Is there something wrong with me?

KidViciou$

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u know, i just realized that no, there is nothing wrong with me, i am doing nothing different than what jesus, or gandhi would have done if presented with these lowly beings
 

mwtgg

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What? They seem to have it good, being that they're ABOUT TO DIE.

Steak? Salads? Pizza? Where's my state-sponsored food?
 

Stunt

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I disagree with the death penalty and agree with you fully...i feel bad for the criminals...i have no idea why.
 

yllus

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Robert Karl Hicks
Hicks saw 28 year old Toni Strickland Rivers talking to her boyfriend on a pay phone at a rural grocery store, and he followed her as she left. Hicks did not know her, and tried to abduct her but she escaped. He chased after her, caught her, stabbed her and nearly decapitated her with a knife. Rivers was not raped, but she was stripped naked from the waist down.

Hicks was a convicted rapist who had been released just nine months before killing Rivers. He was granted parole after serving less than half of a 15-year sentence for raping a 16-year-old girl.


David Larry Nelson
Nelson, 58, was sentenced to die for the Jan. 1, 1978 shooting death of Wilson W. Thompson in Kimberly, a suburban town north of Birmingham, according to court records. Thompson was fatally shot in the head while he was having oral sex with Nelson's girlfriend, who was also shot, but recovered from her injuries.

Nelson was also convicted and sentenced to life in prison without parole for the fatal shooting the night before of Birmingham cab driver James Cash, court records show.


Edward Ernest Hartman
Hartman admitted to police that after drinking 16 beers he shot 77 year old Herman Smith, Jr. in the head from close range while the man sat in a recliner and watched television. Smith was a former boyfriend of Hartman's mother and Hartman was living at his house. Hartman told a friend Smith was wealthy and carried thousands of dollars in his pocket. He took the man's car and left the body in the chair.

Five days later he returned and buried the body in a horse stable then led authorities there after learning he was a suspect. Hartman maintained he was unfairly treated during his trial because the prosecutor repeatedly referred to his homosexuality.
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Kid, what do you feel bad about?

that i'm feeling bad for someone who is so deplorable


but i think i was able to reason with myself that it's not something to be ashamed of
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: yllus
Robert Karl Hicks
Hicks saw 28 year old Toni Strickland Rivers talking to her boyfriend on a pay phone at a rural grocery store, and he followed her as she left. Hicks did not know her, and tried to abduct her but she escaped. He chased after her, caught her, stabbed her and nearly decapitated her with a knife. Rivers was not raped, but she was stripped naked from the waist down.

Hicks was a convicted rapist who had been released just nine months before killing Rivers. He was granted parole after serving less than half of a 15-year sentence for raping a 16-year-old girl.


David Larry Nelson
Nelson, 58, was sentenced to die for the Jan. 1, 1978 shooting death of Wilson W. Thompson in Kimberly, a suburban town north of Birmingham, according to court records. Thompson was fatally shot in the head while he was having oral sex with Nelson's girlfriend, who was also shot, but recovered from her injuries.

Nelson was also convicted and sentenced to life in prison without parole for the fatal shooting the night before of Birmingham cab driver James Cash, court records show.


Edward Ernest Hartman
Hartman admitted to police that after drinking 16 beers he shot 77 year old Herman Smith, Jr. in the head from close range while the man sat in a recliner and watched television. Smith was a former boyfriend of Hartman's mother and Hartman was living at his house. Hartman told a friend Smith was wealthy and carried thousands of dollars in his pocket. He took the man's car and left the body in the chair.

Five days later he returned and buried the body in a horse stable then led authorities there after learning he was a suspect. Hartman maintained he was unfairly treated during his trial because the prosecutor repeatedly referred to his homosexuality.

believe me, i know plenty about these unsavory characters
 

nick1985

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im sorry, but if someone raped and murdered my girlfriend, there is no way in hell i would feel right letting the fvcker live the rest of his life.
 

ntdz

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I feel sorry for them in the sense that their lives got so messed up that they had to go and murder someone. I don't feel sorry for them for having to be put to death, I agree with the death penalty.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Kid, what do you feel bad about?

that i'm feeling bad for someone who is so deplorable


but i think i was able to reason with myself that it's not something to be ashamed of

I think it's okay to feel bad for them. It's hard to imagine how tortured their souls must have been.

I don't feel bad that they were executed. I think that they got what they deserved.

Hopefully, they cried out to their maker before they met their demise.
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Kid, what do you feel bad about?

that i'm feeling bad for someone who is so deplorable


but i think i was able to reason with myself that it's not something to be ashamed of

I think it's okay to feel bad for them. It's hard to imagine how tortured their souls must have been.

I don't feel bad that they were executed. I think that they got what they deserved.

Hopefully, they cried out to their maker before they met their demise.

well truthfully i think execution is an easy out, i think a lifetime in jail (and not cushy jail since these guys can't be rehabilitated) is a better punishment, but perhaps motives are more of a torture and thus unconstitutional?
 

Zebo

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I feel bad only cause they may be innocent and are a victim to some politicans desire to be seen as tough on crime so they institute death penalties and quick trac too cause of the much politicized so-called "20 years of appeals" which are obviously bunk when they are killing people under 30.

Like Peterson case, and he had lots of money and excellent reprsentation, people get convicted all the time with reasonable doubt, he was convicted by media before trail even started, no physical evidence, and no doubt in Texas would get the lethal injection.

Innocent people are and have been executed.
http://www.tcadp.org/factsAndFigures.htm
http://archive.aclu.org/issues/death/23executed.html
 

Taejin

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Kid, what do you feel bad about?

that i'm feeling bad for someone who is so deplorable


but i think i was able to reason with myself that it's not something to be ashamed of

I think it's okay to feel bad for them. It's hard to imagine what it must be like to be a murderer.

I don't feel bad that they were executed. I think that they got what they deserved.

Hopefully, they felt true regret at their actions before they died.

Fixed.
 

cjgallen

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Thomas J. Grasso, Oklahoma - before getting the needle, makes a statement: "I did not get my Spaghetti-O's, I got spaghetti. I want the press to know this."
Poor guy :(
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
Thomas J. Grasso, Oklahoma - before getting the needle, makes a statement: "I did not get my Spaghetti-O's, I got spaghetti. I want the press to know this."
Poor guy :(

hahahahahahahahaha, but still

however, i wonder why they couldn't get him spaghetti o's, it's not like it's hard to get, in fact off the top of my head, i think franco something makes it
 

t3hmuffinman

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
I think it's okay to feel bad for them. It's hard to imagine how tortured their souls must have been.
I don't feel bad that they were executed. I think that they got what they deserved.

word. I read it, and I felt bad, but I believe certain acts can not go unpunished. Some people are unable to function with the rest of society due to their actions.
 

IndieSnob

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I think it's sad because it somewhat reflects on what our society has become. While I think the crimes are deplorable and heinous, you really wonder why they decided to do what they did. I really hate that I'm against the death penatly sometimes, but with how unfair our justice system is in proportion to race and money, I can't support it.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
I think it's okay to feel bad for them. It's hard to imagine how tortured their souls must have been.

I don't feel bad that they were executed. I think that they got what they deserved.

Hopefully, they cried out to their maker before they met their demise.
How can I, someone who has made his fair of mistakes and then some, accurately prescribe what someone truly deserves? If you see fit to have them killed in cold blood, how does that make you any better than what they were in a moment of rage? I cannot logically support the death penalty, because I know that people make mistakes. That applies to criminals, judges, and jurors. I am certainly in no position to cast the first stone, especially when that stone would be fatal.
 

HalosPuma

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
i think it's because i can see the humanity in the most vile of human beings
Nonsense. We need to bring back Old Sparky. None of this "sanitized lethal-injection" crap. In fact any of the following are acceptable: firing line, hanging, beheading. K.I.S.S.
 

biostud

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Even the most vicious killers are still humans, that's what this list reminds me. That's a fact and i despise those who write them off as monsters and non-human.
 

Moonbeam

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I feel bad that the way we treat the least among us is how we treat ourselves. We hate evil so much because we were taught that we were evil and hateful and now we can't heal ourselves because we can't allow our created false selves to forgive what was really god-like inside us. We are all suffering from Stockholm syndrome and haven't the faintest idea. Jesus came to save the worthless and lowly because that's who we feel that we are. But for our pretension we could die in His arms.

All evil in the world has its source in you. The evil you see is that which you project. The criminal is he who acts our his hidden feelings of worthlessness by pretending they belong to some other guy.

One is permitted this insanity up to the point that we act it out on other innocent victims. At that point we must be put away were we can do no further harm. Where we should be put is in treatment, but then the rest of us who have not acted our might notice, were any to get better, that maybe there could also be something wrong with us.

To notice that one is actually mentally ill is not flattering for the false ego that we actually think that we are so we prefer to bury our mistakes and relish in the feeling of revenge, vicariously, something close, but legal, like the criminal did.

So we have created a world full of monsters who torture our children to death and then stomp and shout at rituals as we put the ones that break and cross magic lines to death. And this is what we call civilized.

But it beats knowing how bad you feel.
 

Zysoclaplem

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I don't know what the think or believe about things like this.
If someone killed someone I know and loved, would I want this man/woman to die? Yes. For a time. Would it make any difference what so ever? No.
It won't change the world. Will it bring that person back? No.
Why does any reaction to this action matter if you can never have this person back? Why can't you have this person back? Where are they? Why does it hurt to lose someone? Why can't you change things?
The human mind is a very complicated thing. Conflicting thoughts and feeling. With that comes problems.

You know what this man did, and what he would do again, but you still feel sad. Because deep down you know that he/she was a victim of circumstance.
But you can't walk into the future backwards. There is no right or wrong way to feel because there is no universal right or wrong.



 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I think it's okay to feel bad for them. It's hard to imagine how tortured their souls must have been.

I don't feel bad that they were executed. I think that they got what they deserved.

Hopefully, they cried out to their maker before they met their demise.
How can I, someone who has made his fair of mistakes and then some, accurately prescribe what someone truly deserves? If you see fit to have them killed in cold blood, how does that make you any better than what they were in a moment of rage? I cannot logically support the death penalty, because I know that people make mistakes. That applies to criminals, judges, and jurors. I am certainly in no position to cast the first stone, especially when that stone would be fatal.
Excellent point. Furthermore, the death penalty brings us right down to the same barbaric level as the criminals we are executing. Why do you think the rest of the civilized world has abandoned it as a punishment? In a way, the U.S. is just as barbaric as the tribal idiots roaming around the Middle East meting out their bizarre punishments like chopping off the hand of a thief and stoning the adultress woman.