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AMDZen

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I wouldn't drop Wilson for him, but there has to be someone else you can drop.

Not really. That is my whole roster above. Unless I drop Hakeem Nicks or Roddy White that is all I have to drop for Keenan Allen. Others on my bench are Chris Johnson, DeMarco Murray, Pierre Garcon, Matthew Stafford
 

Adrenaline

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Hillis, seriously?

I honestly do not understand why people are going out and grabbing Hillis. He has done nothing since that one good year with the Browns. It's like getting Austin Collie when he signed with the Pats. He's a depth player, nothing more.

I pointed out there are going to be four RBs on the Guants roster when Wilson is finally healthy. I wouldn't grab Hillis.
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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Not really. That is my whole roster above. Unless I drop Hakeem Nicks or Roddy White that is all I have to drop for Keenan Allen. Others on my bench are Chris Johnson, DeMarco Murray, Pierre Garcon, Matthew Stafford

I would drop wilson. He'll be out for a few weeks, and he'll come back to a convoluted backfield where it seems Andre Brown *should* earn the most carries. Wilson's value is nearly zero right now. From what I've seen so far, I'd want Keenan Allen on my team. He may be a flash in the pan, but it doesnt look like it so far, and he looks like he could have some real good value going forward. A good speculative pickup.
 

Crono

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Not really. That is my whole roster above. Unless I drop Hakeem Nicks or Roddy White that is all I have to drop for Keenan Allen. Others on my bench are Chris Johnson, DeMarco Murray, Pierre Garcon, Matthew Stafford

You could do a 2-for-1 trade to upgrade your TE and then pick up Allen.
Or just drop Randle - you probably only get a week's value out of him, and it wouldn't be too bad if you started Chris Johnson this week in his stead.

Allen is worth it. Don't drop Wilson, though.

EDIT: Randle had 11 carries for 17 yards last week. He might be an okay RB at might get better with time, but I don't know if I'd trust him, even over Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson still has a shot for a long run or two and some receptions.
 
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Adrenaline

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When Andre Brown comes back, he should go back to being the lead RB. There is a reason David Wilson was the backup. With Brown fully healthy, there is no reason for him to be the backup.
 

Adrenaline

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You could do a 2-for-1 trade to upgrade your TE and then pick up Allen.
Or just drop Randle - you probably only get a week's value out of him, and it wouldn't be too bad if you started Chris Johnson this week in his stead.

Allen is worth it.

Chris Johnson against the 49ers D? Pass. I would prefer the one week rental in Randle.
 

AstroManLuca

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Jun 24, 2004
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I pointed out there are going to be four RBs on the Guants roster when Wilson is finally healthy. I wouldn't grab Hillis.

True. I realize you weren't advocating picking him up. I was more reacting to the multiple leagues I'm in where people HAVE gotten him. Granted, the players they dropped to get him weren't really any better, but I think he has a little more hype than he deserves on name recognition alone (just like Austin Collie).

But we'll see. Maybe he and Jacobs will take turns and he'll actually do something.

AMDZen: I see your dilemma. Nicks and White are both guys who are definitely going to be worse than Keenan Allen in the short term, but at the same time they're hard to drop. For sure, dropping either one for Allen would be a bold move. Not sure it would be a wrong move, but risky for sure.

But like the others, I would totally drop Wilson for him. You can keep things going with Foster, Randle/Murray, and CJ. Now I guess the question is, who do you play at RB NEXT week? You'll have the Cowboys RB but both Foster and CJ are on bye, and Wilson won't be healthy by then.
 
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Crono

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Chris Johnson against the 49ers D? Pass. I would prefer the one week rental in Randle.

The 49ers aren't the best team against the rush this season. 18th.
It makes less sense to me to drop Wilson when Randle isn't likely to take away Murray's job, and Murray is only out for a week.
 

Adrenaline

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Damn, that's a lopsided trade. It's hard enough to pull off 2-for-1 trades with other savvy fantasy players; 3-for-1s where all you're giving up is a junk heap is that much more difficult.

I offered Ray Rice + Keenan Allen for Forte and it got laughed off. Yeah, it was kinda trade rapey. On the other hand, that same guy offered Andre Johnson + Danny Amendola for my Vincent Jackson + Keenan Allen. As if I'd trade two solid, proven WRs for a guy who's always injured and a guy who doesn't ever catch touchdowns.

Rice is really the only weak link on my team. I also have Bush, Sproles, and handcuffs Pierce and J. Bell at RB, and my WRs are AJ Green, Garcon, V. Jackson, D. Moore, and K. Allen. Romo holding down the fort at QB.

I feel like I've spent hours analyzing everyone's rosters, trying to find their needs and who they might be willing to give up, but I just can't find anyone who would possibly want Ray Rice. Hoping he has a big week; maybe then I can sell him.

Harbaugh should know that he needs Rice to produce as much as Flacco or they will lose games. Rice should be getting 20+ touches a game, but for some reason, he is not.
 

Adrenaline

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The 49ers aren't the best team against the rush this season. 18th.
It makes less sense to me to drop Wilson when Randle isn't likely to take away Murray's job, and Murray is only out for a week.

Chris Johnson has sucked against average defenses. I would trade him in a second or play someone else over him that shows a sliver of scoring modest points. Also, Fitz is the QB in Tennessee.

Give me Randle against the Eagles D over Johnson against the 49ers D.
 

Crono

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AMDZen: I see your dilemma. Nicks and White are both guys who are definitely going to be worse than Keenan Allen in the short term, but at the same time they're hard to drop. For sure, dropping either one for Allen would be a bold move. Not sure it would be a wrong move, but risky for sure.

I'd advocate trading away one or both in a package deal for an upgrade at TE.
 

Imported

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Sep 2, 2000
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The 49ers aren't the best team against the rush this season. 18th.
It makes less sense to me to drop Wilson when Randle isn't likely to take away Murray's job, and Murray is only out for a week.

Was gonna say this. And our second string NT probably isn't going to be playing..
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I'm gonna start Rivers vs. Jax over Peyton at Indy this week.

Am I retarded?

I mean...it should be high emotions for both Denver and Indy, but for some reason....I'm thinking the Colts D is gonna be what we saw against SF and Manning isn't going to have the happiest homecoming.

Also, anyone against Jax...
 

AstroManLuca

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Jun 24, 2004
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I'm gonna start Rivers vs. Jax over Peyton at Indy this week.

Am I retarded?

I mean...it should be high emotions for both Denver and Indy, but for some reason....I'm thinking the Colts D is gonna be what we saw against SF and Manning isn't going to have the happiest homecoming.

Also, anyone against Jax...

I know, Peyton Manning tore them to shreds last week.

Oh wait.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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I know, Peyton Manning tore them to shreds last week.

Oh wait.

well, there is that.

I am more concerned with Peyton getting dinged and just not putting up the fantasy numbers.

besides, I'm getting my butt kicked this year because my 2 best players are QBs and I have only started one of them so far this year. Might as well screw around a bit...
 

tontod

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Out of these 4 WRs, which 3 should I start: Calvin Johnson, Hakeem Nicks, Julian Edelman, Aaron Dobson

I'm thinking Megatron and Nicks, who should I pick between Edelman and Dobson?
 

weirdichi

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Sep 19, 2001
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Which 2 RBs to start?

Bilal Powell (vs NE)
CJ Spiller (vs MIA)
Chris Johnson (vs SF)
Brandon Jacobs (vs MIN)
Joseph Randle (vs PHI)

Yeah, Spiller and Johnson have been sucky this year so I'm just stock piling every RB I can get my hand on.
 

MetalMat

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Jun 14, 2004
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Out of these 4 WRs, which 3 should I start: Calvin Johnson, Hakeem Nicks, Julian Edelman, Aaron Dobson

I'm thinking Megatron and Nicks, who should I pick between Edelman and Dobson?

Yep, Calvin Johnson has been practicing the past few days and should be fine
 

MetalMat

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Which 2 RBs to start?

Bilal Powell (vs NE)
CJ Spiller (vs MIA)
Chris Johnson (vs SF)
Brandon Jacobs (vs MIN)
Joseph Randle (vs PHI)

Yeah, Spiller and Johnson have been sucky this year so I'm just stock piling every RB I can get my hand on.

Thats a rough crew. Powell is a good start, beyond that its a dice roll. I would lean toward Randle because of the matchup but he did not run the ball very well last week. Jacobs may be a decent start.
 

MetalMat

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I'm gonna start Rivers vs. Jax over Peyton at Indy this week.

Am I retarded?

I mean...it should be high emotions for both Denver and Indy, but for some reason....I'm thinking the Colts D is gonna be what we saw against SF and Manning isn't going to have the happiest homecoming.

Also, anyone against Jax...

I would start Peyton, unless you have a very very good reason to never sit your studs and the San Diego matchup is not a very very good reason
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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who is your replacement RB and who was your TE before? we'll see how it looks at the end of the year...

TE was Coby Fleener and my RBs are Moreno/T-Rich and SJax (if he ever gets back) - Rice was really just a flex play. David Wilson too, my bench is an infirmiry. Picked up Tolbert this week for Flex, someone dropped Jacquizz so going to see if I can get him off WW. 12 man league.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Thats a rough crew. Powell is a good start, beyond that its a dice roll. I would lean toward Randle because of the matchup but he did not run the ball very well last week. Jacobs may be a decent start.

I'm actually starting Jacobs in a 2nd league because it's a perfect matchup and I think NY will try to ride him while he's hot so Eli won't have to throw and lose even more confidence. They should gash MN handily with the run, and V.Cruz or Nicks should be open most of the day for the big strike that Jacobs will set up. Any play inside the 10 will be with Jacobs so I'm hoping for TDs.
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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Chris Johnson has sucked against average defenses. I would trade him in a second or play someone else over him that shows a sliver of scoring modest points. Also, Fitz is the QB in Tennessee.

Give me Randle against the Eagles D over Johnson against the 49ers D.

I can see your argument, but I think too many people are buying into Randle just because he has the opportunity this week. I'd play him over most non-starting backs in the league for this week, but I'm not impressed by what he did last week: 11 carries for 17 yards against the Redskins. He might improve, but I would be more comfortable if he were a more seasoned running back with proven talent.

Chris Johnson isn't an inspiring rusher anymore, but he still has some speed and can break off a long run or two on any given Sunday. Greene probably won't be cutting into his workload much just yet, so this might actually be a good week to start him. In PPR he wasn't even that terrible against Seattle last week considering all the alternatives. I'd take 8 points for an RB2 when there aren't a whole lot of options this season. Chris Johnson isn't 2k anymore, but he has still put up at least 1,000 yards rushing every season since 2008. The past three weeks he's faced the Jets, Kansas City, and Seattle. Not exactly average teams defensively overall.

Kansas City and Seattle are better at defending against the pass and not as good against the run as the Jets, but there's an argument to be made that really good defenses can selectively shut down the run when they feel they don't necessarily have to go after a QB as hard when a team has, say, someone like Fitzpatrick and not a lot of good receiving options. Philadelphia, meanwhile, is a bad defense overall (one of the worst), but is right in the middle against the run but is one of the worst against passing. The Cowboys have a good QB in Romo (whether you like him or not), and receivers like Dez Bryant, Jason Witten, and even Terrance Williams who could collectively get a lot of yards and a few TDs. They may not have to run that heavily.

It's not really a good option either way, but I would rather drop Randle to get someone like Allen to play at WR or Flex, since he is clearly the best receiving option a heavy passing team like San Diego has, and they've been using him the past couple weeks. I'm really surprised he isn't owned in every league yet. Everyone got excited about Randle because at first it seemed like Murray would be out a couple of weeks, but for a single week I'm surprised by how many people used huge amounts of FAAB budget or a high waiver priority to pick him up.
 
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