Is Trump Hitler copy cat on policies?

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Indus

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No we are in an age where idiots like you can blab on and on....

Careful dude, if given the opportunity Trump could be far worse than Hitler.

It's not like he particularly likes Israel, he just wants to steal their land and money.
 

Spungo

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Political scientists and historians overwhelmingly say the Nazi party was far right authoritarian, not left wing.

Then why does his behavior seem to perfectly match that of modern day left wingers? Which group of people is telling women to cover up and stop dressing so slutty? Feminists. Which group is trying to silence free speech? Feminists and social justice warriors. Feminists can have meetings and nobody says anything. When a group of men get together to talk about domestic abuse against men and talking about the rights of fathers, they get protested, they receive bomb threats, they get fire alarms pulled, and the list goes on. It's exactly what the brown shirts did. Going on witch hunts to find Jews? Guess which group is doing something similar. Yep, you guess it - feminists and social justice warriors accusing all men of rape and sexual assault. The Nazis also had a policy of removing Jews from positions of power just because they were Jews. Can you guess which group is trying to remove men from positions of power simply because they are men? Yep - social justice warriors. They also remove people because they are too white or too straight.

Intersectional feminism is textbook Nazi doctrine. All members of group X are evil, all members of group Y are not evil. It has gone so far into Nazi territory that people fighting against the regressive left make parodies like petition to replace John Oliver with a woman. If you read what it says, it's actually a parody of what Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau (left winger) believes.
 

sm625

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Hitler was the product of a society that suffered from mass delusion. Their delusion was that Germany could have won the war. The reality was that they had lost and lost badly and were in no position to win any better terms. They would have lost more territory, perhaps even the Rhur valley which would have been even more devastating. But millions of Germans falsely believed that they were betrayed and could have won the war if they hadnt signed the armistice. Hitler and the Nazis sprang forth from this delusion. Just like Obama sprang forth from the delusion that the government can lower the cost of healthcare by requiring everyone give the drug companies even more money. Just like Sanders springs forth from the delusion that the government can somehow lower the cost of college even though previous meddlings have already quadrupled the cost of college.

These people and their delusions... Anyway, exactly what sort of delusion is Trump suffering from? That he can make America great again? That putting up a giant wall will stem the flow of illegals? That deporting illegals will increase hiring? Compared to the kind of utter nonsense the democrats believe, these assumptions are rather logical.
 

Indus

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Hitler was the product of a society that suffered from mass delusion. Their delusion was that Germany could have won the war. The reality was that they had lost and lost badly and were in no position to win any better terms. They would have lost more territory, perhaps even the Rhur valley which would have been even more devastating. But millions of Germans falsely believed that they were betrayed and could have won the war if they hadnt signed the armistice. Hitler and the Nazis sprang forth from this delusion. Just like Obama sprang forth from the delusion that the government can lower the cost of healthcare by requiring everyone give the drug companies even more money. Just like Sanders springs forth from the delusion that the government can somehow lower the cost of college even though previous meddlings have already quadrupled the cost of college.

These people and their delusions... Anyway, exactly what sort of delusion is Trump suffering from? That he can make America great again? That putting up a giant wall will stem the flow of illegals? That deporting illegals will increase hiring? Compared to the kind of utter nonsense the democrats believe, these assumptions are rather logical.

YUUGE difference between the two..

for example getting universal healthcare vs.. trump's cleansing and stealing land and property
 

jackstar7

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Then why does his behavior seem to perfectly match that of modern day left wingers? Which group of people is telling women to cover up and stop dressing so slutty? Feminists. Which group is trying to silence free speech? Feminists and social justice warriors. Feminists can have meetings and nobody says anything. When a group of men get together to talk about domestic abuse against men and talking about the rights of fathers, they get protested, they receive bomb threats, they get fire alarms pulled, and the list goes on. It's exactly what the brown shirts did. Going on witch hunts to find Jews? Guess which group is doing something similar. Yep, you guess it - feminists and social justice warriors accusing all men of rape and sexual assault. The Nazis also had a policy of removing Jews from positions of power just because they were Jews. Can you guess which group is trying to remove men from positions of power simply because they are men? Yep - social justice warriors. They also remove people because they are too white or too straight.

Intersectional feminism is textbook Nazi doctrine. All members of group X are evil, all members of group Y are not evil. It has gone so far into Nazi territory that people fighting against the regressive left make parodies like petition to replace John Oliver with a woman. If you read what it says, it's actually a parody of what Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau (left winger) believes.

This ain't Canadia.
 

thraashman

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Then why does his behavior seem to perfectly match that of modern day left wingers? Which group of people is telling women to cover up and stop dressing so slutty? Feminists. Which group is trying to silence free speech? Feminists and social justice warriors. Feminists can have meetings and nobody says anything. When a group of men get together to talk about domestic abuse against men and talking about the rights of fathers, they get protested, they receive bomb threats, they get fire alarms pulled, and the list goes on. It's exactly what the brown shirts did. Going on witch hunts to find Jews? Guess which group is doing something similar. Yep, you guess it - feminists and social justice warriors accusing all men of rape and sexual assault. The Nazis also had a policy of removing Jews from positions of power just because they were Jews. Can you guess which group is trying to remove men from positions of power simply because they are men? Yep - social justice warriors. They also remove people because they are too white or too straight.

Intersectional feminism is textbook Nazi doctrine. All members of group X are evil, all members of group Y are not evil. It has gone so far into Nazi territory that people fighting against the regressive left make parodies like petition to replace John Oliver with a woman. If you read what it says, it's actually a parody of what Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau (left winger) believes.

Authoritarianism isn't exclusively a right wing trait, but it is overwhelmingly a trait of the right wing. Nazi, the Tea Party, Trump are all extreme authoritarians. The GOP in general are authoritarian. And yes, social justice warriors are authoritarian, but with left wing politics. Really, a SJW is that rare person on the left who acts like everyone does on the right.
 

SP33Demon

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Hitler was the product of a society that suffered from mass delusion. Their delusion was that Germany could have won the war. The reality was that they had lost and lost badly and were in no position to win any better terms. They would have lost more territory, perhaps even the Rhur valley which would have been even more devastating. But millions of Germans falsely believed that they were betrayed and could have won the war if they hadnt signed the armistice. Hitler and the Nazis sprang forth from this delusion. Just like Obama sprang forth from the delusion that the government can lower the cost of healthcare by requiring everyone give the drug companies even more money. Just like Sanders springs forth from the delusion that the government can somehow lower the cost of college even though previous meddlings have already quadrupled the cost of college.

These people and their delusions... Anyway, exactly what sort of delusion is Trump suffering from? That he can make America great again? That putting up a giant wall will stem the flow of illegals? That deporting illegals will increase hiring? Compared to the kind of utter nonsense the democrats believe, these assumptions are rather logical.
Amen brother. And notice how the other candidates all copy Trump as well, especially Cruz. He didn't start talking about a wall until after Trump did. Trump is the obvious choice because his policies will make the most sense compared to other candidates.
 

LegendKiller

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Hitler was the product of a society that suffered from mass delusion. Their delusion was that Germany could have won the war. The reality was that they had lost and lost badly and were in no position to win any better terms. They would have lost more territory, perhaps even the Rhur valley which would have been even more devastating. But millions of Germans falsely believed that they were betrayed and could have won the war if they hadnt signed the armistice. Hitler and the Nazis sprang forth from this delusion. Just like Obama sprang forth from the delusion that the government can lower the cost of healthcare by requiring everyone give the drug companies even more money. Just like Sanders springs forth from the delusion that the government can somehow lower the cost of college even though previous meddlings have already quadrupled the cost of college.

These people and their delusions... Anyway, exactly what sort of delusion is Trump suffering from? That he can make America great again? That putting up a giant wall will stem the flow of illegals? That deporting illegals will increase hiring? Compared to the kind of utter nonsense the democrats believe, these assumptions are rather logical.

It wasn't the thought that they could have won, it was the utter subjugation and humiliation the world put the Germans through. They destroyed their economy, forced them to print Marks to pay, annexed parts of the country when they couldn't, gutted industries, destroyed the banks, made the government lackies. There was no pride left for them, no ability to move forward, no thoughts that tomorrow might be better. The world laughed at them.
 

Genx87

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Authoritarianism isn't exclusively a right wing trait, but it is overwhelmingly a trait of the right wing. Nazi, the Tea Party, Trump are all extreme authoritarians. The GOP in general are authoritarian. And yes, social justice warriors are authoritarian, but with left wing politics. Really, a SJW is that rare person on the left who acts like everyone does on the right.

You are kidding us right? Hillary is an authoritarian and so is Obama. Remember when Hillary pushed to attack libya and kill thousands? Or when Obama passed Obama care forcing people to buy a private product? The list can go on and on. The very tenant of the American left is centralized power(authoritarianism). You are correct the GOP is the right sided version of this. But if you believe the american left believes in liberal or individual rights you havent been paying attention.
 

thraashman

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You are kidding us right? Hillary is an authoritarian and so is Obama. Remember when Hillary pushed to attack libya and kill thousands? Or when Obama passed Obama care forcing people to buy a private product? The list can go on and on. The very tenant of the American left is centralized power(authoritarianism). You are correct the GOP is the right sided version of this. But if you believe the american left believes in liberal or individual rights you havent been paying attention.

If you ever look at those political quizzes that show the X/Y axis (see below), both Obama and Hillary fall onto the authoritarian side, it's just that the GOP falls WAY into the authoritarian side. Then there are those who are ACTUALLY on the left. There's a reason that Bernie is popular, he's the first candidate in who knows how long that actually is left wing at all. Unfortunately the public is a bit too authoritarian in this country, thanks mostly to fear based rhetoric. (For reference most people I know that actually hold left wing view fall about halfway into the bottom left quadrant, myself included)
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Genx87

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I dont put a lot of stock in those charts for the most part. I have seen them be so bad Ron Paul and Margaret Thatcher shared the same space. lol wut? Anyways I digress. To me the biggest thing when looking at those is the authoritarian vs libertarian. Left or right means little to me. At the end of the day what does it matter if govt at the end of the gun forces you to buy Ford or if the govt owns ford? Both are authoritarian. Where as the idea of collective or individualistic policy at the libertarian level is totally voluntary. Plus the concept of left and right changes over time. Since the 1930s liberals have sat within the upper left quadrant. Before that, liberals right or left occupied the lower half.
 

Spungo

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Left or right means little to me.

Here's a simple flowchart to help you determine if someone is left wing or right wing.
Use violence and racism to maintain the current state of everything -> right wing.
Use violence and racism to change the state of everything -> left wing.

If Hitler wanted to use violence of the state to keep Jews in positions of power and claim that Aryans were the inferior race, he would be right wing. Replace Jew with white and Aryan with black and you get the same idea. Keep whites in power because blacks are inferior -> right wing.
Swap it around and it becomes left wing. Make your cabinet 50% women because who the hell cares about things like merit and experience? Left wing. Vote for Obama just because he's black or vote for Hillary just because she's a woman -> left wing.
Vote for Romney just because he's white -> right wing.

This almost feels like a game one could play with elementary school kids. Throw out a racist situation and let them figure out if it's a left or ring wing position.
 

nakedfrog

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Guy, if you're really buying the stuff you're putting forth in the OP, I think you need to step back from the ledge.
 

Indus

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Guy, if you're really buying the stuff you're putting forth in the OP, I think you need to step back from the ledge.

We're not buying or selling anything.. we're appalled that a candidate for President is taking positions that are even comparable to the ones listed in the OP. D:
 

SP33Demon

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You're a petty and scared bitch, that's all there is to it. Anyone who needs to invoke Godwin's law is trumpeting to the world that they're scared shitless and have resorted to extreme views. Funny how a single person you've never met can invoke so much power over you. This tells me that you're a weak individual.

Let's bring up some of your other gems of extreme views:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37902507&postcount=134
"And I've lived and worked in NYC for most of my life, I've not come across this guy or guys like these. If I found someone preaching this kind of hate, I'd call the cops and the FBI to have them be shipped off to Guantanamo because that's not freedom of speech, that's treason."

And yet here you are with your Hitler hate speech thread. More hypocrisy like when you made fun of the kid for writing a paper on Hitler. I would do some soul searching and ask yourself why you allow someone to have so much power over you.

Bonus quote from Indus (yes he really is the gift that keeps on giving):
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37893000&postcount=1
"So Mr. Trump, when is America going to be safe again for Sikhs? We have no choice.. we need to deport the ones committing these violent acts."

Personally blaming a person from their fantasy for violence against their own race. You should probably be on meds buddy, before you hurt someone or yourself. No offense.
 

Indus

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Thank you for proving my point perfectly that it's the Trump voters committing the heinous acts and that's the danger of Trump. And warning ahead of time what they're capable of, it's good citizenship, not hate speech.

Please post more.. show more stuff like how Jindal is an idiot, how brownback bankrupted kansas and how Michigan is poisoned thanks to the failed policies of Conservaterrorists.
 
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nakedfrog

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We're not buying or selling anything.. we're appalled that a candidate for President is taking positions that are even comparable to the ones listed in the OP. D:
I mean, you're telling me you genuinely believe that if Trump gets the presidency, he'll initiate the wholesale slaughter of millions of Muslims and immigrants? Or are you willing to concede that's hyperbole?
That's the kind of ethnic cleansing Hitler engaged in, and you're saying Trump will do the same thing. And that you're not kidding about it.
 

Indus

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I mean, you're telling me you genuinely believe that if Trump gets the presidency, he'll initiate the wholesale slaughter of millions of Muslims and immigrants? Or are you willing to concede that's hyperbole?
That's the kind of ethnic cleansing Hitler engaged in, and you're saying Trump will do the same thing. And that you're not kidding about it.

Considering the list in the OP is made of factual quotes made by him and not taken out of context.. all are available for viewing/ listening on youtube.. you can draw your own conclusions even if they're different from mine.
 

OutHouse

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Considering the list in the OP is made of factual quotes made by him and not taken out of context.. all are available for viewing/ listening on youtube.. you can draw your own conclusions even if they're different from mine.

fuck me, wipe the foam off your mouth.
 

Indus

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dude you are the biggest bigot and xeno asshole on this board.

LOL I didn't piss on any Mexicans and shout Trump Trump Trump.

I didn't yell TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP when I lost a basketball game.

I didn't beat up black lives matter protesters and say Seig Heil.

I didn't run over a Sikh with my truck and say go back to your own country.

I didn't draw a swastika on a synagogue.

And I don't defend people like those unlike some on this forum so regarding the bigotry and xeno asshole comment.. right back at you pal!
 

SP33Demon

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Indus you are in need of a therapist. Maybe they'll listen to your hitler and trump fantasies. I'm saying this because I care about you.