Is this the official 2013 Fantasy Football thread?

[Uppsala9496]

brown will come back somewhere around week 9.

find me a running back who's had as many points as rg3 did last season and i'll eat my words.

wilson will put up good numbers, but when andre brown comes back around mid-season, the numbers will diminish.

with no backup quarterback worthy of mention, it seems like a good trade in order to make eli manning the backup.

also, the trade really depends on what the other guy's team looks like, too. if he looks stacked enough and adding wilson will make him even more stacked, it probably wouldn't be worth it. however, if he is hurting that much for a running back and he's willing to give away one of the top players in the league for wilson, it's an easy decision.

You are not comparing a QB's total points to a RB's.
You are comparing how many more points RGIII will score compared to Manning and how many points less Chris Johnson will have to Wilson.

RGII - Manning. What is the point difference?
Johnson - Wilson. What is the point difference?

Simple as that. You can't compare RGIII points to Wilson points. They play different positions so it's an apple to orange comparison.
Personally I think you will find better value in keeping Wilson. Much, much better value.

 

[Nemesis13]

I think i did ok, i took rugland as a joke


2 Adrian Peterson, Min RB
15 Steven Jackson, Atl RB
18 Vincent Jackson, TB WR
31 Wes Welker, Den WR
34 Matt Ryan, Atl QB
47 Steve Smith, Car WR
50 Chris Ivory, NYJ RB
63 Jordy Nelson, GB WR
66 Tony Romo, Dal QB
79 Kyle Rudolph, Min TE
82 Danny Amendola, NE WR
95 DeAngelo Williams, Car RB
98 Packers D/ST D/ST
111 Steve Johnson, Buf WR
114 Shonn Greene, Ten RB
127 Brandon Pettigrew, Det TE
130 Havard Rugland, FA K

 

[MisterJackson]

Need some RB advice.

ESPN Non PPR League

I currently have Knowshon Moreno @ RB4

Ahmad Bradshaw is available to pick up right now (thoughts/opinions on him greatly appreciated), and Reggie Bush is available on Waivers (I feel pretty confident I can get him if I put in a claim today).

Here's my question: Moreno, Bradshaw or Bush as my RB4?

I'm not a huge fan of Moreno, he has some upside imho, but Broncos offense is strong in so many other areas, so I don't think he'll get many targets.

I don't know too much about Bradshaw overall, but he is a starter.

Reggie Bush seems like the man to have, but from what I read on him, he's really only gonna help you in a PPR league, which we're not. Would he be the wisest pick of the three even in a Non PPR format??

 

[vi edit]

Ahmad Bradshaw is available to pick up right now (thoughts/opinions on him greatly appreciated), and Reggie Bush is available on Waivers (I feel pretty confident I can get him if I put in a claim today).

Bush. No brainer. What idiots are you with that he's a waiver guy? Outside of that, I like Bradshaw over any of the 3 headed RB monster in Denver. Indy will be a timeshare, but baring health Bradshaw will see a majority of the work.

 

[eits]

You are not comparing a QB's total points to a RB's.
You are comparing how many more points RGIII will score compared to Manning and how many points less Chris Johnson will have to Wilson.

RGII - Manning. What is the point difference?
Johnson - Wilson. What is the point difference?

Simple as that. You can't compare RGIII points to Wilson points. They play different positions so it's an apple to orange comparison.
Personally I think you will find better value in keeping Wilson. Much, much better value.

chris johnson will have more points than wilson. i'm about 75% sure of this.

rg3 will have more points than eli manning. i'm 100% sure of this.

 

[Uppsala9496]

Bush is going to have a big year. Even with no points for the catch, the yards will add up.

 

[eits]

Bush. No brainer. What idiots are you with that he's a waiver guy? Outside of that, I like Bradshaw over any of the 3 headed RB monster in Denver. Indy will be a timeshare, but baring health Bradshaw will see a majority of the work.

agreed

 

[eits]

Of course you are!

KT

not my fault my team is that good this season

 

[MisterJackson]

Bush. No brainer. What idiots are you with that he's a waiver guy? Outside of that, I like Bradshaw over any of the 3 headed RB monster in Denver. Indy will be a timeshare, but baring health Bradshaw will see a majority of the work.

Okay, that's what I'm thinking, appreciate the confirmation. The girl who dropped him was our league champ last year, and actually drafted Bush somewhat early last year, so I was surprised to see her drop him. She's usually not one to make bad decisions. She actually dropped Bush for Daryl Richardson! The only reason I could think of her dropping Bush is because we're non PPR, but it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense even then.

@Uppsala and Eitz...Thanks!

 

[AstroManLuca]

LOL, Daryl Richardson was available on waivers as well? You're in a league with morons. Do they all have 3 kickers on their roster or something?

Speaking of leagues with morons, I decided to do one last draft on my lunch break at NFL.com with randoms. It's like easy mode.

So Kaepernick goes third overall, followed by Brees, and the first round concludes with A.J. Green selected 10th (ahead of Calvin Johnson). By pick 17, the first kicker is off the board, and the guy who took Kaep 3rd overall also ends up with the Panthers defense in round 3, two backup defenses, two kickers, and a player who isn't on any team (Austin Collie).

My draft went like this:

1. C.J. Spiller, RB
2. Dez Bryant, WR
3. Stevan Ridley, RB
4. Maurice Jones-Drew, RB
5. Eddie Lacy, RB
6. Pierre Garcon, WR
7. Lamar Miller, RB
8. Dwayne Bowe, WR
9. Danny Amendola, WR (yes, in the 9th round)
10. Matt Ryan, QB (yes, in the 10th round)
11. Daryl Richardson, RB
12. James Jones, WR
13. Jordan Cameron, TE
14. Randy Bullock, K
15. Buccaneers, D

 

[MisterJackson]

Follow up to my last question:

My RB's are

1. MJD
2. Gore
3. Murray
4. Bradshaw (I'm about to drop Moreno for him)

Sooooo, which one of these 4 would you drop to get Bush?

And yes, I know my RB's aren't stellar, so don't make fun of them, haha. I went against the grain and drafted Brees, Megatron, Julio, Gronk, early.

 

[MisterJackson]

LOL, Daryl Richardson was available on waivers as well? You're in a league with morons. Do they all have 3 kickers on their roster or something?

We're only an 8 team league this year (we were 16 teams last year, that was brutal, but I still placed 2nd, my gf placed 3rd). So we just split the league to two 8 team leagues. We had a few people not come back, so there are a lot of first timers in our league this year. I was actually eyeing Daryl before she picked him up, but I wasn't dropping anyone near Bush to do so either (see above post)

 

[slayer202]

Follow up to my last question:

My RB's are

1. MJD
2. Gore
3. Murray
4. Bradshaw (I'm about to drop Moreno for him)

Sooooo, which one of these 4 would you drop to get Bush?

And yes, I know my RB's aren't stellar, so don't make fun of them, haha. I went against the grain and drafted Brees, Megatron, Julio, Gronk, early.

bradshaw

 

[KeithTalent]

LOL, Daryl Richardson was available on waivers as well? You're in a league with morons. Do they all have 3 kickers on their roster or something?

Speaking of leagues with morons, I decided to do one last draft on my lunch break at NFL.com with randoms. It's like easy mode.

So Kaepernick goes third overall, followed by Brees, and the first round concludes with A.J. Green selected 10th (ahead of Calvin Johnson). By pick 17, the first kicker is off the board, and the guy who took Kaep 3rd overall also ends up with the Panthers defense in round 3, two backup defenses, two kickers, and a player who isn't on any team (Austin Collie).

My draft went like this:

1. C.J. Spiller, RB
2. Dez Bryant, WR
3. Stevan Ridley, RB
4. Maurice Jones-Drew, RB
5. Eddie Lacy, RB
6. Pierre Garcon, WR
7. Lamar Miller, RB
8. Dwayne Bowe, WR
9. Danny Amendola, WR (yes, in the 9th round)
10. Matt Ryan, QB (yes, in the 10th round)
11. Daryl Richardson, RB
12. James Jones, WR
13. Jordan Cameron, TE
14. Randy Bullock, K
15. Buccaneers, D

What the hell kind of leagues are you guys in? The AT league we drafted last night Miller and Lacy both went in the 3rd, Bowe went in the 4th and that's just the few that jumped out to me. Crazy.

KT

 

[slayer202]

last night was tough, you guys were on point. no one really dropped too far and all the buzz guys were grabbed early

it's all about the money

 

[vi edit]

What the hell kind of leagues are you guys in? The AT league we drafted last night Miller and Lacy both went in the 3rd, Bowe went in the 4th and that's just the few that jumped out to me. Crazy. KT

No kidding. By the 6th round it was like digging through the waivers. There were a couple diamonds hiding in there but overall that draft was one of the more surgical ones I've been in. No reaching for players and all significant talent was sucked up early.

 

[KeithTalent]

last night was tough, you guys were on point. no one really dropped too far and all the buzz guys were grabbed early

it's all about the money

No kidding. By the 6th round it was like digging through the waivers. There were a couple diamonds hiding in there but overall that draft was one of the more surgical ones I've been in. No reaching for players and all significant talent was sucked up early.

No doubt. I actually like my team from that draft, but the league is always very competitive each year, so who knows how it will go.

KT

 

[AstroManLuca]

We're only an 8 team league this year (we were 16 teams last year, that was brutal, but I still placed 2nd, my gf placed 3rd). So we just split the league to two 8 team leagues. We had a few people not come back, so there are a lot of first timers in our league this year. I was actually eyeing Daryl before she picked him up, but I wasn't dropping anyone near Bush to do so either (see above post)

Ah, that makes more sense. With just 8 teams, you have 16 starting RB spots to fill, 24 if everyone takes an RB flex.

Everyone has a bench, though, so even in an 8-team league, every starting RB should still be owned.

What the hell kind of leagues are you guys in? The AT league we drafted last night Miller and Lacy both went in the 3rd, Bowe went in the 4th and that's just the few that jumped out to me. Crazy.

KT

Eh, it was just some random NFL.com fantasy league I joined for fun. Went to their main site and clicked on the live draft lobby. Wanted to see how it would turn out. NFL.com seems to have the most fantasy noobs. In the leagues I actually care about, it definitely requires skill to put your team together.

 

[SP33Demon]

chris johnson will have more points than wilson. i'm about 75% sure of this.

rg3 will have more points than eli manning. i'm 100% sure of this.

Slight problem with your statement.

1) Eli doesn't have a knee that's had 3 surgeries on it.
2) Eli has a slightly better O-Line, although barely with the preseason injuries (before preseason it was eons better).
3) Eli doesn't run as much and get smacked down as much.
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Eli is a safer pick than RG3 to have more points at the end of the season comparing head to head (assuming injury). RG3 will be lucky to make it to week 10 IF he runs as much as last year. IF he does not (in order to protect his knee) run as much and just stays pocket passer like Eli, Eli has a good shot at beating him head to head since they both have great weapons (Eli getting the edge at WR and Washington at RB for targets).

 

[SP33Demon]

Bush. No brainer. What idiots are you with that he's a waiver guy? Outside of that, I like Bradshaw over any of the 3 headed RB monster in Denver. Indy will be a timeshare, but baring health Bradshaw will see a majority of the work.

Exactly, Reggie Bush was gone in by the third round in most drafts. Bradshaw, by the 5th. Why would you pick Moreno over either of those two in a standard scoring league or even PPR, jesus WTF.

 

[SP33Demon]

Follow up to my last question:

My RB's are

1. MJD
2. Gore
3. Murray
4. Bradshaw (I'm about to drop Moreno for him)

Sooooo, which one of these 4 would you drop to get Bush?

And yes, I know my RB's aren't stellar, so don't make fun of them, haha. I went against the grain and drafted Brees, Megatron, Julio, Gronk, early.

Murray or Bradshaw. Murray has a shittacular O-Line and is small as shit (as noted by one of the Yahoo sports analysts today) and injury prone, and overrated ADP. Bradshaw is still not 100% and will split carries with Vick Ballard who is STARTING over him for week 1 as a result. Oh, and the Indy O-Line isn't great either. Not to say Detroit's is the best but at least middle of the pack and has the monster passing offense to support him.

For God's sake, for Week 1, Eric Karabell has R.Bush as a top 25 Flex ranking @#21, only 5 spots below MJD and even ahead of Gore for Flex rankings, that's how good they are projecting Bush to be. For the record, Murray is #35 and Bradshaw #48. Neither are in R.Bush's tier which makes me wonder what kind of league you're in, and how much the buy-in (see: how much money will you win??) was.

The only question mark for Bush will be his durability for the entire season but you could say that for a lot of the top 25 players. It's luck.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Follow up to my last question:

My RB's are

1. MJD
2. Gore
3. Murray
4. Bradshaw (I'm about to drop Moreno for him)

Sooooo, which one of these 4 would you drop to get Bush?

And yes, I know my RB's aren't stellar, so don't make fun of them, haha. I went against the grain and drafted Brees, Megatron, Julio, Gronk, early.

Who else is on your team? I wouldn't drop any of those RBs. Can't hurt to roster five quality starters. I suppose you have a backup TE to fill in for Gronk. I don't know if you have a second QB or something you could drop.

 

[MisterJackson]

Murray or Bradshaw. Murray has a shittacular O-Line and is small as shit (as noted by one of the Yahoo sports analysts today) and injury prone, and overrated ADP. Bradshaw is still not 100% and will split carries with Vick Ballard who is STARTING over him for week 1 as a result. Oh, and the Indy O-Line isn't great either. Not to say Detroit's is the best but at least middle of the pack and has the monster passing offense to support him.

For God's sake, for Week 1, Eric Karabell has R.Bush as a top 25 Flex ranking @#21, only 5 spots below MJD and even ahead of Gore for Flex rankings, that's how good they are projecting Bush to be. For the record, Murray is #35 and Bradshaw #48. Neither are in R.Bush's tier which makes me wonder what kind of league you're in, and how much the buy-in (see: how much money will you win??) was.

The only question mark for Bush will be his durability for the entire season but you could say that for a lot of the top 25 players. It's luck.

It's just a $40 buy in league, and part of that covers our end of year party. We're not playing for big money by any means.

I only had Moreno, because I dropped Andre Brown, and was looking at either Moreno or D. Richardson to fill that spot.

I agree with you on Murray. I want to keep him so badly, but if I'm honest with myself, keeping him is more of an emotional decision rather than one based on logic. I had him all season last year. I held on and held on, because Murray was supposed to break out and dominate. We both know how that went.

So part of the reason I took him was the emotional component of "This has to be his year!".

Hopefully I can scoop Bush off Waiver tonight. I'm 5th in order, but I don't think anyone else is looking at him. At least I hope they're not. I'm gonna give Murray a couple of weeks to prove himself, but he's getting dropped like a bad habit if I see the same pattern as last year (when he finally hit the field).

This is my first year playing with a Flex spot. We didn't have one last year. I understand the mechanics of the Flex spot, but I think I still need to read up on/learn the nuances of the Flex.

Pardon my ignorance on it, but is Jacoby Jones a good Flex pick tonight? I put him in because punt/kick off return yardage/TD's count for us this year (They didn't last year, and I lobbied to have that changed). Jones is nowhere near a WR2 imho, but I think he'd be good at Flex.

Thoughts on that SP33ddemon?

 

[vi edit]

Pardon my ignorance on it, but is Jacoby Jones a good Flex pick tonight? I put him in because punt/kick off return yardage/TD's count for us this year (They didn't last year, and I lobbied to have that changed). Jones is nowhere near a WR2 imho, but I think he'd be good at Flex.

No way. If you only start 2RB's and a flex, you put Murray/Bush(if you get him) into the flex. I'm not as negative on Murray as some analysts. When healthy he's a beast. It's also a contract year for him which is usually a good thing.

 

[MisterJackson]

Who else is on your team? I wouldn't drop any of those RBs. Can't hurt to roster five quality starters. I suppose you have a backup TE to fill in for Gronk. I don't know if you have a second QB or something you could drop.

We can only have 4 RB's and WR's, 3 QB's, 2 TE's

Currently my roster is:

-Drew Brees (QB)
-MJD (RB)
-Frank Gore (RB)
-Calvin Johnson (WR)
-Julio Jones (WR)
-Zach Sudfeld (TE)
-Jacoby Jones (Flex)
-Cleveland Browns (D/ST)
-Matt Prater (K)

-Gronkowski (TE)
-Eric Decker (WR)
-DeMarco Murray (RB)
-Knowshon Moreno (RB) (dropping him for Bradshaw, will drop Bradshaw for Bush if I get him)
-Alex Smith (QB)
-Ravens D (D/ST)

Sam Bradford also was dropped to Waivers, so my second claim on Waivers tonight will be to drop the Ravens D for him. I don't need him, and don't really care for him, but I think my gf wants him as her QB2 (she has Wilson and Freeman). So I'll snag Bradford if I can to use as a bargaining chip as part of a package deal for Alfred Morris. I REALLY wanted him again this year, but she scooped him up before me at the draft.