Is NVIDIA better than ATI now?

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: Budarow
This is the first I've heard of Rollo getting booted. What gives...he's "gone" cause of constant ATI bashing AND constant nVidia praise and/or he was/is a beta tester for nVidia?

Interesting stuff

He was banned for being part of an nVidia marketing group called AEG (and lying about it for some time), according to the AEG website they "payed" respected members of forums with free stuff to praise nVidia. Just search for AEG and click the long thread, I don't want to restart this whole issue again but just for clarification.
AEG

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
less power consumer, Cool, Quite, SLI = Nvidia
IQ , Future game performance , HDr with AA = ATI

LOL. cracks me up people still say stupid ****** like this after all these years since the voodoo1.

"Future game performance".. yea.. we've been there and done that convo about a zillion times on the internet since 1996.

Better buy video card X because it WILL have better "future game performance" (my crystal ball is super clear today)
:disgust:
Toolbag.

The future is already here: Oblivion demonstrates that the X1900 stomps the 7900 GTX OC version (which costs $60 more) while being under a bigger workload. Not only that but who would want SLi's slow AA modes? It would be a complete waste of money to want such an inadequate multicard solution that tanks in performance when subjected to anything greater than 4xAA. So despite any quirks Crossfire may have, I'd take that anyday over a slow SLi solution that can't handle >4xAA. Why buy SLi when a single card can do 4xAA just fine in 99% of the games on the market?


Gotta love the nv shill and fanboy excuses lately:

1. Serious Sam 2 is childish therefore HDR+AA is meaningless. Well yeah it would be childish to a late 40s overweight failure in life.
2. Oblivion uses a different rendering path therefore benchmark results showing nVidia's poor performance are invalid!
3. ATi's architecture is built for shader heavy games, comparing two different architectures in Oblivion is unfair! (but doom 3 is still valid despite it's heavy use of shadows that favors nV).
4. Crossfire sucks because it doesn't have custom profiles and it has teh dongles! (Nevermind the fact that SLi sucks above anything 4xAA therefore making it completley useless as a multicard solution.)
5. 7900 is being sold out at warp speed so the inventory disappears before you even have a chance to see it in stock! ha ha!
6. SM 3.0 and HDR were groundbreaking features when 6800 series was introduced and no serious enthusiast would dare buy an X800 card despite the fact that there was at most maybe 1-2 games that supported HDR+SM 3.0. Now that HDR+AA is possible on ATi cards it's "a useless feature" or "only possible on games a 10 yr old would like". LOL!


Looks like the nVidiots are getting desperate.

Does that 8500 work well on BF2? PS 1.4.. real future proof! What a moron.

Unfortunately for you and your small world, any Oblivion advantage could very well be a short lived affair as the game is updated and as NV drivers progress.

Being fast in Oblivion means one thing: its fast in Oblivion, today.
It has absolutely no relation with being "future proof".

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: Budarow
This is the first I've heard of Rollo getting booted. What gives...he's "gone" cause of constant ATI bashing AND constant nVidia praise and/or he was/is a beta tester for nVidia?

Interesting stuff

He was banned for being part of an nVidia marketing group called AEG (and lying about it for some time), according to the AEG website they "payed" respected members of forums with free stuff to praise nVidia. Just search for AEG and click the long thread, I don't want to restart this whole issue again but just for clarification.
AEG

Thanks for the link. They should ban his IP address. There's no room for crooked SOBs on a respected site like AT.

 

[Cygnus X1]

Nvidia OWNS! and allways will IMHO.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Originally posted by: Budarow
This is the first I've heard of Rollo getting booted. What gives...he's "gone" cause of constant ATI bashing AND constant nVidia praise and/or he was/is a beta tester for nVidia?

Interesting stuff

Yes, Rollo was banned for being a marketing agent for AEG/Nvidia. :thumbsup:

Obviously, Anandtech prefers advertisers who pay for their ads instead of that slimy viral marketing stuff. I am hoping they keep an eye on this character as now he has to walk a fine line.

It's just as bad that 5150joker trolls and has ATI ads in his sig. :thumbsdown:

BTW joker your rebates have expired

 

[Gamingphreek]

Hmm, i still have not found any evidence of AEG people being banned. Where are you getting this information from Joker.

Additionally, Joker, your post has so many fallacies i dont even want to begin to address them all.

-Kevin

 

[BFG10K]

Plenty of people use that posting style (creig and BFG10K come to mind)

My posts aren't anything like Rollos/Angel's. For one thing I'm not an AEG shill.

FalllenAngell is simply Trollo and he thinks he can trick us by putting a bunch of 'L' characters in his new user name.

And he's still pimping the 5800U! Unbelievable.

Does that 8500 work well on BF2?

It works better than it does on a NV25.

 

[BFG10K]

Hmm, i still have not found any evidence of AEG people being banned.

Click.

Typically, we do not get involved in kiddie fights over video cards, but this issue went much further, and was far more reaching than the usual fanboyism. From this point, until further notice, Rollo is no longer a member of these forums. We observed, and at the end of the day, we decided, that in the best interests of the forums, this member had gone too far. The action has been taken, and any further threads on this topic will be immediately locked. The issue is not resolved in it's entirety, as we will still be watching, as well as conducting our own investigations. Consider this thread closed, with further action to follow.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Plenty of people use that posting style (creig and BFG10K come to mind)

My posts aren't anything like Rollos/Angel's. For one thing I'm not an AEG shill.

My comment wasn't to your general posting style I was simply saying that you often use the quoting method where you break a persons quote up into pieces and respond piece by piece.

 

[Gamingphreek]

It works better than it does on a NV25.

That is impossible since the 8500 cannot run BF2 IIRC.

-Kevin

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Guys just to remind you, FalllenAngell=Rollo the banned AEG shill/troll under a new account

Thanks for the tip. I knew he couldn't stay away for long. I mean, he has to earn those videocards after all. :laugh:

The posting style is unmistakable.

LOL...after reading just a couple of Angel's posts...I agree ~95%. Come on mods...ban Rollo's "old" IP address (and Angel's "current" IP addy. Or better yet...limit his IP addy to "off topic" ONLY

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Originally posted by: Budarow
This is the first I've heard of Rollo getting booted. What gives...he's "gone" cause of constant ATI bashing AND constant nVidia praise and/or he was/is a beta tester for nVidia?

Interesting stuff

Yes, Rollo was banned for being a marketing agent for AEG/Nvidia. :thumbsup:

Obviously, Anandtech prefers advertisers who pay for their ads instead of that slimy viral marketing stuff. I am hoping they keep an eye on this character as now he has to walk a fine line.

It's just as bad that 5150joker trolls and has ATI ads in his sig. :thumbsdown:

BTW joker your rebates have expired

LOL this coming from a guy that puts up anti-ATi troll posts and had a picture taking jabs at Crossfire's dongles. Yeah Wreckage, you're really credible... :roll:

 

[Keysplayr]

Wreckage may be a fanboy, but he does have a point Joker. So, does this mean you are both trolls? Or both just very motivated for unknown reasons?
Just noting that you and Wreckage trying to smear each other really isn't necessary.

 

[ginfest]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Wreckage may be a fanboy, but he does have a point Joker. So, does this mean you are both trolls? Or both just very motivated for unknown reasons?
Just noting that you and Wreckage trying to smear each other really isn't necessary.

Glad people here are finally realizing that 5150 has his own agenda
There is a reason that he has been banned from every forum except this.
His BS has been prevalent since the 9700 days and as he himself brags about liking to cause trouble and rub people the wrong way I'm suprised AT hasn't also got rid of him!

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: Budarow
This is the first I've heard of Rollo getting booted. What gives...he's "gone" cause of constant ATI bashing AND constant nVidia praise and/or he was/is a beta tester for nVidia?

Interesting stuff

He was banned for being part of an nVidia marketing group called AEG (and lying about it for some time), according to the AEG website they "payed" respected members of forums with free stuff to praise nVidia. Just search for AEG and click the long thread, I don't want to restart this whole issue again but just for clarification.
AEG

i don't think he wasn't banned for AEG only/specifically. he was banned for making some off-handed comment, which was kinda of like one that "broke the camel's back".. i recall something about jesus and forgiving, and a mod posted "ok, that's enuff".. wasn't even nv/ati related iirc.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Ginfest

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Wreckage may be a fanboy, but he does have a point Joker. So, does this mean you are both trolls? Or both just very motivated for unknown reasons?
Just noting that you and Wreckage trying to smear each other really isn't necessary.

Glad people here are finally realizing that 5150 has his own agenda
There is a reason that he has been banned from every forum except this.
His BS has been prevalent since the 9700 days and as he himself brags about liking to cause trouble and rub people the wrong way I'm suprised AT hasn't also got rid of him!

I have no agenda nor have I been banned from any forum ya tool.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ginfest

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Wreckage may be a fanboy, but he does have a point Joker. So, does this mean you are both trolls? Or both just very motivated for unknown reasons?
Just noting that you and Wreckage trying to smear each other really isn't necessary.

Glad people here are finally realizing that 5150 has his own agenda
There is a reason that he has been banned from every forum except this.
His BS has been prevalent since the 9700 days and as he himself brags about liking to cause trouble and rub people the wrong way I'm suprised AT hasn't also got rid of him!

I have no agenda nor have I been banned from any forum ya tool.

More lies, you were temp banned at Hardforum for being a troll.

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
i don't think he wasn't banned for AEG only/specifically. he was banned for making some off-handed comment, which was kinda of like one that "broke the camel's back".. i recall something about jesus and forgiving, and a mod posted "ok, that's enuff".. wasn't even nv/ati related iirc.

IIRC the comment was something to the nature of "I guess we've established I'm not going to challenge Jesus or ghandi for the turn the other cheek award." (IIRC creig has it in his sig). That netted him a short vacation then the AEG thing was the cause for the ban but again this is just IIRC

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: TheSisko87
It seems that everyone on this forum is pretty crazy about nvidia's graphics cards now. Are they that much better than ati's cards?

ATI has always been crap.. the only good time for them is when Nvidia dropped the ball BIG time with the 5xxx series..
and that was like letting ATI have a free walk to first..

ATI is always a day late and a dollar short on tech.
Nvidia has the market lead and a better product.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
ATI has always been crap.. the only good time for them is when Nvidia dropped the ball BIG time with the 5xxx series..
and that was like letting ATI have a free walk to first..

ATI is always a day late and a dollar short on tech.
Nvidia has the market lead and a better product.

*Pulls up a chair* . . .

 

[moonboy403]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ginfest

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Wreckage may be a fanboy, but he does have a point Joker. So, does this mean you are both trolls? Or both just very motivated for unknown reasons?
Just noting that you and Wreckage trying to smear each other really isn't necessary.

Glad people here are finally realizing that 5150 has his own agenda
There is a reason that he has been banned from every forum except this.
His BS has been prevalent since the 9700 days and as he himself brags about liking to cause trouble and rub people the wrong way I'm suprised AT hasn't also got rid of him!

I have no agenda nor have I been banned from any forum ya tool.

if nvidia's really that bad
then what about the 7900 gt???

now it turns out that it's much faster than the x1800 xt when oced doesn't it?!

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: moonboy403
if nvidia's really that bad
then what about the 7900 gt???

now it turns out that it's much faster than the x1800 xt when oced doesn't it?!

You can OC to beyond GTX speeds which would make it comparable to an X1900XTX

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: moonboy403
if nvidia's really that bad
then what about the 7900 gt???

now it turns out that it's much faster than the x1800 xt when oced doesn't it?!

The 7900GT can OC but so can the X1800XT, their both about equal OCed (unless you choose to do the voltmod) and currently the X1800XT is cheaper.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: TheSisko87
It seems that everyone on this forum is pretty crazy about nvidia's graphics cards now. Are they that much better than ati's cards?

ATI has always been crap.. the only good time for them is when Nvidia dropped the ball BIG time with the 5xxx series..
and that was like letting ATI have a free walk to first..

ATI is always a day late and a dollar short on tech.
Nvidia has the market lead and a better product.

Would you like to explain the reasons behind your position or are you just assuming we all have ESP?

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
i don't think he wasn't banned for AEG only/specifically. he was banned for making some off-handed comment, which was kinda of like one that "broke the camel's back".. i recall something about jesus and forgiving, and a mod posted "ok, that's enuff".. wasn't even nv/ati related iirc.

IIRC the comment was something to the nature of "I guess we've established I'm not going to challenge Jesus or ghandi for the turn the other cheek award." (IIRC creig has it in his sig). That netted him a short vacation then the AEG thing was the cause for the ban but again this is just IIRC

heh... yea, that was the comment

i actually got a good laugh out of that one, but someone took offense and it was insta-ban. not sure if it was temp turned perma, but i never saw him back here after that.