Israel / Gaza Thread

[Skyclad1uhm1]

The Israeli marine stopped a ship from that terrorist loving nation the US loaded with food and medicine (which can clearly be used to make missiles) from reaching Gaza.

In other news, food and medicine is running out fast in Gaza.

But, as long as Hamas continues to not kill anyone with crappy, very shortrange, homemade missiles everyone here will support the Final Solution Israel is trying to accomplish.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: jpeyton
The US also has the death penalty for treason.

The last American executed for "Treason" was in 1859 -- John Brown -- and that was actually done by the Commonwealth of Virginia, not the Federal Government. The last executions for the related crime of espionage were Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in 1953. That's a grand total of three treason-related executions in the last 150 years. I'd love to see your reaction to the U.S. summarily executing five unarmed civilians, some wounded, without trial, in the 21st century... that would be a hoot!

That said, the OP needs more reliable sources before I'll buy into it.

Ethan Bronner and Taghreed el-Khodary are the authors of this story and are very middle of the road if not leaning in the direction of Palestinian sympathizers with there articles over the years. They would not make something up that would take away from there cause.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
The Israeli marine stopped a ship from that terrorist loving nation the US loaded with food and medicine (which can clearly be used to make missiles) from reaching Gaza.

In other news, food and medicine is running out fast in Gaza.

But, as long as Hamas continues to not kill anyone with crappy, very shortrange, homemade missiles everyone here will support the Final Solution Israel is trying to accomplish.

You are ok with the people of Israel having to constantly live under fear of death? Why did you decide you would rather people from Israel die than people from Palestine?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
The Israeli marine stopped a ship from that terrorist loving nation the US loaded with food and medicine (which can clearly be used to make missiles) from reaching Gaza.

In other news, food and medicine is running out fast in Gaza.

But, as long as Hamas continues to not kill anyone with crappy, very shortrange, homemade missiles everyone here will support the Final Solution Israel is trying to accomplish.

Has there been deaths from the al quassam rockets?

Yes or no will do just fine.

Of course, if Germany fired hundreds of rockets into the Netherlands, you'd think that was a-ok, right? You wouldn't want your country to STOP them from firing hundreds of rockets at you, now would you? Of course not... right?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
But, as long as Hamas continues to not kill anyone with crappy, very shortrange, homemade missiles everyone here will support the Final Solution Israel is trying to accomplish.

I didn't realize that the use of shoddy weapons somehow makes their continuous attacks against Israel's civilian population acceptable... interesting.

 

[JSt0rm]

how many deaths have their been from these rockets say from 1995 till today?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
how many deaths have their been from these rockets say from 1995 till today?

I don't have the answer, so I'll let someone else take a stab at that... but would you mind telling us why that figure is important to you?

 

[JSt0rm]

never mind I looked it up myself. These rocket attacks started in 2001 and have killed 23 people.

Let me revise 433 wounded as well and 8 of those deaths are from mortars not rockets.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
how many deaths have their been from these rockets say from 1995 till today?

I don't have the answer, so I'll let someone else take a stab at that... but would you mind telling us why that figure is important to you?

I'm just curious.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
The Israeli marine stopped a ship from that terrorist loving nation the US loaded with food and medicine (which can clearly be used to make missiles) from reaching Gaza.

In other news, food and medicine is running out fast in Gaza.

But, as long as Hamas continues to not kill anyone with crappy, very shortrange, homemade missiles everyone here will support the Final Solution Israel is trying to accomplish.

You are ok with the people of Israel having to constantly live under fear of death? Why did you decide you would rather people from Israel die than people from Palestine?

The extremists on both sides deserve to be shot. However, Israel is killing far more people in the past few days than the Palestinians have killed alltogether in the past few years, so I see them as the more evil of the two at the moment. Especially because they break all humanitarian rules by denying them basic needs like food, water and medical help.

If you think that living under threat is reason enough for killing so many more people, including loads of innocents, would you think it is a totally valid response from Al Qaida to being hunted down if they'd let off a nuke in a major US city, killing millions? After all, they live under threat all the time, so killing innocents is a good way to show your moral superiority right?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
But, as long as Hamas continues to not kill anyone with crappy, very shortrange, homemade missiles everyone here will support the Final Solution Israel is trying to accomplish.

I didn't realize that the use of shoddy weapons somehow makes their continuous attacks against Israel's civilian population acceptable... interesting.

It doesn't, however the relative lethality of the attacks most certainly alters the appropriate response. The rational reaction to me throwing a rock through your window is much different than if it was a hand grenade.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
never mind I looked it up myself. These rocket attacks started in 2001 and have killed 23 people.

Let me revise 433 wounded as well and 8 of those deaths are from mortars not rockets.

From the CFR:

What attacks is Hamas responsible for?

Hamas is believed to have killed more than five hundred people in more than 350 separate terrorist attacks since 1993. Not all Hamas's attacks have been carried out by suicide bombers. The group has also accepted responsibility for assaults using mortars, short-range rockets, and small arms fire.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It doesn't, however the relative lethality of the attacks most certainly alters the appropriate response. The rational reaction to me throwing a rock through your window is much different than if it was a hand grenade.

I guess Isreal is just going to go in there and fuck them all up until they won't want to use rockets? How are they getting this shit? I thought Israel turned the whole place into some giant ghetto/concentration camp thing.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: palehorse
From the CFR:

What attacks is Hamas responsible for?

Hamas is believed to have killed more than five hundred people in more than 350 separate terrorist attacks since 1993. Not all Hamas's attacks have been carried out by suicide bombers. The group has also accepted responsibility for assaults using mortars, short-range rockets, and small arms fire.

Sorry if i wasn't clear i was just looking at rocket and apparently mortar attacks. I thought the suicide bombings stopped because of the ghetto fences? Yes? I could be wrong.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
The US also has the death penalty for treason.

Jesus christ you could compare this to the death penalty? I shouldnt be surprised.


Hey, but in less than a month, it will be your poster-boy who puts people to death. Maybe it will sit better with you then.

The first Iraqi/Afghan/beloved patriot civilian that dies at the end of January is on Obama's hands. I hope you are ready to accept this from the man you campaigned for.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
The Israeli marine stopped a ship from that terrorist loving nation the US loaded with food and medicine (which can clearly be used to make missiles) from reaching Gaza.

In other news, food and medicine is running out fast in Gaza.

But, as long as Hamas continues to not kill anyone with crappy, very shortrange, homemade missiles everyone here will support the Final Solution Israel is trying to accomplish.

Has there been deaths from the al quassam rockets?

Yes or no will do just fine.

Of course, if Germany fired hundreds of rockets into the Netherlands, you'd think that was a-ok, right? You wouldn't want your country to STOP them from firing hundreds of rockets at you, now would you? Of course not... right?

Let's say China and Russia managed to destroy the US' military capacity, destroy the infrastructure, it's food supply, energy sources and power plants, and any source of clean water. After that it would push most of the surviving US citizens into small infertile pieces of land, deny them any medical supplies or other primary needs, and would require people to wait for hours in rows if they ever wanted to leave their prison to visit someone else.

According to you anything those US citizens would then do against their suppressors would give those invaders a totally valid reason to kill people at random?

Not that those people will live long without clean water or food...

Israel wanted democratic elections in Gaza, and when they did not like the outcome they turned it into a prison camp (well, a worse one anyway, it already was pretty much one).

The Israelis are allowed to defend themselves, but the Palestinians have to sit back and die, right? I'm starting to think that the governments of China and Iran actually care more about human rights than the average US citizen...

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: jpeyton
The US also has the death penalty for treason.

Jesus christ you could compare this to the death penalty? I shouldnt be surprised.


Hey, but in less than a month, it will be your poster-boy who puts people to death. Maybe it will sit better with you then.

Well I think that if our country was under the same duress as Palestine then we would probably be killing traitors like this. I think thats the point but this could happen anywhere there is no law right? I mean these could just be fanatics ready to kill anybody and they just do it. A lynching so to speak. We have had a lot of those.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It doesn't, however the relative lethality of the attacks most certainly alters the appropriate response. The rational reaction to me throwing a rock through your window is much different than if it was a hand grenade.

I guess Isreal is just going to go in there and fuck them all up until they won't want to use rockets? How are they getting this shit? I thought Israel turned the whole place into some giant ghetto/concentration camp thing.

Pretty much so. But even in the Nazi camps people once in a while managed to smuggle stuff in or even escape. And this deathcamp is far larger than the average Nazi camp, meaning that there is a larger border along which they can try to get through.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Israel wanted democratic elections in Gaza, and when they did not like the outcome they turned it into a prison camp (well, a worse one anyway, it already was pretty much one).

No no lets give credit where its due. Little boy Bush wanted elections in Gaza lol. He should have "fail" tattooed to his forehead

Ohh and I loved rtcw 🙂

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It doesn't, however the relative lethality of the attacks most certainly alters the appropriate response. The rational reaction to me throwing a rock through your window is much different than if it was a hand grenade.

I guess Isreal is just going to go in there and fuck them all up until they won't want to use rockets? How are they getting this shit? I thought Israel turned the whole place into some giant ghetto/concentration camp thing.

Pretty much so. But even in the Nazi camps people once in a while managed to smuggle stuff in or even escape. And this deathcamp is far larger than the average Nazi camp, meaning that there is a larger border along which they can try to get through.

At this point, Israel needs to seperate the women/children/peaceful men from Jihadis. Anyone with more than 1 AK in the house needs to be arrested and put on trial, or shot to shit if they fight back.

It is time to put an end to militant Islam, and this is one of the battlegrounds.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
At this point, Israel needs to seperate the women/children/peaceful men from Jihadis. Anyone with more than 1 AK in the house needs to be arrested and put on trial, or shot to shit if they fight back.

It is time to put an end to militant Islam, and this is one of the battlegrounds.

You can't separate them. You can't tell who is bad and who is good. I'm telling you i only see this going one way with force and thats a final solution scenario. Right or wrong this is it.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It doesn't, however the relative lethality of the attacks most certainly alters the appropriate response. The rational reaction to me throwing a rock through your window is much different than if it was a hand grenade.

I guess Isreal is just going to go in there and fuck them all up until they won't want to use rockets? How are they getting this shit? I thought Israel turned the whole place into some giant ghetto/concentration camp thing.

Pretty much so. But even in the Nazi camps people once in a while managed to smuggle stuff in or even escape. And this deathcamp is far larger than the average Nazi camp, meaning that there is a larger border along which they can try to get through.

At this point, Israel needs to seperate the women/children/peaceful men from Jihadis. Anyone with more than 1 AK in the house needs to be arrested and put on trial, or shot to shit if they fight back.

It is time to put an end to militant Islam, and this is one of the battlegrounds.

Unfortunately the militant Israelis are pretty much identical in extremism.
It's basically a Jewish version of Hamas vs an Islamic version, with the innocent part of the population caught in between.

The Israelis have precision weapons but 'accidently' hit schools and hospitals, then claiming an extremist may have been in there too. Hamas fires back at any Israeli in sight.

Shortly before Israeli elections the government just wants to gather support from the extremists, so they are not likely to stop killing at random. Even if they would manage to kill every extremist this would not be visible as most are ordinary people, so they'd just go on killing ordinary people anyway (at least until after the elections).

And any peace talk Hamas was willing to participate in in the past is out the door after this anyway, as they want revenge.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It doesn't, however the relative lethality of the attacks most certainly alters the appropriate response. The rational reaction to me throwing a rock through your window is much different than if it was a hand grenade.

I guess Isreal is just going to go in there and fuck them all up until they won't want to use rockets? How are they getting this shit? I thought Israel turned the whole place into some giant ghetto/concentration camp thing.

if I shoot at you 200 times, nothing hits you except a shot that grazed your arm, is it still ok that I missed you 199 times?

 

[Freshgeardude]

besides, why wouldnt NY times be reliable enough? like honestly, some people like to deny facts even if its put in front of their face

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It doesn't, however the relative lethality of the attacks most certainly alters the appropriate response. The rational reaction to me throwing a rock through your window is much different than if it was a hand grenade.

I guess Isreal is just going to go in there and fuck them all up until they won't want to use rockets? How are they getting this shit? I thought Israel turned the whole place into some giant ghetto/concentration camp thing.

if I shoot at you 200 times, nothing hits you except a shot that grazed your arm, is it still ok that I missed you 199 times?

I never said it was. Plus the psychological effects.