Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
How nice, attrocities documented.
Actually, the videos of Palestinians purposely blowing up women and children are on a different site.
How is that an atrocity?
They call it 'collateral damage' when we bomb women and children in Iraq andAfghanistan.
For once, I have to agree with jpayton. IDF bombs and planes killing innocents is no different than terrorists killing innocents. It's all the same, they just use better equipment and technology.
That's complete bullshit.
Those who wish to remain intellectually honest know that it's all about
intent.
Our enemies
intentionally target civilians.
We (US and Israel) do not. In fact, Western military forces go out of our way -- to the point of endangering ourselves and our missions -- to avoid civilian casualties in
every engagement.
We do everything within our power to
limit civilian casualties while our enemies do everything in their power to
cause civilian casualties.
Ultimately, this basic truth is what makes us
The Good Guys...
Palehorse, your pathetic little math leaves out all kinds of relevant factors such as the relative strength of the two sides.
I would bet a lot of money that if you were in their shoes, you would be explaining why you are right to target civlians in the face of absurdly overwhelming power.
You have never been in that situation, being a citzen of a society under the thumb of a vastly overwhelming force. You have not mentally adjusted to the differences.
You instead offer the pathetic little match as a rationalization, which in its selectivity lets you come out justified for your position, by ignoring so much of the picture.
That's easy to do when you don't give a crap about the other side. People have always been able to do that. The Jews did it with their slaves, the Egyptians with theirs, the Romans with theirs. The Japanese did it with every country they occupied. We did it with the Native Americans, as did Columbus, who enslaved them to search for gold and killed off 90% of the millions of them within 30 years of arriving. There was one guy there who wrote about the atrocities, but nearly everyone saw it as just fine.
What a joke!
You want to reverse the situation Ok let's do that!
Say there were 22 Jewish states, and only one tiny Arab state.
And in all those 22 Jewish states every Arab group was denied anything like equality but instead relgated to second class Dhimmi status or outright expelled for centuries.
And in all those 22 Jewish states they also possessed fantastic oil reserves and thus wealth and the one tiny Arab state possessed nothing but the intelligence of its people. Not even an ounce of water which is housed in Gaza a hostile Jewish territory. Funded and supported by the rich Jews.
And those 22 Jewish states have over 14,000,000 square miles of territory, and the one tiny Arab state has less than 1/1,000th of that, or about 10,0000 square miles.
Those 22 Jewish states were possessed by an ideology requiring them to move heaven and earth in order to eradicate that one tiny Arab state.
And those those 22 Jewish states were intent on rewriting, or destroying, the history of those Arabs in their one tiny "Arab" state who lived there for 3000+ years prior, because the 1350 years of Judism takes presidence.
Those same Jews had long ago conquered that little area, running out the Arabs, and the desperate Arabs 'escaped' to Europe where they were virtually wiped out for being 'not quite white'
After realizing their evil deeds, those Europeans, said the Arabs had right to establish the Arab National Home, a tiny fraction of what they had before, but the 22 Jewish states were having no part of that.
The wars raged to eradicate those Arabs once and for all - at first all the 22 nations of Jews, with their fabulous wealth and land- ganged up on the recently eradicated Arabs, but later defined it as a David and Goliath scenario, with Jewish shock troops - all for western consumption.
and on and on...
You need to think clearly about how I have taken your invited hypothetical and ask yourself if you wish to remain a moral idiot, or care to embrace what is just, what is right.
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