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Is this common ? What to do about drug situation ?

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at best calling the cops will just move the deal to a different street.
If police responded to every call like this we'd need a cop car literally on every corner of every intersection in america. That would be nice wouldnt it?
 
at best calling the cops will just move the deal to a different street. If police responded to every call like this we'd need a cop car literally on every corner of every intersection in america. That would be nice wouldnt it?

It's their job. You could make that argument against police fighting any crime.
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
at best calling the cops will just move the deal to a different street.
If police responded to every call like this we'd need a cop car literally on every corner of every intersection in america. That would be nice wouldnt it?

So if they have time to respond, then they do. If they're busy, then they dont. But what does it hurt to make a simple call.
 
Call the police and just let them know about the situation. They'll probably send a car once in awhile by there to watch over the place.
 
Meh, if it is a one time thing no biggie I wouldn't worry about it, but you don't want your neighborhood to turn into a friggin drug haven. If it keeps happening tell the cops that you have seen drug deals going down on this corner.
 
A call is not necessary as he did not witness anything. He thought he may have witnessed something based on his stereotypical profiling of a drug dealer and other assumptions.

I guess I'm just not a fan of phoning the police everychance I get. I tend to think taht police would be better off catching the violent offenders and and armed robbers and car theifs than deal with a petty dime bag deal.
 
I find it interesting that so many have been defending drug dealers in this thread...I have a pretty liberal stance on drugs in general, but I also realize that the dealers who are more likely to become dangerous are the ones that cruise a street in a car (or in this case SUV) looking for customers.
You very rarely hear of someone getting capped at a "friend's" house, but you see the side effects of slinging in the street all the time. There's a huge difference between Joe Drug Dealer who lives in your neighborhood and SUV guy cruising the streets.
If you see the guy again and it looks suspicious, put in an anonymous call to the cops asking them to run a couple of patrol cars down your street every so often; if he's doing what you think he is and he's not a moron, he'll find another neighborhood.
 
I guess I'm just not a fan of phoning the police everychance I get. I tend to think taht police would be better off catching the violent offenders and and armed robbers and car theifs than deal with a petty dime bag deal.

When did anyone advocate calling the cops every chance they get?
 
Originally posted by: Jzero
Oh please, the only people who get hurt in drug deals are the ones who are moving weight and get screwed over and people who don't pay others who front them drugs. Private high school kids are going to be doing neither. That being said, they have picked a horrible place for a drug deal so if a black guy in your neighborhood slinging dimes bothers you so much, you could call the cops for you own form of Darwinism. I would sure make sure that you call anonymously though.
Let me guess - you don't live in an urban area, do you?
Let me guess- you've never met a drug dealer in your life.

I got news for you, drug dealers and "gangstas" aren't always the best shots in the world (how could the be, holding their guns freaking sideways?!). When they miss, the bullet goes somewhere, and that somewhere is sometimes someone completely unrelated who was just minding their own business. Here in Philly, it happens all too often some dumbass tries to shoot someone who didn't pay him, and a little girl playing outside her house gets hit by the stray bullet a few blocks away. Now explain how this is just between the people involved in the deal?
I got news for you, shooting people attracts attention. It's not just any old attention, shooting people gets the attention of the drug dealers #1 enemy: the police. Before I got further, I'm curious as to how you know the motivations behind the shootings that happen in Philly that always hit the innocent bystanders.
 


it was some surburban catholic school kids who owed 10 bucks for a dime bag a black suv driving drug deal gave them. The guy decided the killing them was the best way to keep his business a float.
 
You haven't a clue what went down, let it go. Even if it was a drug deal, do you really think this is the begining of something that needs nipped now? There are people doing and dealing drugs in every neighbourhood, hell, there's probably a grow op within a mile of your house. The world won't end if you don't jump to conclusions and possibly falesly accuse someone.
 
Anybody selling little weed bags to school kids is not the proper target of police attention. He is harmless. Big time dealers dont peddle little dime bags. Low level dealers do. Low level dealers dont need guns because its not a big money issue. once it becomes a big money issue like dealing in 1000+ dollar transactions then dealers usually get a gun so they dont get robbed. No gun = no violence = no need to be scared.
 
I repeat...BIG difference between your friendly neighborhood ganj dealer (who probably lives within a mile or two of each one of us) and a guy slinging from a car. In this case, it's not really clear that is what happened, so I would take a "wait and see" approach.
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Before I got further, I'm curious as to how you know the motivations behind the shootings that happen in Philly that always hit the innocent bystandersIt's usually indicated in the news report clearly enough...


This is hardly the same situation.


Philly and suburbia are not equivalent in anyway.

Bullsh!t. I live in "suburbia" right now and I'm watching parts of it look more and more like south philly with each passing day. One of the things I notice is guys slinging on the other side of town, the part that looks like south philly, despite it being pretty upscale not that long ago. Suburbia isn't immune to crime and drugs, and the "mind your own business" cop out tactic is only going to contribute to the ruining of your rosy dream of what you think life in the suburbs is.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
All I see is drug related shooting, nothing about not paying for a bag. Drug related != because of drug deal. I'd be currious to see what the gang activity was like in that area where the girl was shot.

What is the difference? Drug related shooting is a drug related shooting. Timmoney specifically stated he suspected the shot originated from a corner well-known for being a dealers' hot spot.

It's a pretty sketchy part of town. Between the thug types and the mafia types you've got a pretty good reason for having to watch your back. Don't let that be an excuse - the gangs had to start somewhere, and they found a good home in South Philly b/c the residents would rather mind their own business.
 
what is your definition of suburbia?

Mine is like 4 single family houses per city block

that would give about 12 customers per block

an urban envirronment gives the possiblity of 1000+ residents and potential customers per block

that creates a big money issue which is why drug territory becomes so important and the violence comes into play.

so my conclusions are A: you dont really live in the suburbs or B: you think young people outside are automatically slingin bags
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Anybody selling little weed bags to school kids is not the proper target of police attention. He is harmless. Big time dealers dont peddle little dime bags. Low level dealers do. Low level dealers dont need guns because its not a big money issue. once it becomes a big money issue like dealing in 1000+ dollar transactions then dealers usually get a gun so they dont get robbed. No gun = no violence = no need to be scared.

Yes yes we know you're stance on drug related issues. Either way, the police should be informed about this incident. I do believe the police know better than you do on what the proper actions are that should be taken. Especially after reading some of your inane posts in the past.
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
what is your definition of suburbia?

Mine is like 4 single family houses per city block

that would give about 12 customers per block

an urban envirronment gives the possiblity of 1000+ residents and potential customers per block

that creates a big money issue which is why drug territory becomes so important and the violence comes into play.

so my conclusions are A: you dont really live in the suburbs or B: you think young people outside are automatically slingin bags

Your definition of suburbia is as far off as I expected it to be. We have rowhomes in suburbia. We call them things like "Townhome" and "Carriagehome" but it's a rowhome just the same. You have no idea what "the burbs" are if you think it's a 4 single family homes on a block. Heck, even in the nice part of town the homes aren't that far spread apart.

Edit: my definition is the "dictionary" definition. Sub Urban. I don't live in Philadelphia proper, but I don't live in a rural area. I live in a town outside the city, but within a few miles of the city limit.
Suburb
 
alright this going totally off topic now but how can my definition of suburb be off? Where did I grow up then? WE just have DIFFERENT perspectives of what suburbs are and thats ok to be DIFFERENT. you are no more right than I am about what a suburb is. Settle down wiht your dictionary.com definitions
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
alright this going totally off topic now but how can my definition of suburb be off? Where did I grow up then? WE just have DIFFERENT perspectives of what suburbs are and thats ok to be DIFFERENT. you are no more right than I am about what a suburb is. Settle down wiht your dictionary.com definitions

The problem is that you think of suburbia as a gated community, upper-class white bread, immune to crime, and you used that to try and explain away why crimes in the city proper should not concern those of us living in the suburbs. You are right that the neighborhood you describe may be considered suburban, you are wrong to limit it to that - it just doesn't work that way. You need the dictionary definition so you can get a clue, but you whine when it's given to you.

I think I see where you stand. I'll call the cops and thank my lucky stars that there are not many people like you living in my neighborhood. We watch out for each other where I live.
 
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