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Is the world going to end this Saturday?

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Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
That article is a steaming pile of crap.

It was to point out that lawsuits are being brought to stop this.

the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN are being sued in federal court over fears that this experiment may in fact destroy the planet.

THAT - is news to me.

And those lawsuits should be thrown out. They are all based around nonsense - higher energy particles collide within Earth's atmosphere everyday and there has yet to be a miniature black hole form. Heck, even if one did, it would have the mass of the colliding particles - so it would do NOTHING. Additionally, suing the DoE in US court won't stop the LHC from coming online as the court has no jurisdiction over the collider.
 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
That article is a steaming pile of crap.

It was to point out that lawsuits are being brought to stop this.

the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN are being sued in federal court over fears that this experiment may in fact destroy the planet.

THAT - is news to me.

And those lawsuits should be thrown out. They are all based around nonsense - higher energy particles collide within Earth's atmosphere everyday and there has yet to be a miniature black hole form. Heck, even if one did, it would have the mass of the colliding particles - so it would do NOTHING. Additionally, suing the DoE in US court won't stop the LHC from coming online as the court has no jurisdiction over the collider.

They are also going after CERN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN
 
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: Deeko
When scanning over topic titles, I thought the summary said "Large Hardon Collision".

I was concerned.

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My prediction: they will flip the switch and nothing will happen.

I agree, this is the most complicated thing ever constructed by humans. Do you really think it will work right the first time?
 
Don't tell John Wiley Price. He will scream racism and demand it create white holes.







Without really knowing what either are....
 
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: Deeko
When scanning over topic titles, I thought the summary said "Large Hardon Collision".

I was concerned.

Text



My prediction: they will flip the switch and nothing will happen.

I agree, this is the most complicated thing ever constructed by humans. Do you really think it will work right the first time?

I have a hard time believing that we're smart enough to build something that will tell us such secrets about the universe. It's a lot easier to believe that we're dumb enough to build something that will make a big boom.
 
Originally posted by: nobody554
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: Deeko
When scanning over topic titles, I thought the summary said "Large Hardon Collision".

I was concerned.

Text



My prediction: they will flip the switch and nothing will happen.

I agree, this is the most complicated thing ever constructed by humans. Do you really think it will work right the first time?

I have a hard time believing that we're smart enough to build something that will tell us such secrets about the universe. It's a lot easier to believe that we're dumb enough to build something that will make a big boom.

Text
 
Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
That article is a steaming pile of crap.

It was to point out that lawsuits are being brought to stop this.

the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN are being sued in federal court over fears that this experiment may in fact destroy the planet.

THAT - is news to me.

And those lawsuits should be thrown out. They are all based around nonsense - higher energy particles collide within Earth's atmosphere everyday and there has yet to be a miniature black hole form. Heck, even if one did, it would have the mass of the colliding particles - so it would do NOTHING. Additionally, suing the DoE in US court won't stop the LHC from coming online as the court has no jurisdiction over the collider.

They are also going after CERN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN

But those nutjobs have only been filing suit in US Courts. CERN is not in the US or under US control.
 
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
If we gotta go though, I much prefer being devoured by a black hole of our own creation. That is SO much more badass than war/plague/famine/pestilence.

If i'm going out, I'm taking the earth with me!

Black hole, baby!
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: udneekgnim
from what I've read, any micro black hole that might be created will disappear practically instantaneously

But of course if you get one that doesn't disappear you're pretty much screwed.

Let's say they smash two protons together and get a black hole. That black hole will have the mass of two protons. Nearby protons wouldn't notice much of a change.


The example I've seen used is this:
The chance of a black hole being created is about the same as winning the lottery every day for three weeks.
But then, it's also possible that dragons will pop out of the LHC when it's powered on - possible from a quantum physics standpoint. I think from that view, anything is possible, such as every proton in Earth decaying at the same time, and it's all about probability. Some things are just really improbable.

The dragon thing would be kinda cool, ala stargate or something.

Got Crowbar? Need to deal with those Vortagons....
 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
That article is a steaming pile of crap.

It was to point out that lawsuits are being brought to stop this.

the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN are being sued in federal court over fears that this experiment may in fact destroy the planet.

THAT - is news to me.

And those lawsuits should be thrown out. They are all based around nonsense - higher energy particles collide within Earth's atmosphere everyday and there has yet to be a miniature black hole form. Heck, even if one did, it would have the mass of the colliding particles - so it would do NOTHING. Additionally, suing the DoE in US court won't stop the LHC from coming online as the court has no jurisdiction over the collider.

They are also going after CERN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN

But those nutjobs have only been filing suit in US Courts. CERN is not in the US or under US control.


BINGO!

Why are you the only one to see this? Do I actually have to say what the text already says. I put it in bold in the original post too.

 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: GooeyGUI
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
That article is a steaming pile of crap.

It was to point out that lawsuits are being brought to stop this.

the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN are being sued in federal court over fears that this experiment may in fact destroy the planet.

THAT - is news to me.

And those lawsuits should be thrown out. They are all based around nonsense - higher energy particles collide within Earth's atmosphere everyday and there has yet to be a miniature black hole form. Heck, even if one did, it would have the mass of the colliding particles - so it would do NOTHING. Additionally, suing the DoE in US court won't stop the LHC from coming online as the court has no jurisdiction over the collider.

They are also going after CERN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN

But those nutjobs have only been filing suit in US Courts. CERN is not in the US or under US control.

Well look at Pirate Bay, they're not in the US nor are they under US control yet somehow, someway, the RIAA and other various copyright outlets seem to find a way to magically file suit against them. Just saying.
 
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Well look at Pirate Bay, they're not in the US nor are they under US control yet somehow, someway, the RIAA and other various copyright outlets seem to find a way to magically file suit against them. Just saying.

Well yeah, but the RIAA and MPAA have contracted out to Satan to work for them, so they've got international powers.

 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: udneekgnim
from what I've read, any micro black hole that might be created will disappear practically instantaneously

But of course if you get one that doesn't disappear you're pretty much screwed.

Let's say they smash two protons together and get a black hole. That black hole will have the mass of two protons. Nearby protons wouldn't notice much of a change.


The example I've seen used is this:
The chance of a black hole being created is about the same as winning the lottery every day for three weeks.
But then, it's also possible that dragons will pop out of the LHC when it's powered on - possible from a quantum physics standpoint. I think from that view, anything is possible, such as every proton in Earth decaying at the same time, and it's all about probability. Some things are just really improbable.

Hence the need for the improbability engine. Fastest way to get around the galaxy
 
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: udneekgnim
from what I've read, any micro black hole that might be created will disappear practically instantaneously

But of course if you get one that doesn't disappear you're pretty much screwed.

but the world isn't supposed to end till 2012 😛

Not to mention a black hole of such infinitesimally small mass would not be self-sustaining...
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Well look at Pirate Bay, they're not in the US nor are they under US control yet somehow, someway, the RIAA and other various copyright outlets seem to find a way to magically file suit against them. Just saying.

Well yeah, but the RIAA and MPAA have contracted out to Satan to work for them, so they've got international powers.

Anyone remember that hoax saying that the CEO of P&G donated to the church of satan or something?

Well, we should make a new hoax. Except it wouldn't be one...
 
i wouldn't mind, as long as it swallowed up europe first, and slowly swallowed the rest of the world. then we could sit back in the US and that island state far south and watch wolf blitzer report about it.
as long as it happens saturday afternoon, i'm cool with it.
 
Saturday is my b-day so I can't think of a better day for the end of the world. 😛
 
FWIW, my money is betting that they don't find the Higgs boson.

'Doomsday' concerns are utterly silly though. Any black hole that would be created would be infinitesimal in both size and duration. Technically speaking, any truly empty space exists as any probability at any time. So electrons and positrons spontaneously emerge and instantly annihilate each other, black holes form and instantly disappear, etc etc. Without any energy, they can't be sustained. It might seem weird at first thought, but if there was nothing there at all, then that empty space wouldn't exist either. So these occurrences are just place-holders, if you will, and scientists are looking for evidence of them.
 
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