to Europe's "Jewish Problem" created the Jew's "Arab Problem"?

An ideology revolving around a fairy tale that commands millions of people to kick out the millions who are already there should be considered rubbish in this day and age. We're not in Biblical times, there are international conventions that exist to prevent this kind of meshuganah.

The settlers are rash and illogical. Israel continuously parades itself as a beacon of democracy, equality, and peace in the Middle East, and turns a blind eye to its own settlers as they blatantly violate the rights of others who have no choice but to continue living as second class citizens; the olive farmers are entitled to monetary compensation, I doubt Tzahal, the CA, or any other part of the Israeli government cares that a dozen or so Arabs just lost their only source of income, and the settlers are most definitely being offered government subsidized relocation that the American taxpayer footed the bill for. If Israel stands for what it says it does, why did it not offer citizenship to the Arabs it took on in 1967?
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.


then they shouldn't have started a fight they lost...on multiple occasions.
 

mrSHEiK124

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I can trace actual ownership of our land back six generations, starting with my grandfather, but I digress, my apologies.

My point is JS80 thinks some 4 million people either don't exist or have absolutely no right to the land they live on. :thumbsdown:
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.

then they shouldn't have started a fight they lost...on multiple occasions.

Nobody in my village started anything. The entire thing was forcibly vacated by Har'el's Fourth Battalion as a part of Operation Dani on July 18th, 1948. And then it was demolished to build a settlement in 1949. And in 1967 none of them were afforded any of the rights offered to Israel's Jewish citizens. Assbackwards by any humanitarian or logical measure. Forget claims to land or anything else, it is purely racism.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.

you don't see korea asking china back for manchuria do you?
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.

then they shouldn't have started a fight they lost...on multiple occasions.

Nobody in my village started anything. The entire thing was forcibly vacated by Har'el's Fourth Battalion as a part of Operation Dani on July 18th, 1948. And then it was demolished to build a settlement in 1949. And in 1967 none of them were afforded any of the rights offered to Israel's Jewish citizens. Assbackwards by any humanitarian or logical measure. Forget claims to land or anything else, it is purely racism.

sounds like you lost a war. blame your arab "brethren" for losing.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.

then they shouldn't have started a fight they lost...on multiple occasions.

Nobody in my village started anything. The entire thing was forcibly vacated by Har'el's Fourth Battalion as a part of Operation Dani on July 18th, 1948. And then it was demolished to build a settlement in 1949. And in 1967 none of them were afforded any of the rights offered to Israel's Jewish citizens. Assbackwards by any humanitarian or logical measure. Forget claims to land or anything else, it is purely racism.

sounds like you lost a war. blame your arab "brethren" for losing.

Yes, they lost the war. Someone please call me when we start debating who won or lost in 1948 or 1967. That's not what I'm talking about, and it's all Zionists can talk about. Israel took on a substantial amount of Arab people with its territorial gains in 1967 and to this day treats as them as second class citizens. There is no justification for that, there would be no problem if they were free as their Jewish counterparts are.

But that threatens the essence of the "Jewish" state, the racist essence. The Arabs are Israel and the Jewish people's problem, the source of all their troubles, they must be cleansed, and they must be forced to leave (seriously, listen to yourself). Sounds familiar, try reading Mein Kampf, you seem to have forgotten that it was the same brand of thinking that caused the Holocaust. Destruction of the weak and sick, "there is no Jewish race," so on, so forth. The persecuted have become the persecutors.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.

then they shouldn't have started a fight they lost...on multiple occasions.

Nobody in my village started anything. The entire thing was forcibly vacated by Har'el's Fourth Battalion as a part of Operation Dani on July 18th, 1948. And then it was demolished to build a settlement in 1949. And in 1967 none of them were afforded any of the rights offered to Israel's Jewish citizens. Assbackwards by any humanitarian or logical measure. Forget claims to land or anything else, it is purely racism.

sounds like you lost a war. blame your arab "brethren" for losing.

Yes, they lost the war. Someone please call me when we start debating who won or lost in 1948 or 1967. That's not what I'm talking about, and it's all Zionists can talk about. Israel took on a substantial amount of Arab people with its territorial gains in 1967 and to this day treats as them as second class citizens. There is no justification for that, there would be no problem if they were free as their Jewish counterparts are.

But that threatens the essence of the "Jewish" state, the racist essence. The Arabs are Israel and the Jewish people's problem, the source of all their troubles, they must be cleansed, and they must be forced to leave (seriously, listen to yourself). Sounds familiar, try reading Mein Kampf, you seem to have forgotten that it was the same brand of thinking that caused the Holocaust. Destruction of the weak and sick, "there is no Jewish race," so on, so forth. The persecuted have become the persecutors.

Right..turn it around on Israel.

When a group wants to destroy the Jewish state of Israel, and thinks they have no right to exist, and fights a war and to this day launches terrorist attacks to that end, retaliation is only natural.

I see the obvious agenda you are pushing.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Right..turn it around on Israel.

When a group wants to destroy the Jewish state of Israel, and thinks they have no right to exist, and fights a war and to this day launches terrorist attacks to that end, retaliation is only natural.

I see the obvious agenda you are pushing.

I'm turning it around because all your arguments are set up so that they can be so, so easily turned around. When a group has been persecuted by the Jewish state of Israel for 42 years, and is given no right to exist, and longs for their freedom, retaliation is only natural.

See?
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: JS80
you don't see korea asking china back for manchuria do you?
No, I don't. It's also worth adding that Manchus currently hold Russian or Chinese citizenships depending on which part of Manchuria they live in, and haven't been under military occupation for half a century.

I'll go one step ahead of you in your Israeli Press Ministry playbook and also point out that Qassams fired from Gaza into Ashkelon have absolutely nothing to do with rockets fired from Tijuana into California. Tijuanans are Mexicans and Californians are Americans. Ashkelonim are Israelis and Gazans are...nothing?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: lupi

I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

They're already on their own land. These Israelis are fucking terrorist turds. You're just a freaking tool. :thumbsdown: :|
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: lupi

I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

They're already on their own land. These Israelis are fucking terrorist turds. You're just a freaking tool. :thumbsdown: :|

speaking from experience again I take it.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: lupi
I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

And leave their land? Why?

they are arabs. it's not their land. there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." lower case palestinians is what is used to describe arabs living in ISRAEL.

It is their land. The only Israeli claim to the land is in the Torah, and the only way they've gone about their claim to the land violates too many tenets of Jewish law to count. Murder, pillaging, rape, theft, you want more?

My village had a population (earliest available recorded) of 94 people in 1596. That's 400 years of it being "their land," and the village had existed since Canaanite times. In 1948 100% of the 4,964 dunums were owned by Palestinian Arabs. That is their land, I don't have a fairy tale telling me to go back some day, I have a DEED and the key to a house long demolished.

then they shouldn't have started a fight they lost...on multiple occasions.

Nobody in my village started anything. The entire thing was forcibly vacated by Har'el's Fourth Battalion as a part of Operation Dani on July 18th, 1948. And then it was demolished to build a settlement in 1949. And in 1967 none of them were afforded any of the rights offered to Israel's Jewish citizens. Assbackwards by any humanitarian or logical measure. Forget claims to land or anything else, it is purely racism.



there's a whole lot of german families that no longer own there property for nothing they did.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: lupi

I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

They're already on their own land. These Israelis are fucking terrorist turds. You're just a freaking tool. :thumbsdown: :|

speaking from experience again I take it.

Absolutely! I've had more than enough experience with YOUR posts to know you're full of shit.

there's a whole lot of german families that no longer own there property for nothing they did.

I give you Exhibit A. Thanks for proving the point. :thumbsup:
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: lupi
there's a whole lot of german families that no longer own there property for nothing they did.

You guys really don't hear yourselves talking, do you? Two wrongs don't make a right! What the hell ever happened to "Never Again," is that exclusive to the Jewish people as well?
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: lupi
there's a whole lot of german families that no longer own there property for nothing they did.

You guys really don't hear yourselves talking, do you? Two wrongs don't make a right! What the hell ever happened to "Never Again," is that exclusive to the Jewish people as well?

let this be a lesson, you lose at war means you really lose.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: lupi

I fully endorse all palenstinians moving to arab lands.

They're already on their own land. These Israelis are fucking terrorist turds. You're just a freaking tool. :thumbsdown: :|

speaking from experience again I take it.

Absolutely! I've had more than enough experience with YOUR posts to know you're full of shit.

there's a whole lot of german families that no longer own there property for nothing they did.

I give you Exhibit A. Thanks for proving the point. :thumbsup:

you're so full of your delusions of grandeur it's just sad. I'm sure those fucking Israelis terrorist turds in munich are glad for your concern.