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Mill

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Hey guys, everyone's reading ability sucks but Mill's, ok? I mean, he's only said it like a dozen times! Very effective argument.

Pretty much like your arguments about my degree, and that if you say it enough it makes it true!
 
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Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

I absolutely agree with you.

Be careful though - if Mill doesn't agree with you then he'll call you an asshole.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

Well, this argument isn't really about that. It's about the reputation of the school. It's been said many times that the reputation doesn't necessarily reflect the individual student. Many times many people have said, here in this thread, that it doesn't matter where you go to school.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Again, that is your opinion. That means poorly regarded to me. You must have completely different standards from me.

Have you ever considered your standards are the ones with the spurious tinge instead of mine?

Sure, it can be anything.

Again, it's my opinion that Troy St. is a poorly regarded school. Can you handle me having a different opinion based on an AL institution? Or are you just going to attack me, just like you did from the very start of this thread.

I can handle someone having a different opinion. How does me calling you an elitist asshole mean I can't handle your opinion? Maybe it is you that can't handle my opinion, because you obviously have a problem with me calling you elitist.
 

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Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

I don't think that anyone said that anyone is making assumptions about the people that go to the school. There have been lots of comments stating that the school does not make the person. All that's being discussed is the rank/reputation of Troy state (except by Mil who finds his family life, house and cars relavent to the topic)
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Hey guys, everyone's reading ability sucks but Mill's, ok? I mean, he's only said it like a dozen times! Very effective argument.

Pretty much like your arguments about my degree, and that if you say it enough it makes it true!

Yep!

He's about to explode again!!!
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Mill
So you've given up on actually making a useful post and are now using this thread to be an asshold and post sarcastic and inane comments. Bravo, very mature.

Not to disturb your myopia with some correction, but I believe I've been pretty much insulted and attacked with the same type of posts. So if I am guilty of being immature, then so are your partners in crim.

Go back and look at this thread. You started off with your brutish, vulgar behavior.

Because I labeled you correctly? Your comments were elitist and much like an asshole.

How was CanOWorms elitist?

How was I elitist - again, like I've said plenty of times - it's not worth it to go to an expensive school. Troy St. isn't trash, but it's poorly regarded, IMO.

If that's elitist, then you're crazy.

True. I'm actually from AL and Troy State didn't even have a very good reputation there. None of the schools in AL are really any good for undergrad. You've got to go out of state.

I think saying that every undergrad school in Alabama is no good is pretty elitist.

Which I later commented and took back.

Still no reason to call someone an asshole, prick, and whatever else.

Try to justify your thuggish behavior however you want - it's amusing to me.
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Again, that is your opinion. That means poorly regarded to me. You must have completely different standards from me.

Have you ever considered your standards are the ones with the spurious tinge instead of mine?

Sure, it can be anything.

Again, it's my opinion that Troy St. is a poorly regarded school. Can you handle me having a different opinion based on an AL institution? Or are you just going to attack me, just like you did from the very start of this thread.

I can handle someone having a different opinion. How does me calling you an elitist asshole mean I can't handle your opinion? Maybe it is you that can't handle my opinion, because you obviously have a problem with me calling you elitist.

You obviously cannot handle someone having a different opinion, as you've shown that you revert to a thuggish behavior when it happens.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

I absolutely agree with you.

Be careful though - if Mill doesn't agree with you then he'll call you an asshole.

Actually what he said is what I've been saying all along. *shrug* I said that I didn't think Troy State was poorly regarded. They've got some impressive rankings for their size and resources and they are a great value. I also made the point that where you went to school doesn't matter as much as how impressive your achievements and skills are. I also said that you don't need a degree from an Ivy League school to get a job. I've said that all along, but sometimes the trees interfere with your view of the forest, eh?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Again, that is your opinion. That means poorly regarded to me. You must have completely different standards from me.

Have you ever considered your standards are the ones with the spurious tinge instead of mine?

Sure, it can be anything.

Again, it's my opinion that Troy St. is a poorly regarded school. Can you handle me having a different opinion based on an AL institution? Or are you just going to attack me, just like you did from the very start of this thread.

I can handle someone having a different opinion. How does me calling you an elitist asshole mean I can't handle your opinion? Maybe it is you that can't handle my opinion, because you obviously have a problem with me calling you elitist.

You obviously cannot handle someone having a different opinion, as you've shown that you revert to a thuggish behavior when it happens.

So, you said Alabama was crappy for undergrade and I can't call you elitist? Ok man...
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

I absolutely agree with you.

Be careful though - if Mill doesn't agree with you then he'll call you an asshole.

Actually what he said is what I've been saying all along. *shrug* I said that I didn't think Troy State was poorly regarded. They've got some impressive rankings for their size and resources and they are a great value. I also made the point that where you went to school doesn't matter as much as how impressive your achievements and skills are. I also said that you don't need a degree from an Ivy League school to get a job. I've said that all along, but sometimes the trees interfere with your view of the forest, eh?

At least we agree on this. As I've said many many times in this thread and in many other threads - it doesn't matter where you went to for 99.9% of jobs or graduate schools.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

I don't think that anyone said that anyone is making assumptions about the people that go to the school. There have been lots of comments stating that the school does not make the person. All that's being discussed is the rank/reputation of Troy state (except by Mil who finds his family life, house and cars relavent to the topic)

I didn't bring up anything about myself until they attacked where I went to school and my choices for choosing a certain school. I only posted in my first post about my options and why I chose. It wasn't until later when they kept attacking me did I try to explain why I am going where I am going and why I am majoring in that degree. I said before that I have family here, and that'd I'd rather do my dream job since I was finanically secure. Somehow me defending myself was irrelevant, but their insults about my school and degree were on-topic.
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Again, that is your opinion. That means poorly regarded to me. You must have completely different standards from me.

Have you ever considered your standards are the ones with the spurious tinge instead of mine?

Sure, it can be anything.

Again, it's my opinion that Troy St. is a poorly regarded school. Can you handle me having a different opinion based on an AL institution? Or are you just going to attack me, just like you did from the very start of this thread.

I can handle someone having a different opinion. How does me calling you an elitist asshole mean I can't handle your opinion? Maybe it is you that can't handle my opinion, because you obviously have a problem with me calling you elitist.

You obviously cannot handle someone having a different opinion, as you've shown that you revert to a thuggish behavior when it happens.

So, you said Alabama was crappy for undergrade and I can't call you elitist? Ok man...

Yes, but later you called me a prick, an asshole, and insinuated that I partake in homosexual activities (not that there's anything wrong with that - however your tone seemed insulting) AFTER I took that comment back. You simply said that you took offense from calling Troy St. poorly regarded.
 

CanOWorms

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You brought up your life story almost immediately! Reread this thread... Here's your post, which started all of this:

"Yeah, but you are an elitist asshole... Not everyone can afford Vanderbilt or even wants to go there. I was accepted there and I had the money, but I didn't want to be around elitist assholes like you. Actually it was more that Mississippi State offered me a scholarship and is number one in my former major, and Vandy didn't even offer my major. Yeah, I love people who judge someone solely on where they got their degree from. Troy State is no Harvard, but it certainly is not anything like ITT tech. It is a major Division I University with over 18k students and several campuses."
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

I don't think that anyone said that anyone is making assumptions about the people that go to the school. There have been lots of comments stating that the school does not make the person. All that's being discussed is the rank/reputation of Troy state (except by Mil who finds his family life, house and cars relavent to the topic)

I didn't bring up anything about myself until they attacked where I went to school and my choices for choosing a certain school. I only posted in my first post about my options and why I chose. It wasn't until later when they kept attacking me did I try to explain why I am going where I am going and why I am majoring in that degree. I said before that I have family here, and that'd I'd rather do my dream job since I was finanically secure. Somehow me defending myself was irrelevant, but their insults about my school and degree were on-topic.
rolleye.gif

You actually brought up my old school and where you were accepted to, enrolled in, etc from the very beginning.

Maybe parts of your history were brought up after you were bringing up another's history (BU *smirk*) - but that doesn't mean that YOU didn't initiate it first.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Again, that is your opinion. That means poorly regarded to me. You must have completely different standards from me.

Have you ever considered your standards are the ones with the spurious tinge instead of mine?

Sure, it can be anything.

Again, it's my opinion that Troy St. is a poorly regarded school. Can you handle me having a different opinion based on an AL institution? Or are you just going to attack me, just like you did from the very start of this thread.

I can handle someone having a different opinion. How does me calling you an elitist asshole mean I can't handle your opinion? Maybe it is you that can't handle my opinion, because you obviously have a problem with me calling you elitist.

You obviously cannot handle someone having a different opinion, as you've shown that you revert to a thuggish behavior when it happens.

So, you said Alabama was crappy for undergrade and I can't call you elitist? Ok man...

Yes, but later you called me a prick, an asshole, and insinuated that I partake in homosexual activities AFTER I took that comment back. You simply said that you took offense from calling Troy St. poorly regarded.

Never once accused you of being a homosexual. I said one of you sucks the other off(i.e. sucking up to someone). I've said it numerous times before and it has never had a sexual-preference rider attached to it.

Secondly, I wasn't the only one who called you an asshole. Frdm51472 called you an asshole as well, but you never responded to his comments. I said what I said and left the thread. I come back later to see about 15-20 successive posts by you and your friend trying to attack me because I tried to give perspective on why everyone is not obsessed with going to a top 25 school. You then took that as me stating my life story, when it was me actually giving you a personal background for WHY someone might go to school like Troy State, or Mississippi State, or Auburn, or UAB, or wherever. I took more offense to you saying no where in Alabama was suited for Undergrad, but whatever. Don't act innocent.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
You brought up your life story almost immediately! Reread this thread... Here's your post, which started all of this:

"Yeah, but you are an elitist asshole... Not everyone can afford Vanderbilt or even wants to go there. I was accepted there and I had the money, but I didn't want to be around elitist assholes like you. Actually it was more that Mississippi State offered me a scholarship and is number one in my former major, and Vandy didn't even offer my major. Yeah, I love people who judge someone solely on where they got their degree from. Troy State is no Harvard, but it certainly is not anything like ITT tech. It is a major Division I University with over 18k students and several campuses."

So TWO FVCKING sentences on WHY I didn't chose a top undergrad school is telling my life story? To me it seems more like a pre-emptive attack on one of you saying I went to UAB and Mississippi State because I couldn't get in anywhere else.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: bolido2000
WTF?? Is half this thread about you guys fighting?
In before it gets out of hand :)

Yep. It gets interesting after the 1028th post though so keep reading :D
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: sxr7171
I didn't read all of the posts here, but I don't think it's wise to make assumptions about someone's abilities just by where they went to school. I think they deserve an interview if everything else in their resume shows suitability for the position. There are so many geographical and financial reasons for why people choose their school. Also, I always thought a military background was always a huge plus during job consideration.

Some companies only recruit from Ivy League schools or other top schools, and only if your company or division is like that can I can understand your boss' reaction. I won't get into the argument about whether it is right for a company to do that, but I will say that it is a bit short sighted, but on the other they have the right to make their own hiring policies. Some of the bigger investment banking firms have been get good results by recruiting at schools they previously wouldn't have bothered to go to.

I don't think that anyone said that anyone is making assumptions about the people that go to the school. There have been lots of comments stating that the school does not make the person. All that's being discussed is the rank/reputation of Troy state (except by Mil who finds his family life, house and cars relavent to the topic)

I didn't bring up anything about myself until they attacked where I went to school and my choices for choosing a certain school. I only posted in my first post about my options and why I chose. It wasn't until later when they kept attacking me did I try to explain why I am going where I am going and why I am majoring in that degree. I said before that I have family here, and that'd I'd rather do my dream job since I was finanically secure. Somehow me defending myself was irrelevant, but their insults about my school and degree were on-topic.
rolleye.gif

You actually brought up my old school and where you were accepted to, enrolled in, etc from the very beginning.

Maybe parts of your history were brought up after you were bringing up another's history (BU *smirk*) - but that doesn't mean that YOU didn't initiate it first.

I've never denied that I didn't initiate part of it, but you both have denied your complicity in it and have tried to act innocent while trying to bait me.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
You brought up your life story almost immediately! Reread this thread... Here's your post, which started all of this:

"Yeah, but you are an elitist asshole... Not everyone can afford Vanderbilt or even wants to go there. I was accepted there and I had the money, but I didn't want to be around elitist assholes like you. Actually it was more that Mississippi State offered me a scholarship and is number one in my former major, and Vandy didn't even offer my major. Yeah, I love people who judge someone solely on where they got their degree from. Troy State is no Harvard, but it certainly is not anything like ITT tech. It is a major Division I University with over 18k students and several campuses."

So TWO FVCKING sentences on WHY I didn't chose a top undergrad school is telling my life story? To me it seems more like a pre-emptive attack on one of you saying I went to UAB and Mississippi State because I couldn't get in anywhere else.

I would never say such a thing. Shows how your mind truly works though...
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Again, that is your opinion. That means poorly regarded to me. You must have completely different standards from me.

Have you ever considered your standards are the ones with the spurious tinge instead of mine?

Sure, it can be anything.

Again, it's my opinion that Troy St. is a poorly regarded school. Can you handle me having a different opinion based on an AL institution? Or are you just going to attack me, just like you did from the very start of this thread.

I can handle someone having a different opinion. How does me calling you an elitist asshole mean I can't handle your opinion? Maybe it is you that can't handle my opinion, because you obviously have a problem with me calling you elitist.

You obviously cannot handle someone having a different opinion, as you've shown that you revert to a thuggish behavior when it happens.

So, you said Alabama was crappy for undergrade and I can't call you elitist? Ok man...

Yes, but later you called me a prick, an asshole, and insinuated that I partake in homosexual activities AFTER I took that comment back. You simply said that you took offense from calling Troy St. poorly regarded.

Never once accused you of being a homosexual. I said one of you sucks the other off(i.e. sucking up to someone). I've said it numerous times before and it has never had a sexual-preference rider attached to it.

Secondly, I wasn't the only one who called you an asshole. Frdm51472 called you an asshole as well, but you never responded to his comments. I said what I said and left the thread. I come back later to see about 15-20 successive posts by you and your friend trying to attack me because I tried to give perspective on why everyone is not obsessed with going to a top 25 school. You then took that as me stating my life story, when it was me actually giving you a personal background for WHY someone might go to school like Troy State, or Mississippi State, or Auburn, or UAB, or wherever. I took more offense to you saying no where in Alabama was suited for Undergrad, but whatever. Don't act innocent.

I already admitted what I said in the beginning was wrong. frdm51472 called me a jackass b/c of that wrong statement I made.

I'm not claiming to be innocent at all - anyone that has made any insult at any time would not be innocent. However, you always seem to attack other people who have a different opinion than yourself.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Again, that is your opinion. That means poorly regarded to me. You must have completely different standards from me.

Have you ever considered your standards are the ones with the spurious tinge instead of mine?

Sure, it can be anything.

Again, it's my opinion that Troy St. is a poorly regarded school. Can you handle me having a different opinion based on an AL institution? Or are you just going to attack me, just like you did from the very start of this thread.

I can handle someone having a different opinion. How does me calling you an elitist asshole mean I can't handle your opinion? Maybe it is you that can't handle my opinion, because you obviously have a problem with me calling you elitist.

You obviously cannot handle someone having a different opinion, as you've shown that you revert to a thuggish behavior when it happens.

So, you said Alabama was crappy for undergrade and I can't call you elitist? Ok man...

Yes, but later you called me a prick, an asshole, and insinuated that I partake in homosexual activities AFTER I took that comment back. You simply said that you took offense from calling Troy St. poorly regarded.

Never once accused you of being a homosexual. I said one of you sucks the other off(i.e. sucking up to someone). I've said it numerous times before and it has never had a sexual-preference rider attached to it.

Secondly, I wasn't the only one who called you an asshole. Frdm51472 called you an asshole as well, but you never responded to his comments. I said what I said and left the thread. I come back later to see about 15-20 successive posts by you and your friend trying to attack me because I tried to give perspective on why everyone is not obsessed with going to a top 25 school. You then took that as me stating my life story, when it was me actually giving you a personal background for WHY someone might go to school like Troy State, or Mississippi State, or Auburn, or UAB, or wherever. I took more offense to you saying no where in Alabama was suited for Undergrad, but whatever. Don't act innocent.

I already admitted what I said in the beginning was wrong. frdm51472 called me a jackass b/c of that wrong statement I made.

I'm not claiming to be innocent at all - anyone that has made any insult at any time would not be innocent. However, you always seem to attack other people who have a different opinion than yourself.

I wouldn't have said anything else about what you said had you just rescinded it. In fact I would have said sorry that you weren't elitist, but perhaps exaggerating about how bad TSU is. However, while you rescinded it you also later insulted and attacked me with your friend numerous times. By the time I got back to the thread you'd both made several posts criticizing me. So while you may have rescinded it, you also insulted me numerous times.
 

bolido2000

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Wow...this is like an IRC fight.
Millenium, CanOWorms and RabidMongoose all online and refreshing the thread for more