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Is Jeb! Getting Desperate?

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railer

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I find it almost amazing that we're in a position to put forward either a bible thumping nut in Ben Carson, or an all-around nut like Trump, as a potential R candidate in a general election. Jeb Bush, who is not impressive in the least, would get my vote 1000x over either Trump or Carson. I can't believe people might be shallow enough to not vote for Jeb, based on their negative opinion of his brother. What do we know about Trump or Carson's brother? Hillary's brother? What difference does that make? Jeb is probably the worst of the conventional R candidates, but at least he's not crazy.

"I might be a Bush, but I'm not crazy" could be the new "It's the economy, stupid".
 

Jhhnn

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I find it almost amazing that we're in a position to put forward either a bible thumping nut in Ben Carson, or an all-around nut like Trump, as a potential R candidate in a general election. Jeb Bush, who is not impressive in the least, would get my vote 1000x over either Trump or Carson. I can't believe people might be shallow enough to not vote for Jeb, based on their negative opinion of his brother. What do we know about Trump or Carson's brother? Hillary's brother? What difference does that make? Jeb is probably the worst of the conventional R candidates, but at least he's not crazy.

"I might be a Bush, but I'm not crazy" could be the new "It's the economy, stupid".

Jeb's problem is that he's not tossing enough red meat to likely primary voters, not enough raw resentment & emotion. All Repub candidates are further hampered by holding to the same ideology & policy goals of 15 years ago despite what's happened in the intervening years. That includes Trump. Moar Trickledown. Moar wedge issues. Moar Neocon bullying.
 
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I find it almost amazing that we're in a position to put forward either a bible thumping nut in Ben Carson, or an all-around nut like Trump, as a potential R candidate in a general election. Jeb Bush, who is not impressive in the least, would get my vote 1000x over either Trump or Carson. I can't believe people might be shallow enough to not vote for Jeb, based on their negative opinion of his brother. What do we know about Trump or Carson's brother? Hillary's brother? What difference does that make? Jeb is probably the worst of the conventional R candidates, but at least he's not crazy.

"I might be a Bush, but I'm not crazy" could be the new "It's the economy, stupid".

Problem with Jeb! is he speaks about the same stuff as his brother, won't admit any mistakes his brother made and has many of same advisors as his brother.
 

Brian Stirling

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Problem with Jeb! is he speaks about the same stuff as his brother, won't admit any mistakes his brother made and has many of same advisors as his brother.


And this is the biggest problem they have ... the same folks that brought us the mission accomplished in Iraq latched onto Jeb early on and obviously with the hopes of riding that idiot to the White House and getting to extend there insanity in Iran. The neocons that latched onto Jeb are now panicking as I don't know that they have a backup puppet if Jeb fails them.


Brian
 

Jhhnn

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And this is the biggest problem they have ... the same folks that brought us the mission accomplished in Iraq latched onto Jeb early on and obviously with the hopes of riding that idiot to the White House and getting to extend there insanity in Iran. The neocons that latched onto Jeb are now panicking as I don't know that they have a backup puppet if Jeb fails them.


Brian

They have Rubio if they need him.
 

phillyTIM

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Jeb's time is OVER, and before it even began. GWB killed it for him, and any stragglers to the 'Bush dynasty' axis-of-evil.
 

Sonikku

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More like an axis of stupid. Bush always struck me as someone who genuinely wanted his fellow Americans to succeed even if he had no earthly idea on how to do it. The only one on his team I think could be classified as evil was Dick C.
 

Hugo Drax

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More like an axis of stupid. Bush always struck me as someone who genuinely wanted his fellow Americans to succeed even if he had no earthly idea on how to do it. The only one on his team I think could be classified as evil was Dick C.

GWBush is the alcoholic dilettante of the family. He was put in as a puppet, and Cheney and crew did all the work and they would just put the papers in front of Dubya so he can mark the x on the signature line.
 

phillyTIM

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GWBush is the alcoholic dilettante of the family. He was put in as a puppet, and Cheney and crew did all the work and they would just put the papers in front of Dubya so he can mark the x on the signature line.

TRUTH, right there.

But I stand by the trio of Bushs being the 'axis of evil', as they drag all their warhawks with them; and yes, I believe Wolfowitz, Baker, and the like were being tapped for the possible Bush III administration.

Call it what you will - the Bush Axis of Evil - the Bush Junta - whatever. That's what it is, and all the above!
 
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Thump553

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Jeb's campaign is like Fred Thompson in 2008 all over again. Before he declared everyone (especially the media) were assuming he'd be a shoo-in for at least the nomination, if not the Presidency. By the time he announces his popularity is sky high, but drops in a steady decline when the voters decide they don't really like him.

It may be too soon to write Jeb off, but if he is shilling reverse mortgages in a year, well I told you so.