RabidMongoose
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Additionally, I clearly didn't make it personal to you. I had no intention to as you weren't even involved in the thread at the time. However, you MADE it personal.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
True, but the severity of your insults were staggering. You didn't just call me an elitist - you called me an elitist asshole, insulted where I used to go to school, and basically said that I judge people from where they went to college. I then commented on saying how I don't care for irrelevant information about your life story and what not. Hardly as offensive as calling someone an asshole and judgemental. You then went on and said I 'suck others off' and a prick, etc.
Perhaps I should have responded with "Please dont' post information about your life that has no relevance to my post" - but your abrasive post didn't warrant such a reply either. You always have to go to a personal level.
My post had plenty of relevance. As I already said I was trying to show that people don't just pick a school because they suck. I'd think 3-4 posts saying sh!t about me posting my life story(two sentences about why some people don't go for top tier) is a bit much and worthy of a flame. I went personal because you did insult me by saying Undergrad in Alabama sucks.
He said it doesn't reflect the nature of the people though.
Seriously, do you get all uppity if someone says 'hi' instead of a proper 'hello' to you?
I think saying the entire State of Alabama's undergrad system sucks and you HAVE to go out of state isn't the same as saying hi instead of hello.
Which he rescinded... and then you exploded.
Not true. He didn't rescind until after I insulted him.
Here it is:
You went crazy with your elitist asshole comment. Rabid rescinded the comment. I replied saying Rabid is not talking about the students and not to tell us your life story. Rabid agrees. The End one would think. Except them, randomly, you come up with the 'sucking off' comment. Rabid then says it's just his opinion that Troy St. isn't regarded well. Then you get all uppity again because of his opinion.
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.
I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.
It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.
Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.
But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.
I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.
This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.
You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.
I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.
It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.
Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.
But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.
I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.
This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.
You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't believe that my previously rescinded comment warranted such an abrasive and personal attack. Saying 'AL sucks' doesn't mean that you should reply back with 'fvck u ahole, u prick'...Is it wrong to say AL sucks? Sure. But it doesn't warrant such an offensive reply.
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.
I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.
It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.
Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.
But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.
I never attacked his sexual orientation. I explain this for the 5th time in 30 minutes, but saying someone sucks another person off has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It means you suck up to them. It's a cliche statement that says nothing about someone's preference. You're barking up the wrong tree by accusing me of being a homophone. And I did make a counter-argument directly below my insults. Ad-hom doesn't mean an argument is invalid.
It sounds like an attack on sexual orientation. I'm sure that if you said that to most people, they would assume the same.
I'm not accusing you of being a homosexual hater - I'm fine with it, too. However, the tone of you using it was insulting.
Again, you were the first to bring it to a personal level. You need to be more civilized.
Interesting, but I've always heard people use sucking someone off as a way to say they are stuck up someone's ass or that they worship the person. It's meant to convey that they are biased to that person and that they suck up to them. There is no homosexual innuendo behind it. Anyway, I don't think a verbal insult means I'm not civilized. I didn't exactly fly to Boston and cook you and eat you did I?
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Additionally, I clearly didn't make it personal to you. I had no intention to as you weren't even involved in the thread at the time. However, you MADE it personal.
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.
I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.
It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.
Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.
But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.
I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.
This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.
You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.
I can say the Mets have a stronger pitching staff than my local little league team and if you decide to take it personally it becomes a personal attack?
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.
I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.
It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.
Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.
But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.
I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.
This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.
You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't believe that my previously rescinded comment warranted such an abrasive and personal attack. Saying 'AL sucks' doesn't mean that you should reply back with 'fvck u ahole, u prick'...Is it wrong to say AL sucks? Sure. But it doesn't warrant such an offensive reply.
Is that not your opinion that it doesn't warrant such a reply? If you said NY sucks don't you think New Yorkers would cuss you out? What if you went to South Boston and said Irish people and Southies suck. Would they take it as an accident and not verbally acost you? I doubt it. You make a comment like that and you have to expect something back. It's life.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Additionally, I clearly didn't make it personal to you. I had no intention to as you weren't even involved in the thread at the time. However, you MADE it personal.
Intention has nothing to do with perspective. I've gotten plenty of PMs and comments from people who thought I was insulting them and I wasn't intending to. Does that mean their feelings weren't valid because I didn't mean to? If I have no intention of hitting you with my car driving 60mph does that mean I'm not liable? No, and no.
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.
I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.
It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.
Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.
But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.
I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.
This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.
You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't believe that my previously rescinded comment warranted such an abrasive and personal attack. Saying 'AL sucks' doesn't mean that you should reply back with 'fvck u ahole, u prick'...Is it wrong to say AL sucks? Sure. But it doesn't warrant such an offensive reply.
Is that not your opinion that it doesn't warrant such a reply? If you said NY sucks don't you think New Yorkers would cuss you out? What if you went to South Boston and said Irish people and Southies suck. Would they take it as an accident and not verbally acost you? I doubt it. You make a comment like that and you have to expect something back. It's life.
Absolutely, it doesn't warrant such a reply. Only a thug would reply in such an offensive manner.
Don't try to make saying 'the school system in AL sucks' be the equivalent as a racial attack. Saying 'Boston sucks' doesn't warrant an attack. I hope that any civilized person would agree.
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.
I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.
It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.
Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.
But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.
I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.
This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.
You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.
I can say the Mets have a stronger pitching staff than my local little league team and if you decide to take it personally it becomes a personal attack?
Perspective differs from intent in a major way. Why do you think some people get upset over something that you think is crap, but I'll bet you'd the same about something that bothers you. Everyone has thinks that aggravate them incessantly. Cracking on Alabama is one of those things to me; especially when it says ANY school in Alabama sucks. Yeah, that's personal to me because I attend undergrad in Alabama. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. I'm saying that's my perspective.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Additionally, I clearly didn't make it personal to you. I had no intention to as you weren't even involved in the thread at the time. However, you MADE it personal.
Intention has nothing to do with perspective. I've gotten plenty of PMs and comments from people who thought I was insulting them and I wasn't intending to. Does that mean their feelings weren't valid because I didn't mean to? If I have no intention of hitting you with my car driving 60mph does that mean I'm not liable? No, and no.
However it has much to do with placing fault.
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Wow....I guess all mods are sleeping. It's funny to watch this fight cuz all the posts are seconds after another
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.
You rational? Hahahaha
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.
You rational? Hahahaha
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.
You rational? Hahahaha
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.
You rational? Hahahaha
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.
You rational? Hahahaha
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up
Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater![]()
Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.
You rational? Hahahaha