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Mill

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
28,558
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
28,558
3
81
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
28,558
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.

I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.

It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.

Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.

But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.

I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.

This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.

You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.

I can say the Mets have a stronger pitching staff than my local little league team and if you decide to take it personally it becomes a personal attack?

Perspective differs from intent in a major way. Why do you think some people get upset over something that you think is crap, but I'll bet you'd the same about something that bothers you. Everyone has thinks that aggravate them incessantly. Cracking on Alabama is one of those things to me; especially when it says ANY school in Alabama sucks. Yeah, that's personal to me because I attend undergrad in Alabama. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. I'm saying that's my perspective.

Yes, and what we're all saying is that your perspective on this is illogical and not common. You don't severely insult someone if they don't like your favorite baseball team or what school you went to.

I don't think calling someone an asshole is severly insulting someone. If so I'll buy you some kleenexs and a doll.
 

Mill

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WTF kind of double post was that? Anyway, I'm going to bed. I've got to go down to my sh!tty subpar school tommorrow and pray that I am able to put food on the table.
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.

I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.

It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.

Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.

But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.

I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.

This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.

You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't believe that my previously rescinded comment warranted such an abrasive and personal attack. Saying 'AL sucks' doesn't mean that you should reply back with 'fvck u ahole, u prick'...Is it wrong to say AL sucks? Sure. But it doesn't warrant such an offensive reply.

Is that not your opinion that it doesn't warrant such a reply? If you said NY sucks don't you think New Yorkers would cuss you out? What if you went to South Boston and said Irish people and Southies suck. Would they take it as an accident and not verbally acost you? I doubt it. You make a comment like that and you have to expect something back. It's life.

Absolutely, it doesn't warrant such a reply. Only a thug would reply in such an offensive manner.

Don't try to make saying 'the school system in AL sucks' be the equivalent as a racial attack. Saying 'Boston sucks' doesn't warrant an attack. I hope that any civilized person would agree.

That's your opinion, and I doubt any civilized(which is an open ended idea anyway) person would say that intention 100% absolves someone of their comments. If I called someone a dirty jew, does that mean it wasn't offensive if I meant that they physically had dirt on them, and that they were in fact jewish?

Well if I say 'Hi there' - which would seem to have no PERSONAL insult in it, but you somehow become personally insulted by it and attack another, then that is strange. Again it takes common sense. I didn't call you an ahole, redneck, whatever. I just said at that time that the AL school system sucks, which was my opinion. To 99.999% of the population, that would not be very inflammatory, if at all...especially to someone who was NOT in the thread at all. It obviously could not have been mean tto be personal to you. Perhaps you should have realized that at first.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: gopunk
jesus i can't believe this thread is 7 pages long... lets all kiss and make up

Can't, he won't let anyone near him while he's wearing his $6000 imported Italian sweater :D

Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be rational and discuss this, but he doesn't want to quit with the insults. I've noticed he has been doing it, but you haven't Rabid.

You rational? Hahahaha

Can you make a cogent point or post without riding RabidMongoose's coat tails?

I didn't get this post. Do you think you could repost it a few dozen more times so it'll eventually hammer in???
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Additionally, I clearly didn't make it personal to you. I had no intention to as you weren't even involved in the thread at the time. However, you MADE it personal.

Intention has nothing to do with perspective. I've gotten plenty of PMs and comments from people who thought I was insulting them and I wasn't intending to. Does that mean their feelings weren't valid because I didn't mean to? If I have no intention of hitting you with my car driving 60mph does that mean I'm not liable? No, and no.

However it has much to do with placing fault.

I don't think so. If you're comment wasn't inflammatory you wouldn't have rescinded it.

Yes I would have. If I say something wrong, yet not inflammatory, then I would take it back.
 

Savij

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Mill
It seems like there isn't a real argument until you say "Do you and CanOWorms suck each other off". Certainly looks like you were trying to start a fight.

I totally disagree. Their comments about my reasoning were just as inflammatory.

It looks like a discussion about Alabama schools till you get there. Your comments are the first personal attacks in the thread.

Not actually it looked like a discussion about Troy State that turned into people bashing the undergrad system in alabama. A bit of a difference considering I'm in the undergrad system, but don't go to Troy State.

But that's a real discussion. Until you get there people were talking about a school system. You are the first person in the thread to attack a person directly. You don't disagree, you don't make a counter argument, you start your post by calling someone an asshole. Your next post attacks his sexual orientation. In between those two posts very little was said about you, just a discussion of the school system. It certainly looks like the blame falls squarely on you.

I wouldn't say that the blame falls squarely on him even though he was the first to take it to a personal level, but he does need to learn how to calm down and act more civilized when faced with a different opinion.

This is where we will always differ. Just because you don't intend something to not be personal doesn't mean it isn't. When you tell me that my schools sucks because it is in Alabama that is personal to me. Whether you meant it or not or rescinded it doesn't matter. Explicit personal attacks are not different than implicit ones, although people like Moonbeam tend to get away with implicit ones.

You'll notice that much of the fervor in any thread comes off of implied insults. I like implied insults, but it's really hard to make your victim get them most of the time. Rather you were TRYING to be insulting or not is beside the point. You didn't say I didn't mean that and then ask me if I wanted to rescind what I said as well. No, you both decided to continue attacking me. At the risk of sounding clich -- two wrongs don't make a right.

I can say the Mets have a stronger pitching staff than my local little league team and if you decide to take it personally it becomes a personal attack?

Perspective differs from intent in a major way. Why do you think some people get upset over something that you think is crap, but I'll bet you'd the same about something that bothers you. Everyone has thinks that aggravate them incessantly. Cracking on Alabama is one of those things to me; especially when it says ANY school in Alabama sucks. Yeah, that's personal to me because I attend undergrad in Alabama. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. I'm saying that's my perspective.

Yes, and what we're all saying is that your perspective on this is illogical and not common. You don't severely insult someone if they don't like your favorite baseball team or what school you went to.

I don't think calling someone an asshole is severly insulting someone. If so I'll buy you some kleenexs and a doll.

Well you certainly weren't trying to get on his good side...
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
WTF kind of double post was that? Anyway, I'm going to bed. I've got to go down to my sh!tty subpar school tommorrow and pray that I am able to put food on the table.

Well good night. I have some work to do anyways.

I hope that by the morning this thread will be long dead...espeically since we all behaved like little school girls in it.
 

Savij

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
WTF kind of double post was that? Anyway, I'm going to bed. I've got to go down to my sh!tty subpar school tommorrow and pray that I am able to put food on the table.

Well good night. I have some work to do anyways.

I hope that by the morning this thread will be long dead...espeically since we all behaved like little school girls in it.

Eeeeeee it's the back street boys EEeeeeee!!!!!11! he's sooo hot!!!!!!111111
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
WTF kind of double post was that? Anyway, I'm going to bed. I've got to go down to my sh!tty subpar school tommorrow and pray that I am able to put food on the table.

Well good night. I have some work to do anyways.

I hope that by the morning this thread will be long dead...espeically since we all behaved like little school girls in it.

Eeeeeee it's the back street boys EEeeeeee!!!!!11! he's sooo hot!!!!!!111111

omg omg omg :D
 

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
WTF kind of double post was that? Anyway, I'm going to bed. I've got to go down to my sh!tty subpar school tommorrow and pray that I am able to put food on the table.

Well good night. I have some work to do anyways.

I hope that by the morning this thread will be long dead...espeically since we all behaved like little school girls in it.
Yes, yes you did.

For the OP, Cliff Notes: Troy State isn't a highly regarded school in the world of Academia, however, it is a good value as far as the education you recieve for your money, and your boss laughing about someone having a Master's from there is mostly unmerited.

The member Mill does tend to talk about himself quite a bit, as I just learned a great deal about him from a quick scan of this thread gone awry.

Mill's father was a VP for a large grocery chain and was tragically killed in a plane crash *I'm very sorry for your loss* This has left him financially secure at a decidedly young age. He owns a nice home in Alabama, has 2 very nice automobiles. He was a very good HS student who recieved a scholarship and is studying for a degree in criminal justice, and will either attend law school or become a law enforcement officer *both very worthy goals* He has an anger management problem, at least in so far as it pertains to intarweb message board discussions, and is a real bulldog of a debater, with the one negative being his reliance on the Ad Hom tactic.

Mill, if you would like a Personal Biographer, my services are available, let me know, the baby needs a new pair of shoes! :D
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
WTF kind of double post was that? Anyway, I'm going to bed. I've got to go down to my sh!tty subpar school tommorrow and pray that I am able to put food on the table.

Well good night. I have some work to do anyways.

I hope that by the morning this thread will be long dead...espeically since we all behaved like little school girls in it.
Yes, yes you did.

For the OP, Cliff Notes: Troy State isn't a highly regarded school in the world of Academia, however, it is a good value as far as the education you recieve for your money, and your boss laughing about someone having a Master's from there is mostly unmerited.

The member Mill does tend to talk about himself quite a bit, as I just learned a great deal about him from a quick scan of this thread gone awry.

Mill's father was a VP for a large grocery chain and was tragically killed in a plane crash *I'm very sorry for your loss* This has left him financially secure at a decidedly young age. He owns a nice home in Alabama, has 2 very nice automobiles. He was a very good HS student who recieved a scholarship and is studying for a degree in criminal justice, and will either attend law school or become a law enforcement officer *both very worthy goals* He has an anger management problem, at least in so far as it pertains to intarweb message board discussions, and is a real bulldog of a debater, with the one negative being his reliance on the Ad Hom tactic.

Mill, if you would like a Personal Biographer, my services are available, let me know, the baby needs a new pair of shoes! :D

I think it will win the Pulitzer! :D
 

Mill

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One caveat, I had a scholarship to Mississippi State that but I lost it when I left there. I wasn't a great student because I was sick for about two years and almost had to drop out, but I went to a very good HS, and was able to get a scholarship based on my ACT and GPA. I'd have not posted "my life's story" but I don't think it's fair to say I live in a trailer.
 

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Mill, he was just poking you with a sharp pointy stick because he knew it would elicit the desired reaction from you ;) He used the classic stereotype for southern rednecks as his Ad Hom, nose picking trailer trash with cars on cinder blocks all over the front yard. Besides, your possessions, or lack thereof, do not define you, and those who use them to attempt to do so only demonstrate their superficiality. Look, creature comforts are great, but don't attach too much importance to them, or, to paraphrase a member here's sig "The possessions you own, will end up owning you"