Israel / Gaza Thread

[kylebisme]

Every last one of the last one of the arguments you listed there I have responded to in this very thread. You are just tpo damn brainwashed to comprehend me, and continue to spout mischaracterizations and outright lies to defend Israel's ongoing conquest over what little of Palestine is left instead.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Every last one of the last one of the arguments you listed there I have responded to in this very thread. You are just tpo damn brainwashed to comprehend me, and continue to spout mischaracterizations and outright lies to defend Israel's ongoing conquest over what little of Palestine is left instead.

One question begs to be asked.....

Throwing aside all the BS and such.....
If rockets were to cease being fired at Israel by all parties, including little cell groups that Hamas has no control over......what do you think would happen?

My feeling is that Israel just wants to be left alone...

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Every last one of the last one of the arguments you listed there I have responded to in this very thread. You are just tpo damn brainwashed to comprehend me, and continue to spout mischaracterizations and outright lies to defend Israel's ongoing conquest over what little of Palestine is left instead.

Why would one even need to bother defending Israel's actions, when virtually every border on every map that has ever existed was drawn by the same type of action that Israel is taking? Historically, it's not a new game...

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Every last one of the last one of the arguments you listed there I have responded to in this very thread.

oh really? I dont see a response to the post I made about the quotes and the muslim population percentage.

the only post I see by you on that page was a day later at 8pm where mine was a day earlier posted at almost 10

secondly, you never gave an answer as to why the entire arab population of the middle east teaches their children to hate jews over a small piece of land instead of you arguing that the land mass is bigger, smaller, 2 times or whatever size compared to the US. thats not answering it, thats evading the main question.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Every last one of the last one of the arguments you listed there I have responded to in this very thread. You are just tpo damn brainwashed to comprehend me, and continue to spout mischaracterizations and outright lies to defend Israel's ongoing conquest over what little of Palestine is left instead.

One question begs to be asked.....

Throwing aside all the BS and such.....
If rockets were to cease being fired at Israel by all parties, including little cell groups that Hamas has no control over......what do you think would happen?

My feeling is that Israel just wants to be left alone...

actually if this happened, Israel would open up the borders and be less strict on border patrol, kinda like in the west bank today where Israel allows thousands past the border into israel to work, IN PEACE

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
One question begs to be asked.....

Throwing aside all the BS and such.....
If rockets were to cease being fired at Israel by all parties, including little cell groups that Hamas has no control over......what do you think would happen?

My feeling is that Israel just wants to be left alone...

Your feeling is in direct denial of the fact that Israel doesn't want to leave Palestine alone, and hasn't shown any interest in doing so since this conquest started.

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Why would one even need to bother defending Israel's actions, when virtually every border on every map that has ever existed was drawn by the same type of action that Israel is taking? Historically, it's not a new game...

Because "might makes right" heathens such as yourself are only a small minority in this world.

Such law of the jungle mentality doesn't have popular support, and even most Americans and Israelis are only tricked into supporting such barbarism though deceptions created to blame onto the victim.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Every last one of the last one of the arguments you listed there I have responded to in this very thread.

oh really? I dont see a response to the post I made about the quotes and the muslim population percentage.

the only post I see by you on that page was a day later at 8pm where mine was a day earlier posted at almost 10

Really, but you have too weak of grasp on reality to understand what that means.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Every last one of the last one of the arguments you listed there I have responded to in this very thread.

oh really? I dont see a response to the post I made about the quotes and the muslim population percentage.

the only post I see by you on that page was a day later at 8pm where mine was a day earlier posted at almost 10

Really, but you have too weak of grasp on reality to understand what that means.

I understand that you are evading it because it is something that proves your position as weaker.

 

[kylebisme]

You can't even understand the difference between twice as large and 30% larger, you moron.

 

[Freshgeardude]

you are still arguing that? my point before was that you were giving conflicting information.


WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT SIZE IT IS AT THIS POINT

CONFLICTING INFORMATION is what I am proving

 

[kylebisme]

I didn't give conflicting information, you just apparently don't realize 1.3 time as large and 30% larger mean the same thing.

And yes, your inability to grasp such simple reality demonstrates the futility of trying to have a relational conversation with you.

 

[Freshgeardude]

here, Ill even post numbers.

12.9 million square kilometers (5 million square miles) <-- arab world

9,826,630 sq km 3,794,066 sq mi <-- US

OK ITS NOT DOUBLE. its not less than like you said at first, nor 20% which you suggested after.

its around 43% ish percent larger than the US

 

[Freshgeardude]

oh snowman?

I wrote

you honestly think that Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Iran, among others are really trying to completely destroy Israel for a small ass peice of land? where their land is over twice the size of the US? The arab nations are 640 times larger than Israel

you wrote..

Arab land isn't even the size of the US, let alone twice. I'd ask you to check a map, but I get the impression you aren't cappable of reading one anyway.

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Better yet, you could total up the total actual figures of the held by Arab nations and compare that to the land held by the US, to see how absurd your claim is.

The Arab nations don't even come close to doubling the sides of the US, but rather only about 30% larger

and now

I didn't give conflicting information, you just apparently don't realize 1.3 time as large and 30% larger mean the same thing. And yes, your inability to grasp such simple reality demonstrates the futility of trying to have a relational conversation with you.

you see. you contradict your own information and you try to insult me by saying I cant understand any of it.


I think it is you who cant comprehend this conflict.

 

[kylebisme]

I just didn't bother to dispute your mixing of Arab with Berber, and hence my original "not as large" claim didn't include Algeria or Morocco, but I included them to get 30% larger after you presented the map which counted them as Arab.

Regardless, your insistence to stand by your "twice as large" argument in spite of my suggestions that you do the math was a flagrant display of your contempt for reality.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
here, Ill even post numbers.

12.9 million square kilometers (5 million square miles) <-- arab world

9,826,630 sq km 3,794,066 sq mi <-- US

OK ITS NOT DOUBLE. its not less than like you said at first, nor 20% which you suggested after.

its around 43% ish percent larger than the US

didn't you and your infinite fucking SUPERIORITY post earlier that it was 2x bigger?

 

[kylebisme]

And his 43% is still too big, and he now claims I suggested 20%, while I've been stating around 30% what the numbers he posted comes out to.

So yeah, obvious lost cause. On the flip side, here is message from an Israeli woman who shows great hope for the future of Israel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcGm-gxmxHw

 

[dahunan]

I am very sorry for being so emotional.. in these threads but their focus is to lie and make others look bad by calling them anti-semites and jew haters and all that shit... I just hate it.. I really do... they also act like they never did anything wrong and are ALWAYS the innocent defender

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am very sorry for being so emotional.. in these threads but their focus is to lie and make others look bad by calling them anti-semites and jew haters and all that shit... I just hate it.. I really do... they also act like they never did anything wrong and are ALWAYS the innocent defender

Arent you the one that had like 8/10 threads locked for trolling before they consolidated?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am very sorry for being so emotional.. in these threads but their focus is to lie and make others look bad by calling them anti-semites and jew haters and all that shit... I just hate it.. I really do... they also act like they never did anything wrong and are ALWAYS the innocent defender

Arent you the one that had like 8/10 threads locked for trolling before they consolidated?

Got a problem with it?? Take it to the mods boy

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am very sorry for being so emotional.. in these threads but their focus is to lie and make others look bad by calling them anti-semites and jew haters and all that shit... I just hate it.. I really do... they also act like they never did anything wrong and are ALWAYS the innocent defender

Arent you the one that had like 8/10 threads locked for trolling before they consolidated?

Aren't you the one that has had zero useful threads?

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Why would one even need to bother defending Israel's actions, when virtually every border on every map that has ever existed was drawn by the same type of action that Israel is taking? Historically, it's not a new game...

Because "might makes right" heathens such as yourself are only a small minority in this world.

Such law of the jungle mentality doesn't have popular support, and even most Americans and Israelis are only tricked into supporting such barbarism though deceptions created to blame onto the victim.

Wrong. YOU don't support "might makes right".

There is NOTHING you can point to historically that pacifism works. You can spend your entire life flapping your lips, expressing your mock outrage, but your life will be wasted. Leave the words behind, and pick up a real weapon, and FIGHT for what you believe in, and then you will see what popular support really is. History has taught the Jewish people this lesson. In the end, might will make right, with history giving or denying them a victory. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am very sorry for being so emotional.. in these threads but their focus is to lie and make others look bad by calling them anti-semites and jew haters and all that shit... I just hate it.. I really do... they also act like they never did anything wrong and are ALWAYS the innocent defender

Are you not the one who said you would be ready to fire up the ovens?

Yep, I think anti-semite and terrorist sympathizer fits you perfectly.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am very sorry for being so emotional.. in these threads but their focus is to lie and make others look bad by calling them anti-semites and jew haters and all that shit... I just hate it.. I really do... they also act like they never did anything wrong and are ALWAYS the innocent defender

Are you not the one who said you would be ready to fire up the ovens?

Yep, I think anti-semite and terrorist sympathizer fits you perfectly.

he probably is either middle eastern or follows Islam or both

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Wrong. YOU don't support "might makes right".

There is NOTHING you can point to historically that pacifism works. You can spend your entire life flapping your lips, expressing your mock outrage, but your life will be wasted. Leave the words behind, and pick up a real weapon, and FIGHT for what you believe in, and then you will see what popular support really is. History has taught the Jewish people this lesson. In the end, might will make right, with history giving or denying them a victory. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

I don't support savagery, but I am no pacifist either. Rather simply I am a man who respects justice, like the vast majority of the world. Though I can see how it would be hard for a satanic fucker likely yourself to grasp that.

Anyway, here is another video from some more noble Israelis working to end this insanity, along with a quote from one of them:

http://www.normanfinkelstein.c...icle.php?pg=11&ar=2591

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Wrong. YOU don't support "might makes right".

There is NOTHING you can point to historically that pacifism works. You can spend your entire life flapping your lips, expressing your mock outrage, but your life will be wasted. Leave the words behind, and pick up a real weapon, and FIGHT for what you believe in, and then you will see what popular support really is. History has taught the Jewish people this lesson. In the end, might will make right, with history giving or denying them a victory. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

I don't support savagery, but I am no pacifist either. Rather simply I am a man who respects justice, like the vast majority of the world. Though I can see how it would be hard for a satanic fucker likely yourself to grasp that.

Anyway, here is another video from some more noble Israelis working to end this insanity, along with a quote from one of them:

http://www.normanfinkelstein.c...icle.php?pg=11&ar=2591

Funny, your idea of justice (Hamas using civilians as human shields is a-ok because Israel took land) is different than most peoples ideas of justice (using human shields is not ok, under any circumstance).