Is the California Recall Unconstitutional/Fair?

[brycejones]

The first votes haven't even been counted and larry elder is already claiming voter fraud.

NBC News: As Newsom leads California recall polls, Larry Elder pushes baseless fraud claims.

As Newsom leads California recall polls, Larry Elder pushes baseless fraud claims

A website paid for by Elder's campaign on Monday predicted his defeat and blamed unsubstantiated fraud claims.

www.nbcnews.com

Did someone hit the publish button to early?

 

[Vic]

The first votes haven't even been counted and larry elder is already claiming voter fraud.

NBC News: As Newsom leads California recall polls, Larry Elder pushes baseless fraud claims.

As Newsom leads California recall polls, Larry Elder pushes baseless fraud claims

A website paid for by Elder's campaign on Monday predicted his defeat and blamed unsubstantiated fraud claims.

www.nbcnews.com

The Republican pathway to a single-party state is to declare every vote against them as illegal.

Look at them right now, trying to seize control over a state that even they admit they could never win the majority of the votes.

 

[pmv]

The Republican pathway to a single-party state is to declare every vote against them as illegal.

Look at them right now, trying to seize control over a state that even they admit they could never win the majority of the votes.

Is the game plan that once they get the governorship, by-fair-means-or-foul, they can then segue that into the ability to fix Presidential elections in the state?

It really seems like they are quite open at this point about having entirely given up on democracy.

 

[esquared]

The Republican pathway to a single-party state is to declare every vote against them as illegal.

Look at them right now, trying to seize control over a state that even they admit they could never win the majority of the votes.

Out of the 22M registered voters in CA, only 24% of them are registered repubs.
Dems are 46%+ and Ind are 23%

The only way they win as gov is from recalls such as this.

 

[Vic]

Is the game plan that once they get the governorship, by-fair-means-or-foul, they can then segue that into the ability to fix Presidential elections in the state?

It really seems like they are quite open at this point about having entirely given up on democracy.

These people don't care about democracy. They just want to put you under their boot in the name of their freedom because they can make up reasons why you would do the same to them if you could. It's really no more complicated than that.

 

[Vic]

Out of the 22M registered voters in CA, only 24% of them are registered repubs.
Dems are 46%+ and Ind are 23%

The only way they win as gov is from recalls such as this.

It's gotten to the point where they expect to be able to rule against the consent of the majority of the People.

 

[woolfe9998]

With the polls showing the recall trailing by 16 points, this should be a test of how far republicans will go with this crap. It's one thing to tell these lies when Trump loses a close election. Another when it isn't even close and it's a deep blue state.

I think the democrats need to use this both in 2022 and 2024. They need to strongly portray the GOP as an anti-democracy party. Only 25% of the nation thinks the election was stolen from Trump so it isn't a winning stance for them nationally.

 

[esquared]

With the polls showing the recall trailing by 16 points, this should be a test of how far republicans will go with this crap. It's one thing to tell these lies when Trump loses a close election. Another when it isn't even close and it's a deep blue state.

I think the democrats need to use this both in 2022 and 2024. They need to strongly portray the GOP as an anti-democracy party. Only 25% of the nation thinks the election was stolen from Trump so it isn't a winning stance for them nationally.

It's gotten to the point where they expect to be able to rule against the consent of the majority of the People.

Repubs have not won really anything in Calidf elections. in the past 23 years
There are 7 constitutional offices up for election every 4 years.
Its the Governor, Lt Governor, Sec of State, Controller, Treasurer and Attorney general and Insurance commissioner
Since 1998 there have been 42 positions for elections. 7 offices times 6 elections from 1998 to 2018.
Repubs have won 4 of those 42 offices since 1998
Bill Jones won SoS in 1998
Chuck Quackenbush in 1998 for Ins Commissioner
Arnold for Gov in 2006 and Steve Poizner for Ins Commissioner also in 2006

Repubs haven't won a statewide office of any kind since 2006.
They probably couldn't win dog catcher if there was such a position.

 

[trenchfoot]

The Repubs know the only way for them to have control over the nation is by minority party rule. The changes in demographics aren't pulling in their favor and they know this. Also, the more educated the nation becomes the more of a threat it is to the Repub's efforts at seizing control.

Knowledge and wisdom is the enemy of a party that rely on lies, disinformation, spreading rumors, innuendo, whack job conspiracy theories all while they attempt to dismantle the inner workings of a democracy that is, by sheer numbers and attrition, working against them.

This is exactly the situation the Repubs put themselves in from having their isolationists, racists, theological extremists and regressives take over the party.

The more Biden proves to the nation that it's the Democrats that are promoting the welfare and concerns of the middle class and the poor while the Repub leadership's only concerns are for establishing an autocratic form of gov't, the more radical and anti-democratic that party of theirs will have to become.

It seems inevitable considering the way the Repubs are behaving themselves, distilling themselves further into the realm of becoming outright fascists and religious fanatics.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

If'n we didn't win there musta' bin fraud, cuz'n if'n there weren't no fraud we'd a won.

 

[Leeea]

They probably couldn't win dog catcher if there was such a position.

I live in a somewhat liberal area in CA, and every nearly every single office is held by a democrat. However, the sheriff is republican.

Republicans can win in CA. It just is not easy. It helps if they do not run on the crazy platform.

 

[esquared]

I live in a somewhat liberal area in CA, and every nearly every single office is held by a democrat. However, the sheriff is republican.

Republicans can win in CA. It just is not easy. It helps if they do not run on the crazy platform.

That is true for local elections. I was referring to statewide elections.
There are republican enclaves throughout CA and I am sure that they elect their
mayors, sheriffs , etc.

When R's are outnumbered 2:1 by Dems, anything statewide is almost certain defeat.

 

[sportage]

I still can't believe Arnold was ever elected. Guess it was the celebrity thing...
However, Larry is no celebrity that's for sure.
I know California. I know that they can get anything on the ballot just by gathering signatures in any Von's parking lot. It only takes one weekend...
And despite the California silliness, Californians are not that silly to elect anyone like an Larry Elder.

So this will be interesting when Newsom wins by 80% thus republicans claim all 80% of those democrat ballots were illegally cast. And then what, The Cyber Ninjas ???

 

[VRAMdemon]

Elder entering the race gave the voters in Cali something to vote against. Elder has already given up. Now he’s started a webpage for people to report “election fraud.” He’s nothing more than a mindless POS Trump wannabe. His website is basically a clearing house for all the worst clickbait on the internet. Larry Elder is the electoral equivalent of bullshit clickbait.

 

[hal2kilo]

Out of the 22M registered voters in CA, only 24% of them are registered repubs.
Dems are 46%+ and Ind are 23%

The only way they win as gov is from recalls such as this.

Which is the whole point, although apparently not to the Democrats, of this idiotic California law. You dumb F's have the majority, get rid of this stupid law!

 

[manly]

Out of the 22M registered voters in CA, only 24% of them are registered repubs.
Dems are 46%+ and Ind are 23%

The only way they win as gov is from recalls such as this.

I'm one of those 23% that is registered as "non-partisan" and that decision was made eons ago. Yet I've never entertained voting for a Repug on any meaningful state-wide contest. I might have voted for Abel Maldonado once for Lt. Governor, but I can't quite recall.

My point is I doubt that many of those 23% are actually the coveted "swing voters" that campaigns target. Many of us may be political moderates that don't recognize the GQP in its current form.

Elder entering the race gave the voters in Cali something to vote against. Elder has already given up. Now he’s started a webpage for people to report “election fraud.” He’s nothing more than a mindless POS Trump wannabe. His website is basically a clearing house for all the worst clickbait on the internet. Larry Elder is the electoral equivalent of bullshit clickbait.

I'm sure it won't happen, but it would be hilarious if Kevin Paffrath got more votes on question #2 than Larry Elder does.

 

[MrSquished]

Elder entering the race gave the voters in Cali something to vote against. Elder has already given up. Now he’s started a webpage for people to report “election fraud.” He’s nothing more than a mindless POS Trump wannabe. His website is basically a clearing house for all the worst clickbait on the internet. Larry Elder is the electoral equivalent of bullshit clickbait.

Yep. Elders was a gift. He truly represents the state of the GQP now though, everyone trying to be Trump, the most horrific person they can be.

He was a perfect way to motivate Dem voters. This is why Trump running in 2024 could be good for the Dems for turnout, it's just they have to overcome voter suppression and the GQP openly trying to steal the election.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Sheesh, what a maroon!

Elder Wont Let Voting 'Shenanigans' Keep Him from Gov's Seat: Spokesperson

According to the Associated Press, Ying Ma, a spokeswoman for Elder, said the campaign wants "every proper vote to be counted."

www.newsweek.com

 

[K1052]

And seemingly over

https://twitter.com/x/status/1437977687201562631

 

[Vic]

Early voting results show it's not even close.

 

[gothuevos]

What a colossal waste of money.

 

[K1052]

Early voting results show it's not even close.

GOP is getting totally pantsed at their own party.

 

[ivwshane]

Thank god California didn’t get crazier.

 

[sportage]

Totally no surprise. Seriously, there was no alternative. If only all of America thought as California we’d never had a Trump. Living in paradise can be distracting from reality but not to the extent Republicans we’re counting on.

 

[MrSquished]

When does Trump cry fraud on this if he hasn't already