Is Jeb! Getting Desperate?

[Bitek]

I'm not so sure ¡Jerb! is the smart Bush.

This family just needs to go away

 

[nickqt]

I'm not so sure ¡Jerb! is the smart Bush.

This family just needs to go away

I'm fairily certain that Jeb is smarter than W., but I don't think Jeb really wants it. It's just his turn as Lord Protector, so here he is.

 

[bradley]

It could have easily been avoided, there was ample warning.

Not to mention the second plane (Flight 175 @ 590mph) hit Tower 2 exactly 16.5 minutes later and no planes were scrambling with plenty of military bases in the area.

As for Marco Rubio, whomever the media establishment tries to prop up in opposition, we always have the ultimate truth. In politics name recognition is king, most voters have little knowledge about the actual issues. After this country was trolled by progressives and conservatives for decades, it also never gets tiresome watching Trump troll these trolls. And I can only imagine the exponential butthurt and enjoyment with him as President.

 

[trenchfoot]

And that's better than the democratic candidate how?

I'm surprised that you've asked that question, or haven't you been watching the Repub and Dem debates? That right there says everything you should know about what I've posted. Repubs went after each other whereas the Dems went after the issues.

(although if you're referring to Hillary, well, she's close to what the Repubs have to offer but with that "D" next to her name, she's going to have to at least throw some crumbs at the middle class and the poor rather than giving them a lot of hot air and false promises like the Repub candidates do.)

 

[ultimatebob]

The bottom line....

How many of those Google searchers will actually vote for the guy, though? I've done a few searches myself just because I was curious what crazy thing he's saying today, but I sure as hell wouldn't vote for him!

 

[chowderhead]

I'm fairily certain that Jeb is smarter than W., but I don't think Jeb really wants it. It's just his turn as Lord Protector, so here he is.

the media says that but Jeb! has proven time and time again that is a very very low bar.

This is at a townhall meeting whose location (McAuliffe-Shepard Discovery Center) was commemorating someone that died in the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. Jeb! here says he will never forget ... the other shuttle disaster (Columbia) but then proceeds to name multiple years except the actual year the disaster happened (2003). The shuttle took off from Kennedy and Jeb! was governor of Florida at the time. Jeb! finally settled for in the 2000s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfkYfPNckIM

Jeb! is a complete disaster. Opps!

 

[bradley]

How many of those Google searchers will actually vote for the guy, though? I've done a few searches myself just because I was curious what crazy thing he's saying today, but I sure as hell wouldn't vote for him!

I believe the single most important variable to voters is either party affiliation or name recognition over any actual substantive issues. I'm just saying that the establishment and media have used their agenda with successful attempts to contain the dialog and facts for decades. Yet the truth can now be found outside of those traditional means and laughably doesn't show people clamoring for a Jeb Bush, Ben Carson or Carly Fiorina. Mr. Trump's nomination (or run in some other capacity) is inevitable, barring some sort of catastrophe.... natural or man-made.

he Establishment Thinks the Unthinkable: Trump Could Win the Nomination
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-thinks-trump-could-win?target=topic&tid=1707

 

[ultimatebob]

I believe the single most important variable to voters is either party affiliation or name recognition over any actual substantive issues. I'm just saying that the establishment and media have used their agenda with successful attempts to contain the dialog and facts for decades. Yet the truth can now be found outside of those traditional means and laughably doesn't show people clamoring for a Jeb Bush, Ben Carson or Carly Fiorina. Mr. Trump's nomination (or run in some other capacity) is inevitable, barring some sort of catastrophe.... natural or man-made.

he Establishment Thinks the Unthinkable: Trump Could Win the Nomination
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-thinks-trump-could-win?target=topic&tid=1707

Never underestimate the power of negative attack ads on gullible voters, though. Trump has given his GOP rivals enough source material over the years for SEVERAL campaign seasons full of attack ads.

 

[Bitek]

the media says that but Jeb! has proven time and time again that is a very very low bar.

This is at a townhall meeting whose location (McAuliffe-Shepard Discovery Center) was commemorating someone that died in the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. Jeb! here says he will never forget ... the other shuttle disaster (Columbia) but then proceeds to name multiple years except the actual year the disaster happened (2003). The shuttle took off from Kennedy and Jeb! was governor of Florida at the time. Jeb! finally settled for in the 2000s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfkYfPNckIM

Jeb! is a complete disaster. Opps!

Hey be fair. He said he would never forget the day, Thursday. The year? Hmmm.

Like, sometime around when his brother was wasting trillions invading the wrong country and getting thousands killed, but before his brother destroyed the economy and wasted trillions bailing out wall street. Who knows, it was a crazy time.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Uh oh, time for a family meeting:
http://politicalwire.com/2015/10/23/bush-to-hunker-down-with-family-to-assess-bid/

Jeb Bush “will attend a finance meeting this weekend in Houston convened by former President George H. W. Bush and attended by Bush’s brother, former President George W. Bush,” CBS News has learned.

“The session, designed to assess where Bush’s candidacy stands in the face of large-scale staff cutbacks and underwhelming poll numbers, will also be attended by Bush’s mother, Barbara Bush. The governor’s campaign confirmed the meeting will be held Sunday and Monday.”

And just to get it in the right thread:
Jeb's Campaign Downsizes Staff At HQ And Cuts Payroll By 40 Percent

 

[feralkid]

No one cares about Bush

Homo.

Careful. Your pun on Bush was reported as a homophobic slur.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Brian Stirling]

While it's still early Jeb has not shown any signs of life in months and appears to be flat-lining. In the early summer he was all but officially the nominee, but time has not been kind to the Jebster.

Early on it looked like we were going to have a choice between another Bush or another Clinton but now that Bush has pretty much disappeared we're still left with Clinton -- I do not want another Bush nor another Clinton!


Brian

 

[sportage]

I have a prediction.
I now believe Jeb Bush "WILL" win IOwa, and several states after that. And will win the republican grand prize.
Why?
Despite the polls, and Carson, and Iowa, and Trump, and all the craziness, I predict a huge upset in IOwa where Jeb will come out the winner over the others.
And yes, this will be HUGE. A huge shock to the media and everyone paying attention.

With Hillary having done so well during and after that Benghazi hearing, and with Hillary appearing so presidential during and after that hearing. And her bringing THE REAL WORLD back to 2016 presidential politics, I believe the republicans will re-access their clown car and realize while Donald is very entertaining and Carson is just some long-shot outsider, republicans will realize if they seriously hope for a shot at the presidency, Jeb is the only hope.
Their only obi wan kenobi in the game.

When Iowa rolls around, despite the polls or trump or Carson, reality will kick in and Jeb will come out the winner.
Just as Jeb expected from the beginning, and just as the republican establishment expected from the beginning.

After Hillary's performance, Teflon Hillary, republicans must eventually realize Jeb is the only guy that can challenge Hillary one on one.
Not Trump, never Carson, not Carly, not Rubio, certainly not Christie, but only Jeb.

And I predict republicans will finally wake up to reality, come Iowa.
Yes, Everyone will be caught off guard and in total shock with a Jeb win.
But if republicans really want a shot at the presidency, sadly enough the old established establishment career politicians once again will be the only option.

Burnie, Donald, Carson, Carly, they were fun while they lasted.
But at some point republicans, and democrats too have to ask themselves, is this only a game or is this for real?
Only Hillary and Jeb can pull this off.
This must be a full head on, one to one, Hillary vs Jeb competition.
Any party that believes differently or dare chooses differently their party pallbearer from outside the establishment will be doomed to lose.
I predict that risk of losing neither party will gamble.

Iowa is weird and could do religious fundamentalist... again.
For Iowans, a lesson is hard to learn.
Iowa often repeat the same stupid mistake over and over.
Trump is correct, it is the pollution in their water. Or the cow poop.
But after Iowa, it will be all Jeb.

And true.... This WILL hurt voter turnout big time on both sides come election day 2016.
Establishment republican vs establishment democrat.
And we will once again have a minority of registered voters electing our next president, just as with most every past election.
Sorry kids. Bad news ahead. Forget the revolution. Nada goin happen this time either....
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[Jhhnn]

While it's still early Jeb has not shown any signs of life in months and appears to be flat-lining. In the early summer he was all but officially the nominee, but time has not been kind to the Jebster.

Early on it looked like we were going to have a choice between another Bush or another Clinton but now that Bush has pretty much disappeared we're still left with Clinton -- I do not want another Bush nor another Clinton!


Brian

Don't want another Clinton? Who do you want instead? Colbert's Rick Parry?

 

[Sonikku]

Their only obi wan kenobi in the game.
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The kind of guy that's blind to the snowballing threats to our democracy while simultaneously engaging in pointless wars.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Don't want another Clinton? Who do you want instead? Colbert's Rick Parry?

The choices are not great this time as it is most times. There is some things I like about Bernie but some things I don't and being a self labeled socialist means he has zero chance of winning the general even if by some magic he managed to win the nomination. There is absolutely no one on the Republican slate that I'd ever vote for so that leaves me with ... why can't they add "none of the above" as an option on the ballot?


Brian

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Bad and worse isn't a pleasant choice but it is a clear one.

 

[Bitek]

I saw a report that said, IIRC that Jeb! is spending money like crazy. He spends 85% of what comes in in donations. I personally saw four ads on Fox news in a half hour.

So he is a Bush then!

He is circling the drain with little promise of catching fire.
Rubio must be giddy

 

[MongGrel]

I'm fairily certain that Jeb is smarter than W., but I don't think Jeb really wants it. It's just his turn as Lord Protector, so here he is.

I'd have to say that is a pretty accurate statement, IMHO.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm fairily certain that Jeb is smarter than W., but I don't think Jeb really wants it. It's just his turn as Lord Protector, so here he is.

Same here from the beginning he's said its time for some else. I feel he's running because so many asked him and he was expected to run but his heart isn't in this game.

 

[soundforbjt]

I think the family meeting will be the beginning of the end. It's got to be humiliating to be getting thrashed by Trump. My guess is he'll drop out after New Hampshire if not before.

Trump got it right, Jeb! has no fire.

 

[sontakke]

"Super Girl is hot" :- Jeb! She could be his grand daugther.

 

[LegendKiller]

He offers nothing but the usual establishment lies and false promises supported by the .01%.

I agree - must be super embarassing to get utterly stomped by Trump at every turn. First by trashing his pro-amnesty position repeatedly, then trashing his family, whom Bush is forced to defend which then makes him look weak, pathetic, and shackled to a war that was idiotic.

Then to have Trump be so centrist in his beliefs but still have the Core lean towards him.

This is the Bushes and the establishment reaping what they sow. Had they been intellectually honest with the Core they'd be in a much better spot.

 

[theeedude]

I agree with sportage, Jeb! is going to be the Republican nominee. Even though he is not any less crazy than the other ones, a founder of Neoconservatism and a trickle down believer, he carries himself like a sane "electable" person. He's like Romney in 2012. The guy no one in the GOP rank and file wants, but everyone settles for because they hate Hillary. GOP is a grievance driven party, so you have to ask not who they love, but who they hate.

 

[LegendKiller]

I agree with sportage, Jeb! is going to be the Republican nominee. Even though he is not any less crazy than the other ones, a founder of Neoconservatism and a trickle down believer, he carries himself like a sane "electable" person. He's like Romney in 2012. The guy no one in the GOP rank and file wants, but everyone settles for because they hate Hillary. GOP is a grievance driven party, so you have to ask not who they love, but who they hate.

I don't really agree. The overwhelming majority of the right disagrees with jeb on fundamental stances that have taken center stage. At this point I think it is more likely (but not certain) we see a genuine outsider.