Israel Bombing footage

gevorg

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IDF (Israel Defense Forces)? I guess all the war crimes have been censored.
 

fallout man

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No thanks. I still have to get through this stack of 'Faces of Death' VHS tapes, so no time.

Thanks for the link, though, you bloodthirsty troglodite. :) :) :)
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
How nice, attrocities documented.

Actually, the videos of Palestinians purposely blowing up women and children are on a different site.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
How nice, attrocities documented.

Actually, the videos of Palestinians purposely blowing up women and children are on a different site.
How is that an atrocity?

They call it 'collateral damage' when we bomb women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 

PokerGuy

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
How nice, attrocities documented.

Actually, the videos of Palestinians purposely blowing up women and children are on a different site.
How is that an atrocity?

They call it 'collateral damage' when we bomb women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan.

For once, I have to agree with jpayton. IDF bombs and planes killing innocents is no different than terrorists killing innocents. It's all the same, they just use better equipment and technology.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
How nice, attrocities documented.

Actually, the videos of Palestinians purposely blowing up women and children are on a different site.
How is that an atrocity?

They call it 'collateral damage' when we bomb women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan.

For once, I have to agree with jpayton. IDF bombs and planes killing innocents is no different than terrorists killing innocents. It's all the same, they just use better equipment and technology.

Except if Israel wanted to kill civilians they would be able to do it more efficiently than they are now. WW2 showed what happened when armies purposefully targeted civilians, incase you forgot to take basic history.

When Hamas starts attacking military installations than you can compare them.
 

magreen

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Wow jpeyton and pokerguy, you really show yourselves to be incapable of grasping basic moral issues. Such as, the obvious fundamental difference between:
1) purposely targeting non-combatants to terrorize them, which is what Hamas routinely does ad infinitum, and
2) targeting people while they are actively acting to kill your civilians, and accidentally hitting non-combatants in the process.

The latter category is what Israel does, almost completely without exception. In addition, Hamas often purposely and cynically places their rockets and weapons in close proximity to civilian populations to use civilians as human shields, an explicit war crime according to international law, knowing that Israel will do its utmost to follow international law and morals which Hamas has no qualms flaunting.

It's incredible to me that you can't intuitively grasp this. It makes me think you must be blinded by something... hatred? Self-loathing? Guilt? I don't know, but it's something.
 

jpeyton

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It's pointless to argue Israel's merits for bombing.

Unless they nuke Gaza into oblivion, they might as well be dropping candy from their warplanes. Conventional bombs are like seeds; you might kill a few Hamas militants, but a new one will always sprout up to replace them.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
It's pointless to argue Israel's merits for bombing.

Unless they nuke Gaza into oblivion, they might as well be dropping candy from their warplanes. Conventional bombs are like seeds; you might kill a few Hamas militants, but a new one will always sprout up to replace them.

So how do you suggest they stop the terrorist from shooting rockets at them and blowing themselves up to kill civilians?
 

SoundTheSurrender

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jpeyton
It's pointless to argue Israel's merits for bombing.

Unless they nuke Gaza into oblivion, they might as well be dropping candy from their warplanes. Conventional bombs are like seeds; you might kill a few Hamas militants, but a new one will always sprout up to replace them.

So how do you suggest they stop the terrorist from shooting rockets at them and blowing themselves up to kill civilians?

Dismantling Israel and giving the land back to the people who original lived there would be a good start.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jpeyton
It's pointless to argue Israel's merits for bombing.

Unless they nuke Gaza into oblivion, they might as well be dropping candy from their warplanes. Conventional bombs are like seeds; you might kill a few Hamas militants, but a new one will always sprout up to replace them.

So how do you suggest they stop the terrorist from shooting rockets at them and blowing themselves up to kill civilians?

Dismantling Israel and giving the land back to the people who original lived there would be a good start.

:roll: Have any RATIONAL ideas?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jpeyton
It's pointless to argue Israel's merits for bombing.

Unless they nuke Gaza into oblivion, they might as well be dropping candy from their warplanes. Conventional bombs are like seeds; you might kill a few Hamas militants, but a new one will always sprout up to replace them.

So how do you suggest they stop the terrorist from shooting rockets at them and blowing themselves up to kill civilians?

Dismantling Israel and giving the land back to the people who original lived there would be a good start.

:roll: Have any RATIONAL ideas?
More rational than trading high explosives for another half-century?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jpeyton
It's pointless to argue Israel's merits for bombing.

Unless they nuke Gaza into oblivion, they might as well be dropping candy from their warplanes. Conventional bombs are like seeds; you might kill a few Hamas militants, but a new one will always sprout up to replace them.

So how do you suggest they stop the terrorist from shooting rockets at them and blowing themselves up to kill civilians?

Dismantling Israel and giving the land back to the people who original lived there would be a good start.

:roll: Have any RATIONAL ideas?
More rational than trading high explosives for another half-century?

So you think it's rational for Isreal to just up and move so they don't get attacked by terrorists? Buying stock in white flags?
 

magreen

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Originally lived there? LOL. SoundTheSurrender, you are so misinformed it should be embarassing, except you've got other deluded people like jpeyton to keep you blissful in your ignorance.

Who originally lived there?

Let's see... 3,500 yrs ago it was Abraham, a Jew.

2,000-3,000 yrs ago it was the kingdom of Israelites, including both Temples which stood in Jerusalem.

Since then, for 2,000 years, there has been uninterrupted Jewish settlement in the land of Israel.

Arabs, by contrast, wandered in and out of the land they like to call Palestine, never establishing a significant settlement until Jews came in large numbers and developed it in the 19th century. The term "Palestinian" is a fictional term created by Arafat and the PLO as a propoganda tool in the '60s to dupe people like you into thinking they're the original people there. They're no different than the other tribes of Arabs, they just hapened to be inside the borders of what the British decided to call Palestine. They have a massive propoganda war to claim they're the original people, including destroying any archeological evidence of the Israelite period or any Jewish artifacts from the temple mount they can get their hands on (look up the Wakf), just to name one small example.

You are just helping spread one big lie, and it's time you attempted to open your eyes.
 

dahunan

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I don't care what you call it

Kill one of my family and label it collateral damage... you will not be able to erase the crosshairs put on your skull or YOUR FAMILIES either

DOH.. think about it

some of the first lines IN DA BUYBULL .. say

BEGET
BEGET
BEGET

Dumb assholes and your "MIGHT EQUAL RIGHT" .. you fuckup the WHOLE WORLD
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: magreen
Originally lived there? LOL. SoundTheSurrender, you are so misinformed it should be embarassing, except you've got other deluded people like jpeyton to keep you blissful in your ignorance.

Who originally lived there?

Let's see... 3,500 yrs ago it was Abraham, a Jew.

2,000-3,000 yrs ago it was the kingdom of Israelites, including both Temples which stood in Jerusalem.

Since then, for 2,000 years, there has been uninterrupted Jewish settlement in the land of Israel.

Arabs, by contrast, wandered in and out of the land they like to call Palestine, never establishing a significant settlement until Jews came in large numbers and developed it in the 19th century. The term "Palestinian" is a fictional term created by Arafat and the PLO as a propoganda tool in the '60s to dupe people like you into thinking they're the original people there. They're no different than the other tribes of Arabs, they just hapened to be inside the borders of what the British decided to call Palestine. They have a massive propoganda war to claim they're the original people, including destroying any archeological evidence of the Israelite period or any Jewish artifacts from the temple mount they can get their hands on (look up the Wakf), just to name one small example.

You are just helping spread one big lie, and it's time you attempted to open your eyes.


WHO THE FUCK CARES WHO LIVED THERE

^^^ DUMBEST ARGUMENT EVER
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jpeyton
It's pointless to argue Israel's merits for bombing.

Unless they nuke Gaza into oblivion, they might as well be dropping candy from their warplanes. Conventional bombs are like seeds; you might kill a few Hamas militants, but a new one will always sprout up to replace them.

So how do you suggest they stop the terrorist from shooting rockets at them and blowing themselves up to kill civilians?

Dismantling Israel and giving the land back to the people who original lived there would be a good start.

:roll: Have any RATIONAL ideas?
More rational than trading high explosives for another half-century?

So you think it's rational for Isreal to just up and move so they don't get attacked by terrorists? Buying stock in white flags?

Lookup how Israelis/Zionists plotted and planned to murder and terrorize palestinians before they ever got the land.. Did some Jewish Terrorists murder UN peacekeepers as soon as they got there in the beginning of Israels creation.. look it up

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: magreen
Wow jpeyton and pokerguy, you really show yourselves to be incapable of grasping basic moral issues. Such as, the obvious fundamental difference between:
1) purposely targeting non-combatants to terrorize them, which is what Hamas routinely does ad infinitum, and
2) targeting people while they are actively acting to kill your civilians, and accidentally hitting non-combatants in the process.

The latter category is what Israel does, almost completely without exception. In addition, Hamas often purposely and cynically places their rockets and weapons in close proximity to civilian populations to use civilians as human shields, an explicit war crime according to international law, knowing that Israel will do its utmost to follow international law and morals which Hamas has no qualms flaunting.

It's incredible to me that you can't intuitively grasp this. It makes me think you must be blinded by something... hatred? Self-loathing? Guilt? I don't know, but it's something.

What is incredible is that you and your bloodthirsty dna (we all have it.. just some control it better) sit and try to intellectualize murder
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: magreen
Wow jpeyton and pokerguy, you really show yourselves to be incapable of grasping basic moral issues. Such as, the obvious fundamental difference between:
1) purposely targeting non-combatants to terrorize them, which is what Hamas routinely does ad infinitum, and
2) targeting people while they are actively acting to kill your civilians, and accidentally hitting non-combatants in the process.

The latter category is what Israel does, almost completely without exception. In addition, Hamas often purposely and cynically places their rockets and weapons in close proximity to civilian populations to use civilians as human shields, an explicit war crime according to international law, knowing that Israel will do its utmost to follow international law and morals which Hamas has no qualms flaunting.

It's incredible to me that you can't intuitively grasp this. It makes me think you must be blinded by something... hatred? Self-loathing? Guilt? I don't know, but it's something.

What is incredible is that you and your bloodthirsty dna (we all have it.. just some control it better) sit and try to intellectualize murder

:thumbsup:
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: magreen
Wow jpeyton and pokerguy, you really show yourselves to be incapable of grasping basic moral issues. Such as, the obvious fundamental difference between:
1) purposely targeting non-combatants to terrorize them, which is what Hamas routinely does ad infinitum, and
2) targeting people while they are actively acting to kill your civilians, and accidentally hitting non-combatants in the process.

The latter category is what Israel does, almost completely without exception. In addition, Hamas often purposely and cynically places their rockets and weapons in close proximity to civilian populations to use civilians as human shields, an explicit war crime according to international law, knowing that Israel will do its utmost to follow international law and morals which Hamas has no qualms flaunting.

It's incredible to me that you can't intuitively grasp this. It makes me think you must be blinded by something... hatred? Self-loathing? Guilt? I don't know, but it's something.

What is incredible is that you and your bloodthirsty dna (we all have it.. just some control it better) sit and try to intellectualize murder

:thumbsup:

seriously, this.

I sort-of puke a little when I see this sociopathic lack of compassion for universal human suffering. Walking in other peoples' shoes is not something we do often in this 21st century, and sadly, it shows.

Happy New Year, everyone.

It doesn't sound like Gazan children will be getting any sleep tonight, and the flesh-rending fireworks will not be stopping until Israeli politicians fulfill their election-season "gettin' tough on terrah" quota. This thread, like the one that preceeded it regarding this topic, makes me ashamed of humanity.
 

ChunkiMunki

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Originally posted by: magreen
Wow jpeyton and pokerguy, you really show yourselves to be incapable of grasping basic moral issues. Such as, the obvious fundamental difference between:
1) purposely targeting non-combatants to terrorize them, which is what Hamas routinely does ad infinitum, and
2) targeting people while they are actively acting to kill your civilians, and accidentally hitting non-combatants in the process.

The latter category is what Israel does, almost completely without exception. In addition, Hamas often purposely and cynically places their rockets and weapons in close proximity to civilian populations to use civilians as human shields, an explicit war crime according to international law, knowing that Israel will do its utmost to follow international law and morals which Hamas has no qualms flaunting.

It's incredible to me that you can't intuitively grasp this. It makes me think you must be blinded by something... hatred? Self-loathing? Guilt? I don't know, but it's something.

:thumbsup: couldn't agree more. Way to govern Hamas. So hell bent on destroying Israel you will sacrifice your own "people". :thumbsdown:


 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: RichardE
When Hamas starts attacking military installations than you can compare them.

Can hamas attack military installations? I mean they can barely get any kills with the homemade rockets. They would be stomped fast if they tried a frontal assault on some military base.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
:thumbsup: couldn't agree more. Way to govern Hamas. So hell bent on destroying Israel you will sacrifice your own "people". :thumbsdown:


I agree with this too. Both sides just suck.

Let me add to all of you hawks that enjoy this: Please remember when this is done there are people over there that you think are against you that just want to raise their kids give them an education and live life. All of us and I mean ALL of us sitting here and debating this no matter the side have won the lottery of life. We shouldn't forget that.